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Post by Nightman on Dec 17, 2016 18:30:08 GMT
I was bored the other day so I started watching one of those Alaska out in the wilderness shows on discovery channel...and I decided that if those people can survive up there then so can I ......wish me luck, I'm moving.....I mean, how hard could it be?
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Post by Lady Artifice on Dec 17, 2016 18:43:22 GMT
So you're claiming that every person who has been attacked by say, a great white shark or a crocodile, has done something personally to provoke that attack? Even the children? Personally, I interpreted it to mean that animals are more predictable than humans... which I agree with, really... I mean, other animals tend to be less intelligent and more instinct-focused which means that they can be predicted easier and that theres always some reason behind what they do... like theyre hungry, so they hunt... that kind of thing, ofc humans have instincts too but we also have more psychological diversity and that makes us harder to predict, I really REALLY doubt that she meant that children have somehow personally provoked a shark into killing them Plus out of all the animals in the world, humans are the second most dangerous to other humans The fact that humans are a danger to other humans is so painfully obvious a reality of life that it goes without saying. It does not, however, follow that animals are never a threat to humans without specific provocation, which is precisely what the poster I quoted claimed.
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Post by Verro on Dec 17, 2016 18:46:06 GMT
How are people dying from freshwater snails? Just googled "freshwater snails murder humans" So humans drink eggs then get a parasite and die??? Wow, shitty way to die. If I went that way I'd hope that an afterlife is just a fairy tale. ''So what got you?'' ''Uncooked snail eggs.''
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 19:15:02 GMT
Personally, I interpreted it to mean that animals are more predictable than humans... which I agree with, really... I mean, other animals tend to be less intelligent and more instinct-focused which means that they can be predicted easier and that theres always some reason behind what they do... like theyre hungry, so they hunt... that kind of thing, ofc humans have instincts too but we also have more psychological diversity and that makes us harder to predict, I really REALLY doubt that she meant that children have somehow personally provoked a shark into killing them Plus out of all the animals in the world, humans are the second most dangerous to other humans The fact that humans are a danger to other humans is so painfully obvious a reality of life that it goes without saying. It does not, however, follow that animals are never a threat to humans without specific provocation, which is precisely what the poster I quoted claimed.
Errrmmm... no... not at all
Provocation was an example of a reason, not that 'specific provocation' was the only reason why an animal would attack someone... like... the quote is right there And I dont really see it saying "animals only attack people when theyre provoked", I see "nor do I think theyd attack humans without a reason, LIKE without being provoked"... provocation being the example of a reason not the only reason which she said??? Your interpretation of things and what was actually said dont match up... at all... in any way... unless you misread a few words??? Which I do sometimes to be fair but eh
Interpretations, they matter... make sure yours is the right one
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 19:23:09 GMT
Just googled "freshwater snails murder humans" So humans drink eggs then get a parasite and die??? Wow, shitty way to die. If I went that way I'd hope that an afterlife is just a fairy tale. ''So what got you?'' ''Uncooked snail eggs.''
Yup haha it would be pretty bad... sounds painful also??? well not pleasant anyhow... I can think of better ways to die for sure
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Post by PATPATPATlol on Dec 17, 2016 19:25:54 GMT
I would try to wrestle a lion naked. It is the ultimate test to prove how tough you are. If you win, sweet. If not, well you were naked when you were killed by a lion and now you are food for the big kitty.
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Post by Lady Artifice on Dec 17, 2016 19:29:30 GMT
The fact that humans are a danger to other humans is so painfully obvious a reality of life that it goes without saying. It does not, however, follow that animals are never a threat to humans without specific provocation, which is precisely what the poster I quoted claimed.
Errrmmm... no... not at all
Provocation was an example of a reason, not that 'specific provocation' was the only reason why an animal would attack someone... like... the quote is right there And I dont really see it saying "animals only attack people when theyre provoked", I see "nor do I think theyd attack humans without a reason, LIKE without being provoked"... provocation being the example of a reason not the only reason which she said??? Your interpretation of things and what was actually said dont match up... at all... in any way... unless you misread a few words??? Which I do sometimes to be fair but eh
Interpretations, they matter... make sure yours is the right one I'm reading the same quote you are. "Nor do I believe they would attack with reason, like without being provoked." This asserts, in no uncertain terms, the belief that an animal would not attack without reason, which raises the question of what constitutes a reason. My mother was once chased onto the roof of her car by a pack of dogs, demonstrating natural territorial and pack instincts. This is a reason, certainly, but it's of little concern to a victim of a wild dog attack. My initial query was designed with the intent of doing precisely this. Hence the question mark, and the lack of catty winking emojis.
