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Post by haolyn on Jul 6, 2017 5:58:50 GMT
Well personally I found him extremely charming and flirting with him felt more natural than the awkwardness of every other flirt interaction I tried. It felt like the voice actors had actual chemistry and played off each other very well. Plus I love how romancing him integrates with the Kadara narrative. My Ryder was also the professional/noble type who would absolutely fall for the bad boy. Overall I find his romance a much more interesting story than the sweet, straightforward, happy ending outcome other romances offered.
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Post by voltangclan on Jul 6, 2017 6:00:13 GMT
Reyes doesn't have horrible psoriasis on his face like Slain so he wins. Plus, he has torture chambers. A man with torture chambers is always a good friend to have.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 6, 2017 6:02:56 GMT
Jaal is my canon romance only because Reyes' romance was lacking. He could have been the Solas of MEA or even Zevran. Not sure if they fixed this but some of his dialogue was bugged last I checked in on that guy after his snipe-y showdown. He'd talk as if there was still issues with Sloane even though she was probably floating in a blue puddle somewhere.
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Post by tacsear on Jul 6, 2017 6:07:37 GMT
No, I would prefer more races, more stories, more music (a lot), a better antagonist, new characters, better writing, better side quests, and etc. That could all come as DLC or some patch. I can't understand this endless obsession with romances. The desire for romance are a part of the reason of this games unsuccessfulness (is that a word). All of the BW characters feel like their stories were written completely and that their romances were included. In mea character stories seems to have built after the romances
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 6, 2017 6:25:42 GMT
Well personally I found him extremely charming and flirting with him felt more natural than the awkwardness of every other flirt interaction I tried. It felt like the voice actors had actual chemistry and played off each other very well. Plus I love how romancing him integrates with the Kadara narrative. My Ryder was also the professional/noble type who would absolutely fall for the bad boy. Overall I find his romance a much more interesting story than the sweet, straightforward, happy ending outcome other romances offered. I was disappointed that it wasn't like Dorian where I can have my Ryder freely flirt with him and not have it automatically go into relationship trajectory (but then this is Mass Effect so I guess only have myself to blame). Plus, punching him to pretend he's feeling ill amused me more than the kiss bit when he stole that centuries old booze.
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Post by Dr Pepper on Jul 6, 2017 6:31:26 GMT
I'm just saying, a DLC set in Kadara would be great in my opinion.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 6, 2017 6:34:15 GMT
I'm just saying, a DLC set in Kadara would be great in my opinion. Well it provides the most opportunity for the most colorful shenanigans, since there's scum and villainy of all sorts lurking about there. Heck I'd give my vintage heat sink just to be able to shoot one of the two looters, then loot that looter's miserable corpse, then injure the second looter, loot him while he's writhing in pain, then shoot him too.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 6, 2017 6:36:49 GMT
Omega's problem was that it was more just a shooting gallery that you couldn't revisit, when really it would have been the perfect opportunity to reintroduce a second hub.
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Post by haolyn on Jul 6, 2017 6:39:12 GMT
I'm just saying, a DLC set in Kadara would be great in my opinion. Like Omega? Speaking of which, I'd love to see Kadara at night! I'd love to see more of Kadara port and the slums in general, and expand on the consequences of choosing the leader and activating the vault.
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Post by Dr Pepper on Jul 6, 2017 6:49:14 GMT
I'm just saying, a DLC set in Kadara would be great in my opinion. Well it provides the most opportunity for the most colorful shenanigans, since there's scum and villainy of all sorts lurking about there. Heck I'd give my vintage heat sink just to be able to shoot one of the two looters, then loot that looter's miserable corpse, than injure the second looter, loot him while he's writhing in pain, then shoot him too. Absolutely, seems like a fun concept.
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Post by warrior on Jul 6, 2017 6:53:25 GMT
I'm just saying, a DLC set in Kadara would be great in my opinion. Well it provides the most opportunity for the most colorful shenanigans, since there's scum and villainy of all sorts lurking about there. Heck I'd give my vintage heat sink just to be able to shoot one of the two looters, then loot that looter's miserable corpse, than injure the second looter, loot him while he's writhing in pain, then shoot him too.+1
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jul 6, 2017 6:57:14 GMT
Welcome to the BSN. There's a character subforum where you'll find other wierdo's like you. Seriously, I never got it with this guy. Why is everyone so in love with him? he is kinda a Han solo type as far as i am i the game. I like him too. He is not a good person as it seems but he has his charm as a character. He is memorable.
