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Post by Hrungr on Aug 6, 2016 14:53:42 GMT
Update:
As it seems that there are a fair number of people having issues with the current linked tweets (bandwidth/browser issues/blocked at work), we're going to switch back to the old method (copy/paste) as it's important that everyone can see them.
Please Read First!
I've noticed that some users are having issues seeing the tweets in the format we're posting them in on the boards. Because they are having to load remotely, it looks like slower connections (particularly mobile) struggle to load them sometimes. And earlier I noticed that there were also viewing issues with some browsers/settings.
So I was going to propose we go back to the way we used to post them on BSN Prime - a simple copy/paste of the tweet so it winds up as just text here, with only the images and video loading remotely. The pages should also load faster as well.
The downside though is that you lose all that nice formatting as well as the link to the actual tweet.
I've PM'd Lady Sif & SofaJockey on this as well and I'm putting up a poll to see how strongly people feel about it here.
Thoughts? Alternatives?
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Post by themikefest on Aug 6, 2016 15:15:45 GMT
I like the way it was done on bsn
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 6, 2016 15:27:25 GMT
I like this new way. But maybe in the Twitter archives use the old way. I guess that would depend on whether the Admin/Mods didn't mind the extra work to reformat them..
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Post by Avejajed on Aug 6, 2016 15:28:43 GMT
I like the copy paste of the tweet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 15:32:19 GMT
I like this new way. But maybe in the Twitter archives use the old way. I guess that would depend on whether the Admin/Mods didn't mind the extra work to reformat them.. Nevermind
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Post by Furisco on Aug 6, 2016 15:38:17 GMT
I love the new format.
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Post by originofwaves on Aug 6, 2016 15:40:32 GMT
i'm for the new format, it just so easy and looks great. maybe instead of changing the format of the tweets we could make a thread with all the solutions on what to do to have tweets display properly if you're having trouble seeing them.
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 6, 2016 15:55:26 GMT
i'm for the new format, it just so easy and looks great. maybe instead of changing the format of the tweets we could make a thread with all the solutions on what to do to have tweets display properly if you're having trouble seeing them. For the browser issues that can be resolved, maybe SofaJockey could put those solutions in the OPs? Some of the issues appear to be bandwidth-related though (mobiles mostly by the sound of it), which there's probably no way to get around.
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Post by bshep on Aug 6, 2016 16:06:33 GMT
I prefer the new format too.
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Post by lynas on Aug 6, 2016 17:04:10 GMT
I'm good with the new format
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Post by originofwaves on Aug 6, 2016 18:34:49 GMT
i'm for the new format, it just so easy and looks great. maybe instead of changing the format of the tweets we could make a thread with all the solutions on what to do to have tweets display properly if you're having trouble seeing them. For the browser issues that can be resolved, maybe SofaJockey could put those solutions in the OPs? Some of the issues appear to be bandwidth-related though (mobiles mostly by the sound of it), which there's probably no way to get around. i'm wondering if it would be feasible to do both copy/paste of the tweet link and copy/paste of the text of the tweet when posting tweets. that way people with slow connections still see the tweet like on the original BSN.
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 6, 2016 18:50:44 GMT
For the browser issues that can be resolved, maybe SofaJockey could put those solutions in the OPs? Some of the issues appear to be bandwidth-related though (mobiles mostly by the sound of it), which there's probably no way to get around. i'm wondering if it would be feasible to do both copy/paste of the tweet link and copy/paste of the text of the tweet when posting tweets. that way people with slow connections still see the tweet like on the original BSN. I was mulling this over this idea earlier, but I'd prefer not to double-up the tweets in every post. Tweet conversations in the new format eat up a lot of screen real estate as it is, especially when you have images too, and I'm not keen on making them any larger. I briefly considered including the copy/paste versions hidden behind a Spoiler tag, but that's just more work yet. And while that's not that big a deal when it's slow like now, when it gets busy - you won't want to have that extra work.
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Post by BountyhunterGER on Aug 6, 2016 18:52:43 GMT
The new one looks good enough.
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Post by pdusen on Aug 6, 2016 22:23:54 GMT
The only real problem I have with the new method is that the tweets don't load at all in Tapatalk on Android; all you get is the link that was pasted in.
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Post by Sartoz on Aug 7, 2016 5:16:40 GMT
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Post by LFS on Aug 7, 2016 15:45:09 GMT
I wonder would it be possible to split the difference? Perhaps in the Discussion thread, copy/paste the Tweet content in the old style so that everyone could read them regardless of device, but in the Twitter Archive thread, paste them in the new format so there's more an official, traceable link back to the original content? Or would that be too much work/double handling as well?
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 7, 2016 17:13:32 GMT
I wonder would it be possible to split the difference? Perhaps in the Discussion thread, copy/paste the Tweet content in the old style so that everyone could read them regardless of device, but in the Twitter Archive thread, paste them in the new format so there's more an official, traceable link back to the original content? Or would that be too much work/double handling as well? That would be dependent on the mods/admin. The biggest issue I see with this is that when you copy/paste the tweets as we did on the old boards, the link is lost, so the mods would then have to hunt down the original tweet in order to repost it in the link format...
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Post by themikefest on Aug 7, 2016 17:19:14 GMT
I wonder would it be possible to split the difference? Perhaps in the Discussion thread, copy/paste the Tweet content in the old style so that everyone could read them regardless of device, but in the Twitter Archive thread, paste them in the new format so there's more an official, traceable link back to the original content? Or would that be too much work/double handling as well? That would be dependent on the mods/admin. The biggest issue I see with this is that when you copy/paste the tweets as we did on the old boards, the link is lost, so the mods would then have to hunt down the original tweet in order to repost it in the link format... Could you do both when posting in the thread?
