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Post by bullwinkl3 on Dec 18, 2016 22:34:01 GMT
Favourites for me would be the Quarians and the Geth, I loved their whole story line. Least favourites would be the Hanar and the Elcor, they had virtually no story line at all. I hope the new races we meet in MEA have a story/history to them for us to explore?
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Post by Draining Dragon on Dec 18, 2016 22:43:51 GMT
My favorites are
1. Turians: they look cool, and I admire their pragmatism and sense of duty.
2. Quarians: their back story is compelling and I always like tech-oriented characters in fantasy and sci-fi.
3. Krogans: proud warrior race guys are always fun.
My least favorite are the asari. Frigging space elves.
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Post by President of Boom on Dec 19, 2016 0:26:16 GMT
Favorites: 1. Salarians 2. Geth 3. Elcor
Least favorite: 1. Asari 2. Vorcha 3. Hanar
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Post by wright1978 on Dec 19, 2016 13:28:36 GMT
Favourites: Humans(well i am one), Salarians(we don't often see shorter lived races and Mordin in ME2 just made me like them even more). Finally had to go for one of the minor races which are somewhat different. Was a toss up between Elcor tanks with their different approach to language and the hanar. Ended up plumping for Hanar.
Least favourites. Vorcha, just feel rather dull and underdeveloped. The drell also feel a mediocre addition, which pale before the existing biped main races.
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Post by Vortex13 on Dec 19, 2016 13:49:04 GMT
Nobody's mentioned the Thorian? A fungoid species that can 'cure' indoctrination.
Why did the plot have to have us kill it again?
Between the Thorian being able to remove the effects of indoctrination on organics, and the Rachni being practically immune to it altogether you would think that those two would have been featured more heavily in the Reaper invasion. In a way, those two species posed a greater threat to the Reapers/Catalyst than any other species present in the entire timeline of the galaxy. Aliens that ignore indoctrination, and will likely never ever develop synthetics? Kinda renders their whole galactic 'lab experiment' null and void.
The Throian and the Rachni, the true master races of the Milky Way.
Of course this is also explains why these two aliens were quickly wiped out, the Reapers can't have anything present that completely refutes their entire purpose for existing.
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Post by Kian on Dec 19, 2016 13:54:25 GMT
Favorite: humans (since we are the aliens in Andromeda, so it applies) Least favorite (as in nauseating): asari If they had made the asari androgynous and non-gendered, with the lore that is now, I would have applauded Bioware. As it stands the asari is a simplistic and dimwitted recycled concept. Sure there will be people who like it, but that's irrelevant to the point. And if that wasn't enough, I really dislike them as they are in terms of morality, or lack thereof, and general ideology. Now onto other species: Geth: I like both the concept and implementation. They are "alien" enough to actually be interesting and stir up some conversations. I didn't like the ME3 "evolution" where by becoming "fully evolved ai" they actually become more human-like, but whatever. Plus the whole silly thing with souls, meh. But Bioware always had a b... umm... thing for religion so not surprising. Salarians: I do like them. The one thing that bothers me is their holier than thou attitude. Uplift this, put it down since it's not working anymore, uplift that, nah, put it down too... A bit too much playing around with other species who can't defend themselves with total disregard to what they want. Also they suffer visually from SHAPS (silly hollywood alien portrayal syndrome), meaning they all look the same. Now I know budgets are a thing, but I still hope to one day see a game where the aliens have variance in their features, just like humans... or other living creatures lol. Turians: Kinda like them too. They seem a bit stiff, and slow to adapt (with their pew pew first mentality) which is never a good sign for an "advanced culture", but eh. Like the salarians, they suffer from shaps. Quarians: meh... but... omg... no shaps!!! Oh wait... Batarians: I don't get how some people like them... Aren't these the aholes who justify slavery as being "part of their culture"? Or am I confusing species here? If they are, than they are nothing short of disgusting and I don't get how someone can explain liking them. Major case of shaps. Hanar: One of the cool species in the ME universe. The fact they are really alien in design (or at least not humanoid, since jellyfish is not exactly alien) is a really big plus for me. Now if only they would make an alien species that is fully "alien-ish" and do a "translation" of emotions and let players work with that in relating to it or whatever, that would be amazing. What I mean by that is this: let's say you have a species of giant spider-like aliens. You then use the lore to explain (translate) various emotions; for example, when they are happy they vibrate their pincers, or their eyes start glowing pink, or etc. You get the idea now. With the hanar they could have easily gone with a bioluminescence approach to this and let players identify what emotions a hanar was displaying in conversation depending on their display. I think that would be a cooler approach to aliens than the old and boring human-body-with-alien-ish-head approach. Do I need to point out shaps this time? Elcor: Again an interesting case. The whole verbal emoting is both hilarious and fascinating. They just need to add in game/lore some of their own language so we can actually be able to tell if an elcor is happy or mad or whatever based on that (like he has his head pointing towards right and downwards, that means this one is sad or whatever lol)... now that would be interesting. Shaps strikes back. Protheans: meh. Again with the whole dominance/slavery thing. Boring and really not likeable in my opinion. Shapstastic. Volus/Drell: Too simplistic and underdeveloped concepts to be anything other than a punchline. Like the hanar actually. Moar shaps.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 14:56:40 GMT
Quarians and Drell, that was an easy pick for me for two, but I had troubles with the third, because it is a split between the Batarians, Turians and Salarians.