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Post by zaeedisking on Jul 6, 2017 7:11:07 GMT
I thought he looked liked one of the presets. I've probably had too much to drink though.
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Post by dirtrider00 on Jul 6, 2017 7:56:14 GMT
Reyes must be a love/hate character. For me and the friends I have that played MEA his arc felt to forced and in your face. Not one I have any desire to pursue in a dlc or another MEA.
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Post by PillarBiter on Jul 6, 2017 8:35:29 GMT
Does anyone else want more Reyes Vidal? I sure as hell do. Not to break your heart, but reyes is a conniving piece of shit charmer who is only out for power and will use anything (or anyone: a.k.a. you) in his quest for egomaniacal power. In my first playthrough I went with sloane kelly. And I kinda felt bad for it because on the surface, she seems like the jackass and reyes seems like a good guy. So In my second oplaythorough I really focused on the dialogue with both reyes and sloane. And you know what stuck? Right from the get-go: 2 things. 1) On your first meeting, Reyes makes YOU pay for the drinks. I mean, WTF? He orders them and offers it to me, and then makes ME pay for it and when I call him out on it, he just winks at me. How much more of a jackass can you be? 1B) Also, in his final scene, he basically says he always wanted power. And he will stop at nothing to obtain it, use event he most foul methods (seriously, sniping sloane while distracting her? How lame). And his actions show just that. He uses everything and everyone (even the roekaar) he can just for the sake of power, not even to help others or to be able to do more good. Just. For power. 2) Sloane is like an unfriendly person, but at least she's honest and shows no signs of being unjust. Sure, she is hard, but let's not forget she is basically running an outfit of runaway outcasts who have very little resources. As a leader, she NEEDS to be hard. If not, if she shows weakness, some lesser being may overthrow her. But no scene shows her to be dishonest. 2B) Besides, she is in it to help people. In one of her initial chats, she says she hated the side switching which Tann did during the revolt, and all Sloane wanted (why she joined the revolution) was to prevent unnecessary bloodshed. She. Actually. Cares. about her people. So that's why I'll choose Sloane every time. She's a cunt, sure, but I'd trust her to watch my back. Reyes? Wouldn't trust him with 50 credits even if my life depended on it.
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Post by kharsis on Jul 6, 2017 8:56:54 GMT
I just found Reyes came across as an absolute sleaze bag.
I would love a DLC where i can finish that piece of scum for good, instead of shooting him with a wimpy pistol that my character was not even carrying at that stage of the game (Black Widow, Ket Assault Rifle, Dhan with seeking plasma mod)
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jul 6, 2017 9:15:16 GMT
Reyes must be a love/hate character. For me and the friends I have that played MEA his arc felt to forced and in your face. Not one I have any desire to pursue in a dlc or another MEA. it is forced but this is not a bad thing. Besides you have a choice. you do not have to like him. In all mediums and games something is forced.
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Post by Monica21 on Jul 6, 2017 11:07:43 GMT
Chiming in along with those who really like the Kadara arc and Reyes in particular. Love him or hate him, he's certainly memorable.
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Post by tehprincessj on Jul 6, 2017 12:44:31 GMT
Holy crap. I woke up to all these posts, then realized somebody totally merged a thread with ours... time to play catch up.
Starlord, the longest fic I've ever posted was around 20,000 words, so I'd say you're doing awesome, especially at 45%.
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Post by dirtrider00 on Jul 6, 2017 13:03:47 GMT
Reyes must be a love/hate character. For me and the friends I have that played MEA his arc felt to forced and in your face. Not one I have any desire to pursue in a dlc or another MEA. it is forced but this is not a bad thing. Besides you have a choice. you do not have to like him. In all mediums and games something is forced. They must have merged a different thread and at the time didn't want to get into spoilers. Yes I know some characters are forced and rushed in there story arcs whether a book or a game. I just disliked his character from the get go. Still have no desire to see him in any more content MEA related.