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Aug 7, 2016 17:42:05 GMT
I apparently can't see the new way on my browser at home for some reason, whereas I could see the old way no matter what computer/browser I used, so I know my vote. Though embedding tweets is cool and I am sure its much easier for you, hrungr, which is a perfectly valid reason to keep doing what you're doing. so do what you want. EDIT: Unless there is a technical solution I havn't figured out, yet, in which case someone tell me and I will vote we keep the current format. I am using firefox on a PC with a consistent 1GB internet connection.
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Post by LFS on Aug 7, 2016 17:54:47 GMT
That would be dependent on the mods/admin. So what I'm hearing it... Hrungr for forum mod! J/Kpleasedon'thurtme For real, though -- To me, the appeal of the Twitter thread is not just the consolidation of pertinent information, but also the way it demystifies the medium for people who can't or don't want to use it themselves. To that end, I think the information should be made as accessible as possible, or else the quality of the thread itself as a resource starts to erode. If there's no clear workaround for the loading issues, then plain text posting style like on BSN Prime might be in the best interests of everyone, even as clean and awesome as the new format is.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 7, 2016 17:59:37 GMT
I apparently can't see the new way on my browser at home for some reason, whereas I could see the old way no matter what computer/browser I used, so I know my vote. Though embedding tweets is cool and I am sure its much easier for you, hrungr, which is a perfectly valid reason to keep doing what you're doing. so do what you want. EDIT: Unless there is a technical solution I havn't figured out, yet, in which case someone tell me and I will vote we keep the current format. I am using firefox on a PC with a consistent 1GB internet connection. In my case the tweet doesn't show up because I use Windows Vista on my desk top and using Firefox. When I installed Chrome, the tweets show up. On my laptop, I have Firefox with Windows 10 and the tweets show up fine. Since I rarely use the laptop, I just switch to using Chrome on my desktop when I want to view the tweets. Of course, for me anyways, I would rather have the copy/paste like before so I don't have to switch to Chrome every time I want to see the tweets
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Post by originofwaves on Aug 7, 2016 18:47:15 GMT
I apparently can't see the new way on my browser at home for some reason, whereas I could see the old way no matter what computer/browser I used, so I know my vote. Though embedding tweets is cool and I am sure its much easier for you, hrungr, which is a perfectly valid reason to keep doing what you're doing. so do what you want. EDIT: Unless there is a technical solution I havn't figured out, yet, in which case someone tell me and I will vote we keep the current format. I am using firefox on a PC with a consistent 1GB internet connection. make sure that you don't have an extension that is blocking the BSN boards (ghostery, adblock). also if you have windows 10 then you don't need any other browser. the stock windows browser (Edge i think it's called) displays the tweets correctly.
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 7, 2016 20:06:36 GMT
That would be dependent on the mods/admin. The biggest issue I see with this is that when you copy/paste the tweets as we did on the old boards, the link is lost, so the mods would then have to hunt down the original tweet in order to repost it in the link format... Could you do both when posting in the thread? I did touch on this idea earlier in the thread, and I'd rather not double up on the posts/work. While it wouldn't be a big hassle now when it's slow, when the deluge inevitably hits us, I don't think any of us will want that extra work. Especially those us who will be work-working as well. I apparently can't see the new way on my browser at home for some reason, whereas I could see the old way no matter what computer/browser I used, so I know my vote. Though embedding tweets is cool and I am sure its much easier for you, hrungr, which is a perfectly valid reason to keep doing what you're doing. so do what you want. EDIT: Unless there is a technical solution I havn't figured out, yet, in which case someone tell me and I will vote we keep the current format. I am using firefox on a PC with a consistent 1GB internet connection. There have been a number of good tips in the DA thread (and I can see in this thread too) about getting them to view in your browser. I'm hoping when SofaJockey gets a chance, he can compile them into the OPs of the Twitter Threads. That would be dependent on the mods/admin. So what I'm hearing it... Hrungr for forum mod! J/Kpleasedon'thurtme For real, though -- To me, the appeal of the Twitter thread is not just the consolidation of pertinent information, but also the way it demystifies the medium for people who can't or don't want to use it themselves. To that end, I think the information should be made as accessible as possible, or else the quality of the thread itself as a resource starts to erode. If there's no clear workaround for the loading issues, then plain text posting style like on BSN Prime might be in the best interests of everyone, even as clean and awesome as the new format is. Originally, I toyed with the idea of just switching back to the old way, but I felt it was important to see how strongly people felt about this. I also wanted to see if anyone had a clever solution to this issue that I wasn't seeing. There are some advantages to having a linked tweet beyond just the formatting. Being a link means you can always go back to that conversation, which I find handy every now and again. Also, gifs run properly in their own windows with the linked tweet. When we copy/paste the tweets, we have to dig into the html to find the gif link, then post that as separate link. It's not a big deal, but full-screen gifs aren't the greatest. I'm going to leave the poll up a few more days, get some more feedback, and I'm sure I'll have another discussion with Lady Sif and SofaJockey to get their thoughts on this.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 7, 2016 20:08:32 GMT
Hrungr Do we have the Tweet format agreed? I've been holding back posting archive / OP data until we have 'a plan..'
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 7, 2016 20:13:43 GMT
Hrungr Do we have the Tweet format agreed? I've been holding back posting archive / OP data until we have 'a plan..' Let's hold off making a decision for a couple more days. I just want to mull this over a little more...
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