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Post by PATPATPATlol on Dec 17, 2016 19:36:47 GMT
I think some animals will attack regardless if they have a reason or not. It depends on the intelligence of an animal as well and could attack anything for just shits and giggles. I guess this would be considered playing. Ravens for example have been known to attack and even kill newborn cows by poking their eyes out. This is certainly not for food but more likely the ravens just want to do it because it must be fun for them considering how intelligent they are. Other than that assumption, no one really knows why ravens would do this act. Don't know if this helps contribute to the discussion or not.
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Post by Verro on Dec 17, 2016 19:39:56 GMT
Wow, shitty way to die. If I went that way I'd hope that an afterlife is just a fairy tale. ''So what got you?'' ''Uncooked snail eggs.''
Yup haha it would be pretty bad... sounds painful also??? well not pleasant anyhow... I can think of better ways to die for sure
''schistosoma, a parasitic worm'' ''we are infected with schistosomiasis.'' I was trying to remember why this sounded familiar. I saw this on ''1000 Ways to Die''. Dying from this is a very unpleasant (putting it mildly) experience.
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Dec 17, 2016 20:26:56 GMT
Wow... talk about taking my post far.... all I said was that I really don't believe that animals will attack humans without being provoked. If you don't like me saying that, then that's just too bad, cause you not liking that is not gonna change how I feel or think about this subject. In my viewpoint, HUMANS are the worst enemies to humans and that's that. Humans are scum and evil, most of them... if people could learn to treat others with kindness and respect and not behave like vicious murderers, then they would learn to really survive. THATS how I think. Take it or leave it
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Post by masterwarderz on Dec 17, 2016 20:31:22 GMT
Wow... talk about taking my quote far.... all I said was that I really don't believe that animals will attack humans without being provoked. If you don't like me saying that, then that's just too bad, cause you not liking that is not gonna change how I feel or think about this subject. In my viewpoint, HUMANS are the worst enemies to humans and that's that. Humans are scum and evil, most of them... if people could learn to treat others with kindness and respect and not behave like vicious murderers, then they would learn to really survive. THATS how I think. Take it or leave it You sound like a hippie to be honest.
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Post by Ravenous Bear on Dec 17, 2016 20:40:55 GMT
While traveling in Grizzly Bear country, lather yourself liberally with peanut butter. If you encounter a grizzly bear charge towards it. The grizzly will give you big "bear hug". Trust me on this. Or just invest in one of theses. Bearspray vs Bullets
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Post by LightningPoodle on Dec 17, 2016 20:41:52 GMT
Befriend the creature.
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Face death with dignity.
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Post by masterwarderz on Dec 17, 2016 20:48:21 GMT
Trust me buckaroo anything that gets hit with one or two of those slugs isn't going to keep charging, its going to face-plant with half its guts coming out of its back. Its a big game handgun with a very large bullet. Its practically designed to kill buffalo, moose and bear.
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Post by Lady Artifice on Dec 17, 2016 20:54:36 GMT
Wow... talk about taking my post far.... all I said was that I really don't believe that animals will attack humans without being provoked. If you don't like me saying that, then that's just too bad, cause you not liking that is not gonna change how I feel or think about this subject. In my viewpoint, HUMANS are the worst enemies to humans and that's that. Humans are scum and evil, most of them... if people could learn to treat others with kindness and respect and not behave like vicious murderers, then they would learn to really survive. THATS how I think. Take it or leave it Which then raises two questions, the first being the one I previously asked: Do you then claim that every person who has ever been attacked by a wild animal, whatever their age or situation, provoked that attack? The second being: Why did you bring up the subject of killing animals in the first place, when no one else had? (Certainly not the OP, which contained advice for fending off an animal attack, but never discussed killing them)
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Post by Lady Artifice on Dec 17, 2016 20:57:25 GMT
So you're claiming that every person who has been attacked by say, a great white shark or a crocodile, has done something personally to provoke that attack? Even the children? ...I agree with Arti on something. Weird, its happened before but is never unsurprising, I mean she lives in California for Christ sake. Let's not get drastic. I asked a question, but we might both still be spared the indignity of actually agreeing on something.
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Post by RakiaTime on Dec 17, 2016 21:11:07 GMT
Well said Gen I'd never attack an animal, nor do I think they'd attack humans without reason, like without being provoked. Humans are more likely to attack animals and each other without cause and reason than the other way around Edit: If you want to learn how to survive in this world, then learn how to be a good human being, not how to kill innocent animals. So you're claiming that every person who has been attacked by say, a great white shark or a crocodile, has done something personally to provoke that attack? Even the children? lets be fair here, children have it coming
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Post by Pearl on Dec 17, 2016 21:16:43 GMT
all I said was that I really don't believe that animals will attack humans without being provoked. Predators need to eat too.
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Post by Ravenous Bear on Dec 17, 2016 21:23:59 GMT
all I said was that I really don't believe that animals will attack humans without being provoked. Predators need to eat too. Usually it is the starving, weak and/or old predators that prey on humans iirc. I know polar bears will actively hunt humans as prey.