Nomadic culture of Quarians, their covered faces, their conflict with Geth - all of it makes me emphasize very much with them. Drells I love solely because I love all things Thane.
Now, Turians, Batarians and Salarians are equally interesting to me, but I felt that they did not have enough exposition on their culture. You could have just guessed what they are like, in broad strokes, but just not enough information in the games and no opportunity to get into the heart of their communities like with the Quarians. I voted Batarians, because they got the least votes out of these three.
Least favorite: Asari and Krogan
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Post by Vortex13 on Dec 19, 2016 15:59:09 GMT
Nobody's mentioned the Thorian? A fungoid species that can 'cure' indoctrination. Why did the plot have to have us kill it again? Between the Thorian being able to remove the effects of indoctrination on organics, and the Rachni being practically immune to it altogether you would think that those two would have been featured more heavily in the Reaper invasion. In a way, those two species posed a greater threat to the Reapers/Catalyst than any other species present in the entire timeline of the galaxy. Aliens that ignore indoctrination, and will likely never ever develop synthetics? Kinda renders their whole galactic 'lab experiment' null and void. The Throian and the Rachni, the true master races of the Milky Way. Of course this is also explains why these two aliens were quickly wiped out, the Reapers can't have anything present that completely refutes their entire purpose for existing. Well, the Thorian was kind of a dead end, considering the kind of payment it took from Saren and the fact that it "cured" Indoctrination by introducing another version of it, relegated it at best to the position of an antagonist. As for the Rachni, considering that the "sour yellow note" triggered the Rachni wars, I don't think that they are immune to indoctrination. The Queen may have had some resistance to its effects, but that's about it probably. I think that the Thorian could have been utilized in a way that didn't necessarily require a newer version of indoctrination. We are shown that an Asari, previously enthralled to Saren Sovereign was completely purged of that control by the inhalation of Thorian spores. If the other species of the galaxy could contain this species; it was evident that Exo-Geni was aware of the dangers and could protect themselves if they wanted so it's not outside the realm of possibility; or find a way to communicate with it, you could effectively create an "indoctrination sterilization system". Just send in groups of people into a room filled with spores, let them free the individuals from any active or latent forms of Reaper control, and then simply remove them from the Thorian's effective radius of control, or in the case of communication being established, ask it to relinquish it's hold on them. Better yet, if the fungoid alien refused to cooperate, the various scientists could simply resort to harvesting the spores and storing them in aerosol format for later use. From what little dialogue and in-game information we have on the Thorian its obvious that it didn't actively want to harm the thralls under it's command; I believe the lore likened it to a craftsman looking after his tools and ensuring their continued function; so at the very least you could be assured that it would treat it's mind controlled population far better than the Reapers would. But more than that, all the Thorian needed thralls for in the first place was protection and to assist it with things it couldn't do itself. If the other species of the galaxy could establish a dialogue with the Thorian and meet it's needs then there wouldn't be any need for it to try and supplant control. And with the threat of extinction at the tentacles of the Reapers should the current cycle fail, what better motivation could you ask for in securing at the very least a temporary truce? As for the Rachni, the "sour yellow note" is implied to be the Reapers, but I believe it was actually the Leviathans behind the Rachni wars. Consider how the Queen, when captured by the Reapers in ME 3, doesn't send her Rachni broods to fight the galaxy at the behest of indoctrination, nor do the Reaper jailers supplant direct control of the army she was growing and then send them en-mass to attack the allied forces. In fact, the only way they could mange the lower caste drones and warriors was by physically implanting them with mind control devices and converting them to Ravengers. On top of this, consider how the Queen, despite being held in captivity for about six months was still of a sound mind able to coherently talk and communicate with Shepard, and then assist the war effort when freed. Compare this to the Salarian STG operatives captured on Virmire who, after only a few days, were reduced to mindless zombies or violently insane lunatics. Surely