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Post by Pounce de León on Sept 27, 2018 15:29:11 GMT
What I mean to say is that I don't want people to just outright hate me or bash me for sharing an opinion on Star Wars that aligns with them. What I probably should have said was this: "If you got a problem with any of my personal thoughts here, that's fine. But do not treat me like I'm in the wrong. This is my Star Wars and this is how I feel about it!" Why would I hate you? People eat terrible shit at McDo. Do I hate them? I don't really care.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 27, 2018 16:00:12 GMT
Hate is a pretty strong word for the sock-puppet of a person we present ourselves as on the web. I certainly know some of the users and have a distaste for their content. However, I still manage to find posts by every one of my grand antagonists on this forum, that I unhesitatingly hit the "like" button on their "good" posts. I am positive I have like several N7Pathfinder posts, and don't hate you at all. Hyperbole is the lifeblood of the internet.
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Post by mybudgee on Sept 27, 2018 16:50:39 GMT
*Reads last handful of posts*![](https://media.giphy.com/media/yrjFgHpvIxZ1S/giphy.gif)
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 27, 2018 17:10:48 GMT
*Reads last handful of posts*![](https://media.giphy.com/media/yrjFgHpvIxZ1S/giphy.gif) ![](https://i.imgflip.com/w6048.jpg)
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Post by mybudgee on Sept 27, 2018 17:18:01 GMT
Steve Harvey needs to star in the next anthology movie
The Harvey Returns: a Star Wars story
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 17:25:49 GMT
It's people like you guys that make me hate being a Star Wars fan. Well, since I'm officially (technically the second time, but whatever) denouncing myself as a Star Wars fan I'm finally allowed to say things like this: - A New Hope is overrated - Empire is not perfect - Return is the worst of the original trilogy - Phantom Menace is hugely underrated - Attack of the Clones is the worst of them all - Revenge of the Sith is worse than Phantom Menace - Force Awakens is my personal favorite (at number 2 of my rankings) - Rogue One is great but not something I will remember fondly for the rest of my life - The Last Jedi gets too much hate and is not as bad as people say to be - Solo is what Rogue One should have been like If you got a problem with any of my personal thoughts here, I don't care! This is my Star Wars, and I will enjoy it however I want! Im gönna say this again.
Whether yöu like sömething is subjective.
Whether ör nöt it is goöd is öbjective.
Nö öne cares what yöu actually like. It is when yöu say that the mövies are just as goöd as the öthers is the pröblem we have. If yöu said that yöu persönally enjöyed them just as much as the öther films that is fine. But saying they are just as goöd is nöt fine.
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Post by mybudgee on Sept 27, 2018 18:29:45 GMT
I miss the good ol' days, when the Vong were the biggest debate Star Wars had... ![:nupe:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/EPlwuDsjU0uMQykfdUHf.gif)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 21:48:24 GMT
::Reads the last few pages:: ![:facepalm:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/LnUBktUNmyIRZJVJhGSZ.png)
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Sept 27, 2018 21:48:39 GMT
It's people like you guys that make me hate being a Star Wars fan. Well, since I'm officially (technically the second time, but whatever) denouncing myself as a Star Wars fan I'm finally allowed to say things like this: - A New Hope is overrated - Empire is not perfect - Return is the worst of the original trilogy - Phantom Menace is hugely underrated - Attack of the Clones is the worst of them all - Revenge of the Sith is worse than Phantom Menace - Force Awakens is my personal favorite (at number 2 of my rankings) - Rogue One is great but not something I will remember fondly for the rest of my life - The Last Jedi gets too much hate and is not as bad as people say to be - Solo is what Rogue One should have been like If you got a problem with any of my personal thoughts here, I don't care! This is my Star Wars, and I will enjoy it however I want! Im gönna say this again.
Whether yöu like sömething is subjective.
Whether ör nöt it is goöd is öbjective.
Nö öne cares what yöu actually like. It is when yöu say that the mövies are just as goöd as the öthers is the pröblem we have. If yöu said that yöu persönally enjöyed them just as much as the öther films that is fine. But saying they are just as goöd is nöt fine.