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Post by Zitrus on Jul 6, 2017 13:14:19 GMT
That whole bar scene was what really sold me on the romance. The flirting, Umi falling into despair, Ryder getting jealous or Reyes telling how delicate he is (too bad you can’t get both dialogue options)... What I didn’t notice previously before making this gif, at the start Reyes is looking behind him, but then quickly turns his head back all nonchalantly. And then Ryder’s comment gets through and he can’t help but break into that smile. Reyes’ facial animations IMO have always been really good, this smile and the wink. Nice screens, your Sara looks a lot like Ellen. Was that intentional? I’ve never seen that hiding option before (and never will lol), thanks for posting. Haha yes, it's fun. I imagine Umi rolling her eyes off-screen at their banter. Yes, he looks to the side first. I can't decide if he sees Ryder before turning around (and pretends he was totally not looking for them) or not. Maybe Umi said something, so that's why he quickly looks away and is startled for half a second. And notice how Ryder glances at him after the greeting. He's pretty expressive. Some of it is only subtle. Thanks. No, she is my first char when I didn't know Ellen would be in the game. Never? Not even in relaoads? I reloaded so much to see his different stuff. And lol, what happended to the thread, crazy. Does anyone else want more Reyes Vidal? I sure as hell do. Not to break your heart, but reyes is a conniving piece of shit charmer who is only out for power and will use anything (or anyone: a.k.a. you) in his quest for egomaniacal power. In my first playthrough I went with sloane kelly. And I kinda felt bad for it because on the surface, she seems like the jackass and reyes seems like a good guy. So In my second oplaythorough I really focused on the dialogue with both reyes and sloane. And you know what stuck? Right from the get-go: 2 things. 1) On your first meeting, Reyes makes YOU pay for the drinks. I mean, WTF? He orders them and offers it to me, and then makes ME pay for it and when I call him out on it, he just winks at me. How much more of a jackass can you be? 1B) Also, in his final scene, he basically says he always wanted power. And he will stop at nothing to obtain it, use event he most foul methods (seriously, sniping sloane while distracting her? How lame). And his actions show just that. He uses everything and everyone (even the roekaar) he can just for the sake of power, not even to help others or to be able to do more good. Just. For power. 2) Sloane is like an unfriendly person, but at least she's honest and shows no signs of being unjust. Sure, she is hard, but let's not forget she is basically running an outfit of runaway outcasts who have very little resources. As a leader, she NEEDS to be hard. If not, if she shows weakness, some lesser being may overthrow her. But no scene shows her to be dishonest. 2B) Besides, she is in it to help people. In one of her initial chats, she says she hated the side switching which Tann did during the revolt, and all Sloane wanted (why she joined the revolution) was to prevent unnecessary bloodshed. She. Actually. Cares. about her people. So that's why I'll choose Sloane every time. She's a cunt, sure, but I'd trust her to watch my back. Reyes? Wouldn't trust him with 50 credits even if my life depended on it. 1. Well, It's not the nicest thing to let someone else pay but I can think of a lot worse stuff. 1B) Who says he won't stop at nothing? And he found the place was run in a bad way and thought he could do better. Sniping was explained before, he sets her up, it was not intended as a straight duel. He helps while taking power. He has the soup kitchen, he helps Dr. Nakamoto. It helps him too of course but but not only. And why does Sloane not bother to take care of the Roekaar if she is so good? 2. There' the honesty again. You don't find it dishonest that she takes away cargo intended for the outpost and charges a finder's fee for it? That's stealing right after you made a deal with her. She's also not just. She hires only people she has history with for higher positions, regardless if they are any good at it. 2B) She is not in it to help. Or is making people drug addicts helping? Is charging ever higher protection fees helping? No to talk of the beatings. No, she wants power. I would not. She can easily decide you're more trouble than it's worth.