the Reapers didn't need the Rachni queen to posses higher level thought processes if they were strictly using her as a baby factory, so the fact that her brain wasn't turned to mush after nearly half a year of confinement would lend credence to the fact that the Rachni are effectively immune to the effects of indoctrination, or at the very least, resistant enough to it that they might as well be; especially when compared to all the other species in the galaxy. Now the Leviathans on the other hand, are shown to possess a more 'focused' form of mind control; a laser beam effect compared to the Reaper's shot gun approach if you will. They have demonstrated that they can directly assume full control of any organic species within their area of control (including resident Space Jesus Shepard) so it would make more sense that it was them, not the Reapers that instigated the Rachni Wars. I mean the forces of the galaxy weren't fighting Rachni husks during the conflict so unless the Reapers suddenly lost their effectiveness with indoctrination in ME 3 it would stand to reason that another party was behind the attacks during the Rachni Wars. The fact that the Queen on Noveria is aware of the danger posed by the Reapers, and prepares accordingly (unlike the rest of the galaxy ) could be due to the fact that the Leviathans' control of the Rachni clued them in on their (the Leviathan's) goals. As we see in the ME 3 DLC, controlled individuals still possess their thoughts; they are just a prisoner in their own minds; so its likely that the enthralled queens learned about the Reapers through this, and then once the Leviathans abandoned them at the end of the war, they imparted their knowledge to the last remaining royal egg. EDIT: To add on to this, also consider how Vigil mentions the unattended indoctrinated slaves left by the Reapers from the previous cycle simply died from exposure or starved to death. Once a being has been fully indoctrinated it no longer has a mind or will of it's own. If the Reapers truly were behind the Rachni Wars, then once they relinquished control of their thralls the Rachni would have simply stopped moving; nowhere close to possessing the capability to spirit away a solitary egg in hopes of preserving the species.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Dec 19, 2016 16:56:58 GMT
Nobody's mentioned the Thorian? A fungoid species that can 'cure' indoctrination. Why did the plot have to have us kill it again? Between the Thorian being able to remove the effects of indoctrination on organics, and the Rachni being practically immune to it altogether you would think that those two would have been featured more heavily in the Reaper invasion. In a way, those two species posed a greater threat to the Reapers/Catalyst than any other species present in the entire timeline of the galaxy. Aliens that ignore indoctrination, and will likely never ever develop synthetics? Kinda renders their whole galactic 'lab experiment' null and void. The Throian and the Rachni, the true master races of the Milky Way. Of course this is also explains why these two aliens were quickly wiped out, the Reapers can't have anything present that completely refutes their entire purpose for existing. Forget the thorian supplanting indoctrination, the thing was practically an organic Reaper long before the Leviathans were even a misguided glint in Walters/Hudson's eye. Let's examine the evidence: Indoctrination vs thralldom- both create slaves by altering brain chemistry, thorian through spores, Reapers unknown but nanites or some combo of nanites and EM fields for manipulation make more sense than "magic indoctrination field" Husks vs creepers- extreme zombification, husk are basically tech versions of creepers and vice versa. Aftereffects- both afflictions are permanent and cancel each other out. Indoctrination is more destructive because the Reapers only need temporary tools that expire as opposed to tools with longevity. It's basically planned obsolescence. Plus the thing even looks like a Reaper with the "face" tentacles. You had everything you needed for the Reaper origins right there. And how much more alien (not to mention unique in fiction) would it be if these all-poweful machines were constructed not by animal based life but rather plant? Of course, the fundamental nature of the thorian is so anti-Reaper I can see why they'd want to bury it. As you said, it singlehandedly blows the holokid's nonsense out the window. Oh what's that Leviathans? Can't stop your thralls from creating machines? I can't hear you over the sound of my spores growing on every world. Hell if the Leviathans weren't aquatic I'd expect the spores to work on them too. Yet another missed opportunity- ancient war between Leviathans and thorians, Leviathans develop Reapers because they wouldn't be susceptible to thorian spores. Instantly better than what we got even if you wanted to turn that around and still make it fit "Skynet in Space".