I WAS going to do a very long convoluted response to this with evidence and charts and links and whatnot... BUT I've decided to spare my dignity by saying this: Objectively good movies DO. NOT. EXIST.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 27, 2018 21:56:30 GMT
Objectively good movies DO. NOT. EXIST. ![](https://i.giphy.com/media/wSQjFZvwowZdC/giphy.webp)
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Sept 27, 2018 21:57:22 GMT
Objectively good movies DO. NOT. EXIST. ![](https://i.giphy.com/media/wSQjFZvwowZdC/giphy.webp) Name one.
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Post by House Targaryen on Sept 27, 2018 22:23:20 GMT
I miss the good ol' days, when the Vong were the biggest debate Star Wars had... ![:nupe:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/EPlwuDsjU0uMQykfdUHf.gif) No. That killed it for me with the extended series.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 27, 2018 22:47:44 GMT
Ice Pirates. It has everything! Comedy, time travel, robots, hot chicks, sci-fi, monsters, and even Buck Rogers/ Han Solo archetype played by Spencer for Hire's Robert Urich. 10/10, flawless and objectively perfect. Fite me irl if you differ at all.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Sept 27, 2018 23:18:33 GMT
Ice Pirates. It has everything! Comedy, time travel, robots, hot chicks, sci-fi, monsters, and even Buck Rogers/ Han Solo archetype played by Spencer for Hire's Robert Urich. 10/10, flawless and objectively perfect. Fite me irl if you differ at all. Has a 49% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, 5.7/10 on iMDB user rating, 4.4/5 stars on Amazon user reviews. So no. Not objectively good.
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Post by HK90210 on Sept 27, 2018 23:43:26 GMT
Ice Pirates. It has everything! Comedy, time travel, robots, hot chicks, sci-fi, monsters, and even Buck Rogers/ Han Solo archetype played by Spencer for Hire's Robert Urich. 10/10, flawless and objectively perfect. Fite me irl if you differ at all. Has a 49% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, 5.7/10 on iMDB user rating, 4.4/5 stars on Amazon user reviews. So no. Not objectively good. I think your sarcasm detector is broken. ![](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/4/4b/Sarcasm_Detector.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/350?cb=20150903211302)
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 27, 2018 23:47:38 GMT
Ice Pirates. It has everything! Comedy, time travel, robots, hot chicks, sci-fi, monsters, and even Buck Rogers/ Han Solo archetype played by Spencer for Hire's Robert Urich. 10/10, flawless and objectively perfect. Fite me irl if you differ at all. Has a 49% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, 5.7/10 on iMDB user rating, 4.4/5 stars on Amazon user reviews. So no. Not objectively good. Le sigh, mon frer. It is objectively the worst movie ever, and yet it is awesome. I don't disagree with your point. There is no accounting for taste. To a degree my friend @snaggletooth is also correct - some movies really are objectively bad, regardless of how subjectively some people love them. TFA/TLJ fall into this category, as does Indiana LeBeouf, NuGhostbusters, etc. For me subjectively, this is the "Tryhard Pants Fail" category. They miss their marks regarding originality and character development while achieving forced propagandizing and torch-passing.
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Post by Hier0phant on Sept 28, 2018 1:59:36 GMT
Schindler's List, Roots, and Mysterious Skin. ![](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/187/asdgagdsgg.gif)
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Sept 28, 2018 2:07:27 GMT
Has a 49% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, 5.7/10 on IMDb user rating, 4.4/5 stars on Amazon user reviews. So no. Not objectively good. Le sigh, mon frer. It is objectively the worst movie ever, and yet it is awesome. I don't disagree with your point. There is no accounting for taste. To a degree my friend @snaggletooth is also correct - some movies really are objectively bad, regardless of how subjectively some people love them. TFA/TLJ fall into this category, as does Indiana LeBeouf, NuGhostbusters, etc. For me subjectively, this is the "Tryhard Pants Fail" category. They miss their marks regarding originality and character development while achieving forced propagandizing and torch-passing. Let me make something clear, I am aware that a movie can be objectively bad, be it through technical errors that destroy the experience, or a script that either infuriates or leaves you bored. The point I was trying to make is that there is no such thing as a movie that can be OBJECTIVELY good. Also, this whole "Tryhard Pants Fail" category is pretty interesting to think about. It's very hard to recapture what made the original movies so special, especially when you consider former actors, writers, or directors either not available to work on it, or not interested in it. That doesn't