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Post by PillarBiter on Jul 6, 2017 13:35:17 GMT
Not to break your heart, but reyes is a conniving piece of shit charmer who is only out for power and will use anything (or anyone: a.k.a. you) in his quest for egomaniacal power. In my first playthrough I went with sloane kelly. And I kinda felt bad for it because on the surface, she seems like the jackass and reyes seems like a good guy. So In my second oplaythorough I really focused on the dialogue with both reyes and sloane. And you know what stuck? Right from the get-go: 2 things. 1) On your first meeting, Reyes makes YOU pay for the drinks. I mean, WTF? He orders them and offers it to me, and then makes ME pay for it and when I call him out on it, he just winks at me. How much more of a jackass can you be? 1B) Also, in his final scene, he basically says he always wanted power. And he will stop at nothing to obtain it, use event he most foul methods (seriously, sniping sloane while distracting her? How lame). And his actions show just that. He uses everything and everyone (even the roekaar) he can just for the sake of power, not even to help others or to be able to do more good. Just. For power. 2) Sloane is like an unfriendly person, but at least she's honest and shows no signs of being unjust. Sure, she is hard, but let's not forget she is basically running an outfit of runaway outcasts who have very little resources. As a leader, she NEEDS to be hard. If not, if she shows weakness, some lesser being may overthrow her. But no scene shows her to be dishonest. 2B) Besides, she is in it to help people. In one of her initial chats, she says she hated the side switching which Tann did during the revolt, and all Sloane wanted (why she joined the revolution) was to prevent unnecessary bloodshed. She. Actually. Cares. about her people. So that's why I'll choose Sloane every time. She's a cunt, sure, but I'd trust her to watch my back. Reyes? Wouldn't trust him with 50 credits even if my life depended on it. 1. Well, It's not the nicest thing to let someone else pay but I can think of a lot worse stuff. 1B) Who says he won't stop at nothing? And he found the place was run in a bad way and thought he could do better. Sniping was explained before, he sets her up, it was not intended as a straight duel. He helps while taking power. He has the soup kitchen, he helps Dr. Nakamoto. It helps him too of course but but not only. And why does Sloane not bother to take care of the Roekaar if she is so good? 2. There' the honesty again. You don't find it dishonest that she takes away cargo intended for the outpost and charges a finder's fee for it? That's stealing right after you made a deal with her. She's also not just. She hires only people she has history with for higher positions, regardless if they are any good at it. 2B) She is not in it to help. Or is making people drug addicts helping? Is charging ever higher protection fees helping? No to talk of the beatings. No, she wants power. I would not. She can easily decide you're more trouble than it's worth. 1B) How is using you not stopping at nothing? He kills anyone he thinks needs killing (sloane) without giving it a second thought. Exactly, he THINKS he can do better, but he's nothing but another villain aiming for power. He uses the excuse of being better (which he's not) as a means to power. Which is ironic, considering he sets up sloane instead of a fair fight... Dr Nakamoto... pshh, please. As if that guy wasn't in it for the drugs himself. he's just jelly that Sloane took it from him. And Reyes just helps the poor people so he has an army which stands behind him because they'd believe he's looking out for the little guy, while he's in fact just using them... And of course Sloane doesn't take care of the roekaar, she has nothing to gain. If she takes care of them, she'll lose people. And what does getting rid of them really solve? Nothing much. They have a common enemy: the kett. As long as the roekaar are killing kett, the status quo is maintained. 2) true, but she's not lying about it. If I were a leader of a band of mercs, I would only want people up to the job for it whcih I could trust as well. WHy in the blazes woudl I hire people I don't know? Whether that is just or not, she doesn't lie about it and tells it outright. 2B) Not to say she doesn't want power, but discipline is difficult to come by. You're stranded on a rock millions of lightyears away from home without resources. Everyone needs to contribute. Well IF she would decide you're worth more trouble than you're worth, she'd just cut ties with you, not kill you while you sleep. In any case, this discussion just proves what a great arc that was And how people interpret everything differently. All in all hats off to the writers!