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Post by heathenoxman on Dec 19, 2016 17:10:35 GMT
So, looks like the Turians got the first place. What makes them your favorite? Is it the " Proud Warrior Race" trope? Is it because of Garrus and his VA? Something else? My favorite race is the Turians because who doesn't love bird-lizard men?
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Post by Vortex13 on Dec 19, 2016 17:26:03 GMT
Nobody's mentioned the Thorian? A fungoid species that can 'cure' indoctrination. Why did the plot have to have us kill it again? Between the Thorian being able to remove the effects of indoctrination on organics, and the Rachni being practically immune to it altogether you would think that those two would have been featured more heavily in the Reaper invasion. In a way, those two species posed a greater threat to the Reapers/Catalyst than any other species present in the entire timeline of the galaxy. Aliens that ignore indoctrination, and will likely never ever develop synthetics? Kinda renders their whole galactic 'lab experiment' null and void. The Throian and the Rachni, the true master races of the Milky Way. Of course this is also explains why these two aliens were quickly wiped out, the Reapers can't have anything present that completely refutes their entire purpose for existing. Forget the thorian supplanting indoctrination, the thing was practically an organic Reaper long before the Leviathans were even a misguided glint in Walters/Hudson's eye. Let's examine the evidence: Indoctrination vs thralldom- both create slaves by altering brain chemistry, thorian through spores, Reapers unknown but nanites or some combo of nanites and EM fields for manipulation make more sense than "magic indoctrination field" Husks vs creepers- extreme zombification, husk are basically tech versions of creepers and vice versa. Aftereffects- both afflictions are permanent and cancel each other out. Indoctrination is more destructive because the Reapers only need temporary tools that expire as opposed to tools with longevity. It's basically planned obsolescence. Plus the thing even looks like a Reaper with the "face" tentacles. You had everything you needed for the Reaper origins right there. And how much more alien (not to mention unique in fiction) would it be if these all-poweful machines were constructed not by animal based life but rather plant? Of course, the fundamental nature of the thorian is so anti-Reaper I can see why they'd want to bury it. As you said, it singlehandedly blows the holokid's nonsense out the window. Oh what's that Leviathans? Can't stop your thralls from creating machines? I can't hear you over the sound of my spores growing on every world. Hell if the Leviathans weren't aquatic I'd expect the spores to work on them too. Yet another missed opportunity- ancient war between Leviathans and thorians, Leviathans develop Reapers because they wouldn't be susceptible to thorian spores. Instantly better than what we got even if you wanted to turn that around and still make it fit "Skynet in Space". Damn, you're right that would be a way better source of conflict to base the Reapers around. Leviathan armies of mechanical drones versus the spore addled thralls of the Thorian ultimately resulting in a billion year long crusade with all the other species of the galaxy caught in the middle. Just another reason why (IMO) ME 1 was the best of the trilogy. You don't have aliens quite as unique and well 'alien' in subsequent tiles (with the minor exception of the Geth in ME 2). It's really sad when, narratively speaking, all of these decidedly non-human elements were rounded up and led out behind the barn so we could have more room for our human "daddy issues" and the like.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 17:53:35 GMT
So, looks like the Turians got the first place. What makes them your favorite? Is it the " Proud Warrior Race" trope? Is it because of Garrus and his VA? Something else? I started liking Turians a lot after a quest for Turian Platoon and Bomb on Tuchanka in ME3. I guess a bit more of 'humanizing' helped me there. I don't find Garrus or his voice emotion stirring, on the contrary, I find it pleasantly bland. I also find the Warrior-races on the whole unappealing.