necessarily mean we can't allow new talent to take the reins and see if they can do something good with it. But with all that said, sometimes people tend to place the failure of a product on the wrong aspects. I didn't like Indiana Jones 4 because it had Shia LeBeouf, but instead because it was too gimmicky and the alien twist at the end was very out of place. I don't like the New Ghostbusters movie because the cast is female, but instead because the movie was unfunny and had glaring plot holes in it. TFA and TLJ I feel are more of a case of good ideas in weak scripts. I'm sure if a different director was brought in, or more time was spent in the writing room or editing room, we would have gotten a better movie that utilized these ideas better. If less time was spent on Canto Bight, we probably would have gotten a better-written conflict between Poe and Holdo without making Poe look like an idiot. Or heck, maybe those cut scenes would have allowed for more time focused on Rey and Luke and properly getting to know why Luke was the way he was presented. If we cut out the Rathtar scene in TFA, we could have spent more time with Rey and properly get to know what she's capable of without having her suddenly do something out of nowhere. However, I would not hate TFA and TLJ for the inclusion of more female characters with bigger roles. It's too narrowminded and discredits some of the legitimately good ideas that could have worked in a better script. Also, originality does not automatically equal good. The Prequel Trilogy tried original ideas and ended up pretty bad. Basically, it's like if you were told to just make a grilled cheese sandwich, but you decide to add originality by adding chocolate syrup, soy sauce, and popcorn on it. Yeah, it's original, but it's also disgusting! That said, I would have appreciated it if TFA took bigger risks to make it stand out as its own thing, but I had a fun time with it so I wasn't disappointed. As for the character development in TLJ, I would have appreciated better if certain parts were cut in favor of more proper development, but I thought with what we got, it was passable in my opinion. I guess the short and sweet reviews I can give these movies are the following. TFA: "Awesome but could have used more originality." TLJ: "Awesome, except for the parts where it wasn't." EDIT: Also, a couple of my rules that apply here. THE WORST THING SOMETHING CAN BE IS BORING and THE WORST ATTENTION IS NO ATTENTION.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Sept 28, 2018 3:10:44 GMT
Schindler's List, Roots, and Mysterious Skin. Schindler's List: 97% Audience Score on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.9/10 User Score on IMDb, and 5/5 stars on Amazon. Roots: (This doesn't really count because it was a TV mini-series, not a movie. I'm also assuming this is the original, not the remake) 71% Audience Score on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.4/10 User Score on IMDb, and 4.6/5 stars on Amazon. Mysterious Skin: 89% Audience Score on Rotten Tomatoes, 7.7/10 on IMDb, and 4.2/5 Stars on Amazon. It's definitely closer, but still not objectively good. TO EVERYBODY ELSE: Keep these coming! This is fun!
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Post by Hier0phant on Sept 28, 2018 4:49:40 GMT
Schindler's List, Roots, and Mysterious Skin. Schindler's List: 97% Audience Score on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.9/10 User Score on IMDb, and 5/5 stars on Amazon. Roots: (This doesn't really count because it was a TV mini-series, not a movie. I'm also assuming this is the original, not the remake) 71% Audience Score on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.4/10 User Score on IMDb, and 4.6/5 stars on Amazon. Mysterious Skin: 89% Audience Score on Rotten Tomatoes, 7.7/10 on IMDb, and 4.2/5 Stars on Amazon. It's definitely closer, but still not objectively good. TO EVERYBODY ELSE: Keep these coming! This is fun! Bigot?!
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Sept 28, 2018 5:47:49 GMT
The Shawshank Redemption is objectively good..... That's all.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Sept 28, 2018 7:14:18 GMT
Objectively good movies
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Post by mybudgee on Sept 28, 2018 7:18:53 GMT
Schindler's List, Roots, and Mysterious Skin. % Audience Score on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.9/10 User Score on IMDb, and 5/5 stars on Amazon. 71% Audience Score on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.4/10 User Score on IMDb, and 4.6/5 stars on Amazon. Mysterious Skin: 89% Audience Score on Rotten Tomatoes, 7.7/10 on IMDb, and 4.2/5 Stars on Amazon. It's definitely closer, but still not objectively good. TO EVERYBODY ELSE: Keep these coming! This is fun! Not for some of us What's so fun about watching someone regurgitate rotten tomatoes percentages & act like it's some kind of profound TED talkor some shit? We all have access to the internet
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