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Post by Lorn on Dec 17, 2016 21:24:55 GMT
all I said was that I really don't believe that animals will attack humans without being provoked. Predators need to eat too. Let's be real here, we all know that if we offered a nice salad to a polar bear the polar bear would rather eat the salad than the human providing it.
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Post by RakiaTime on Dec 17, 2016 21:26:04 GMT
Predators need to eat too. Let's be real here, we all know that if we offered a nice salad to a polar bear the polar bear would rather eat the salad than the human providing it. if its a meat salad, then yes
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Dec 17, 2016 21:28:45 GMT
I was bored the other day so I started watching one of those Alaska out in the wilderness shows on discovery channel...and I decided that if those people can survive up there then so can I ......wish me luck, I'm moving.....I mean, how hard could it be? Uh.... Okay, so I'm from Alaska (and a member of volunteer search and rescue up there). So I'm just going to say, "Not as hard as the Discovery Channel makes it look, but please exhibit common sense, always take a buddy or tell someone which direction you went, and carry some form of bear deterrent as well as the means to start a fire." Alaska's actually pretty awesome. Anyway, in a worst case scenario -- flipped kayak, falling through the ice, whatever -- the key is to stay calm. It helps to have practiced for the scenario. If your favored bear deterrent is a pistol, PRACTICE WITH IT. Otherwise, you're going to just piss it off when you miss. Most people are terrible with pistols when the adrenaline's going. If you run over the worst case events in your head and make a plan for them, you'll be calm when the crisis comes and able to deal. Helped me when I lost my dog team on the trail, helped me when I lost my canoe in back country, helped me when I was caught in a small avalanche skiing, helped me when I got charged by a moose, helped me deal peaceably with bears... Stay calm, formulate a plan, execute it.
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Post by Lorn on Dec 17, 2016 21:35:05 GMT
I was bored the other day so I started watching one of those Alaska out in the wilderness shows on discovery channel...and I decided that if those people can survive up there then so can I ......wish me luck, I'm moving.....I mean, how hard could it be? Uh.... Okay, so I'm from Alaska (and a member of volunteer search and rescue up there). So I'm just going to say, "Not as hard as the Discovery Channel makes it look, but please exhibit common sense, always take a buddy or tell someone which direction you went, and carry some form of bear deterrent as well as the means to start a fire." Alaska's actually pretty awesome. Anyway, in a worst case scenario -- flipped kayak, falling through the ice, whatever -- the key is to stay calm. It helps to have practiced for the scenario. If your favored bear deterrent is a pistol, PRACTICE WITH IT. Otherwise, you're going to just piss it off when you miss. Most people are terrible with pistols when the adrenaline's going. If you run over the worst case events in your head and make a plan for them, you'll be calm when the crisis comes and able to deal. Helped me when I lost my dog team on the trail, helped me when I lost my canoe in back country, helped me when I was caught in a small avalanche skiing, helped me when I got charged by a moose, helped me deal peaceably with bears... Stay calm, formulate a plan, execute it. What?! That's a lie, the NRA told me otherwise and they wouldn't lie about things like that!
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Post by masterwarderz on Dec 17, 2016 21:40:38 GMT
I was bored the other day so I started watching one of those Alaska out in the wilderness shows on discovery channel...and I decided that if those people can survive up there then so can I ......wish me luck, I'm moving.....I mean, how hard could it be? Uh.... Okay, so I'm from Alaska (and a member of volunteer search and rescue up there). So I'm just going to say, "Not as hard as the Discovery Channel makes it look, but please exhibit common sense, always take a buddy or tell someone which direction you went, and carry some form of bear deterrent as well as the means to start a fire." Alaska's actually pretty awesome. Anyway, in a worst case scenario -- flipped kayak, falling through the ice, whatever -- the key is to stay calm. It helps to have practiced for the scenario. If your favored bear deterrent is a pistol, PRACTICE WITH IT. Otherwise, you're going to just piss it off when you miss. Most people are terrible with pistols when the adrenaline's going. If you run over the worst case events in your head and make a plan for them, you'll be calm when the crisis comes and able to deal. Helped me when I lost my dog team on the trail, helped me when I lost my canoe in back country, helped me when I was caught in a small avalanche skiing, helped me when I got charged by a moose, helped me deal peaceably with bears... Stay calm, formulate a plan, execute it. ._. Given we are talking outdoorsman, wouldn't practice with a given firearm be a given? I don't know about others but I don't entrust my life to a showpiece I've never taken off the mantle.
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Post by masterwarderz on Dec 17, 2016 21:42:29 GMT
...I agree with Arti on something. Weird, its happened before but is never unsurprising, I mean she lives in California for Christ sake. Let's not get drastic. I asked a question, but we might both still be spared the indignity of actually agreeing on something. We've found agreement before.
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