So, I guess, I started favoring Turians fairly late, after I saw that they have more to them than the Guy-with-the-biggest-sword-who-kills-the-most-enemies-whoever-they-are worship.
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Post by Liadan on Dec 19, 2016 21:39:14 GMT
Favorites: Human, Salarians and Turian.
Least favorite: Vorcha and Geth
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Post by Lady Artifice on Dec 19, 2016 21:44:11 GMT
My favorites are quarians, turians, and humans.
My least favorite are hanar.
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Post by KamenRyder on Dec 19, 2016 21:47:14 GMT
I'm surprised but pleased to see humans make second place.
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Post by Lady Artifice on Dec 19, 2016 21:57:48 GMT
So, looks like the Turians got the first place. What makes them your favorite? Is it the " Proud Warrior Race" trope? Is it because of Garrus and his VA? Something else? I like their design, and their voices. I also think the "proud warrior race" thing is often overstated as a stereotype. Mass Effect seems to me to try very hard to avoid utilizing the planet of hats trope too much. There's an array of criminals, businessmen, soldiers, cops, and mercenaries standing out amongst the Turians we encounter. They might have a specific reputation amongst the other species, but the universe adequately convinces me that they see themselves as a lot more diverse. That said, my favorite Turian character tend to go against type, as in they're more charismatic and smooth talking than stoic. A character like Lorik Qui'in or the Turian con artist we meet in the citadel DLC would basically be my perfect Turian companion. Similarly, my favorite Quarian companion would be more of a ruthless and calculating type, in contrast with the vulnerable underdogs the species is more like given to portray.
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Post by Xerxes52 on Dec 19, 2016 23:13:23 GMT
My favorites: Humans, Turians, Asari.
My least favorite: Elcor, Vorcha, Hanar.
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 19, 2016 23:23:55 GMT
I'm disappointed, but unsurprised, to see the quarians beat out the salarians, and even the krogan, in this poll. Maybe MEA will give the salarians some long overdue time in the spotlight. ME3 handled them very poorly.
Some time away from the quarians would be most welcome, as well. A few individuals would be fine, but the absence of the Migrant Fleet is most pleasing. I found myself resenting their species' stupidity by the end of ME3. I need a break.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Dec 20, 2016 1:34:39 GMT
Surprising to see Quarians do so well. Is it because they aren't hostile towards any specific organic race? Could it be the dope custom suits?
Garrus won the thread for Turians.
Didn't expect to see Asari suck
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Post by spacev3gan on Dec 20, 2016 3:33:51 GMT
Geth and Quarian. Because vegan races. Enough said.
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Post by Lavochkin on Dec 20, 2016 7:28:45 GMT
The Vorcha getting the least amount of votes makes me sad. It's my dream to turn them into a human auxiliary/client race that will build colonies for us, mine in inhospitable environments that they can easily adapt to and act as auxiliary troops. Man prospering with his real best friend, the Vorcha, make it so Bioware.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 16:12:46 GMT
Didn't expect to see Asari suck If humans weren't in the poll they'd probably be in third, which sounds about right. Why are humans an option in the poll, for that matter? Isn't the thread about which are the most & least popular alien species? The poll title should have either read Favorite and Least Favorite Species, and included humans as an option, or kept the title it currently has but not included humans as an option. If the intent was to gauge the favorite and least favorite alien species among the people posting here, the inclusion of humans skews the results.
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Post by silverhaku on Dec 20, 2016 20:40:29 GMT
Didn't expect to see Asari suck If humans weren't in the poll they'd probably be in third, which sounds about right. Why are humans an option in the poll, for that matter? Isn't the thread about which are the most & least popular alien species? The poll title should have either read Favorite and Least Favorite Species, and included humans as an option, or kept the title it currently has but not included humans as an option. If the intent was to gauge the favorite and least favorite alien species among the people posting here, the inclusion of humans skews the results. I Posted This In The Wrong Forums Area, So to add Andromeda Relavance a Mod had to add "Humans" Since we are the aliens in ME:A
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