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Post by orchid on Jul 6, 2017 14:04:54 GMT
2) Sloane is like an unfriendly person, but at least she's honest and shows no signs of being unjust. Sure, she is hard, but let's not forget she is basically running an outfit of runaway outcasts who have very little resources. As a leader, she NEEDS to be hard. If not, if she shows weakness, some lesser being may overthrow her. But no scene shows her to be dishonest. 2B) Besides, she is in it to help people. In one of her initial chats, she says she hated the side switching which Tann did during the revolt, and all Sloane wanted (why she joined the revolution) was to prevent unnecessary bloodshed. She. Actually. Cares. about her people. Unless Ryder intervenes, she does get overthrown. Her own ranks get infiltrated and she ends up alone, distrustful and angry in her throne room. So I guess being hard and not showing weakness really paid off, huh? She knows no diplomacy or how to compromise, and to Initiative to negotiate with such a hard-head is going to be a pain. As for honesty, yes, when she says that the Initiative will always be an enemy to her, I do believe she’s not lying. Better act accordingly. Have you done the quest? If you give the formula or whatever back to him, the drug sale stops, he doesn't continue manufacturing it himself. Besides, even if Nakamoto was jealous, it wouldn't change the fact that Sloane knowingly set out to harm people and preventing doing them good via medicine. Your argument was that Sloane ~cares~. Sloane talk should probably go in the Sloane thread tho. Edit, lest I sounded too stand-offish: The arc is indeed good and offers lots of reasons for both sides, and the discussions provoked by it indeed prove that. :smiles: Yes, he looks to the side first. I can't decide if he sees Ryder before turning around (and pretends he was totally not looking for them) or not. Maybe Umi said something, so that's why he quickly looks away and is startled for half a second. And notice how Ryder glances at him after the greeting. Indeed. I like the eye play here and finally I have a Ryder whose face looks normal when emoting (most of the time, anyway). I see more gifs in my future. I think Reyes was totally playing it cool. Or maybe he doesn't like having his back to an open room and glances out of habit when he hears footsteps. Nope, the interrupt is so deep in the middle of "no saves allowed" zone that I can't bother. I've also accepted that I won't try any other romances, and that kiss is all I want to see anyway.
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Post by Zitrus on Jul 6, 2017 14:47:25 GMT
1B) How is using you not stopping at nothing? He kills anyone he thinks needs killing (sloane) without giving it a second thought. He kills her and she would have killed him, that's it. He's not killing without a second thought. You know he could've taken out Sloane without Ryder's help. With them it's easier and also good for future AI relations but it wasn't like he needed the help or it wouldn't have worked out at all (except it's a game so everything waits for the player). I just don't see doing that = stopping at nothing. Maybe he can do better, who knows. Being a better shot has nothing to do with being better at running a city. Why was she alone there? Because she's not a good leader, hence why he was able to turn her own people against her. Really? You believe the asari "doctor" who's lying to you? And Nakamoto is also lying in his own diary then in case Ryder comes across it or what? That makes no sense to me. Of course he's also helping them for good PR, guy who gives the food even says they should remember who fed them. Doesn't negate the fact they are helped. And if you want to take over a city, making sure there are fewer poor is a good thing. She has nothing to gain by eliminating the Roekaar? They are killing people in the city (even some of her Outcasts), the city she is supposed to protect. They are killing angara who also run the water filter system. Ignoring such a problem is part of her downfall. The Roekaar are not there to kill the kett, sure should they come across them they do but they want Kadara Port back. Oh, btw the kett which she claims she has eradicated but lo and behold, some are left but of course this is kept quiet for PR. Very honest. I would hire people who are up to the job. Sure vet them, I would too, that's common sense but if you hire them only on the basis that you know them, no matter if they are good at what they do, that's stupid and not just because she doesn't give everyone the same chance. Discipline with drugs and beatings then. Very nice. Contribution is important but not like this. And most of the money and if you choose her the imports are going to her crew. Would she? Or maybe she would kill you with a point blank shot in your face. Indeed. I like the eye play here and finally I have a Ryder whose face looks normal when emoting (most of the time, anyway). I see more gifs in my future. Gifs are great. Yes, hm, I think I'll explore this scene with the flycam. Maybe Umi does something. I have a save right before the party starts.
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Post by normandy on Jul 6, 2017 15:42:26 GMT
Just checked new patch, I was hoping they fix the bug with dance scene, but it still there
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