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Post by maximusarael020 on Jan 8, 2017 22:24:41 GMT
So.... Some people like The Witcher 3. Some people think TW3 is better than Mass Effect and/or Dragon Age. Others think TW3 is awful or simply mediocre. And I think there was one person out there who actually liked both Dragon Age: Inquisition and TW3. 😵😵😵😵 So I propose that this thread be the place where those people who want to duke it out about which is better go here instead of derailing other threads with the "CDPR vs. Bioware" debate.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2017 22:30:30 GMT
On a serious note, I have a feeling (and I'm hoping it's right) that ME:A will be somewhat of a Witcher 3 in space.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 8, 2017 22:34:57 GMT
Can there NOT be fan wars please?
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Post by iskaman1993 on Jan 8, 2017 22:56:20 GMT
Mass Effect and The Witcher are both great.
My only expirience with Dragon Age was Inquisition, which was fun but nowhere near the level of ME or TW3.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 8, 2017 23:00:38 GMT
This therad would be best served by being in the off topic section really and keep the main sections discussing Bioware's current work clear. As for which is better that's a point of view which I can't really discuss as I've not played the Witcher 3 yet I have played Witcher 1 however though based on my experience with that I have to admit I prefer the DA series mostly because I prefer team based combat rather than solo based combat. But that's just my preference atm. I do hasve the Witcher 3 in my Steam library I've just not got around to playing it I do plan to but that's likely not going to happen until after MEA drops now. Because I've got a DAI run on the go atm. I've got personal things to deal with regarding my health at the end of the month as well as I havean appointment with a wheelchair clinic and an MRI scan due on my foot which may also lead to an operation so that in itself could put me out of action a bit so once I've finished my current DAI run I'll likrely just stick with the ME trilogy for the forseeable future and see what happen next afterwards
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Post by colfoley on Jan 8, 2017 23:01:57 GMT
I loved dai. I loved witcher 3. Dai gets a slight edge.
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Post by slimgrin on Jan 8, 2017 23:02:35 GMT
This was getting old before they shut down the BSN.
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Post by SofNascimento on Jan 8, 2017 23:06:22 GMT
The only Mass Effect game better than TW3 is ME2, although I take the whole trilogy over it any day. Mass Effect is just too special.
When comparing to Dragon Age, TW3 is just plain superior to all three, although that degree of superioty is smaller in some aspects and in a few of them DA can be better than TW3.
Many people when they bring up TW3 in a discussion about Andromeda is not to say TW3 is better than this or that, but to highlight some of that game qualities that Bioware should take notice. Mainly graphics and world building. Because the rest Bioware, one time of the other, have done just as well or better.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jan 8, 2017 23:10:15 GMT
This therad would be best served by being in the off topic section really and keep the main sections discussing Bioware's current work clear. True. However if it was in the "off-topic" section then the people derailing threads in this section currently wouldn't see it and will continue derailing threads in this section.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 8, 2017 23:19:20 GMT
It's not a bad idea for a thread but the off-topic section would be better. I'll leave a link in case anyone wants to join in. Oh, if anyone wants to derail other threads, we now have a handy place for the moderators to move those posts to, thanks very much.
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Post by Blast Processor on Jan 8, 2017 23:51:23 GMT
Oh, Hi Dutch. I thought I'd just get it out of the way.
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Post by shechinah on Jan 9, 2017 0:19:45 GMT
Oh, Hi Dutch. I thought I'd just get it out of the way. Traditions are important.
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Post by DalishRanger on Jan 9, 2017 1:03:18 GMT
I liked both DAI and TW3, though I'll admit the fan wars kept me from the Witcher for a while. I personally prefer DAI, but I think the Witcher does a lot of things well, particularly side quests and hair graphics (well, graphics in general but I was most impressed by the hair/beards, which I find are really lacking in quality in BioWare titles).
(And by Witcher, I mean exclusively TW3. I was never interested in 1 and I tried to play 2, but I hated the combat so much I stopped playing it after maybe an hour. Might try it again with a controller instead of a keyboard/mouse, like I did with TW3 and DAI)
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Post by Warrick on Jan 9, 2017 4:23:05 GMT
Bioware ex-fans angry at gay romances made me wary of this one in a way it might not deserve. They used this game to get back at Bioware. They would go to the BSN, criticize something, then over to the witcher forums and gloat about how much Bioware sucked.
I started the third one but didn't get very far.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Jan 9, 2017 4:46:53 GMT
Simply put, the Witcher 3 is a superior game to DAI. Besides the difference in gameplay and character customization the Witcher 3 hands-down destroys every single aspect of every dragon age game though I still hold DAO dear to my heart.
The Witcher 3 is a western AAA RPG done right. Bioware needs to take note. Cinematic conversations with your personal input was neglected by Bioware in ME3 save for the most important plot oriented parts of the game. In contrast, tw3 had Geralt shooting the shit with an old lady complaining about wolves stealing her chickens, one insignificant side quest had more cinematic dialogue/conversation scenes than every mass Effect 3 or DAI side quest. I want MEA to have cinematic conversations like TW3 and the previous me titles.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Jan 9, 2017 4:48:41 GMT
Simply put, the Witcher 3 is a superior game to DAI. Besides the difference in gameplay and character customization the Witcher 3 hands-down destroys every single aspect of every dragon age game though I still hold DAO dear to my heart. The Witcher 3 is a western AAA RPG done right. Bioware needs to take note. Cinematic conversations with your personal input was neglected by Bioware in ME3 save for the most important plot oriented parts of the game. In contrast, tw3 had Geralt shooting the shit with an old lady complaining about wolves stealing her chickens, one insignificant side quest had more cinematic dialogue/conversations scene than every mass Effect 3 or DAI side quest. I want MEA to have cinematic conversations like TW3 and the previous me titles.
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Post by dragontartare on Jan 9, 2017 4:56:57 GMT
Bioware ex-fans angry at gay romances made me wary of this one in a way it might not deserve. They used this game to get back at Bioware. They would go to the BSN, criticize something, then over to the witcher forums and gloat about how much Bioware sucked. I started the third one but didn't get very far. I wasn't at the old forums and haven't been to any Witcher 3 forums, so I am untainted by this ex-fan suckiness Give W3 a shot. And my reply to the thread itself, there are things I like about both (I've only just started ME2, so I don't count MET in this). I see no reason to go to "war" over it, though maybe that's naive of me considering we are on the internet. I am guilty of making W3 comparisons in BW threads, but it's because I feel that Dragon Age deserves the best. It's already excellent, so why not learn from things that other games have done well? Things I prefer about Dragon Age:Hawke Customizable PCs The ability to play as other races (though I hope DA4 goes deeper with this) Variety of romance options Companions to drag with you everywhere Party banter Combat can be paused More ways to play the games differently, more paths to take, and so more reasons to play over and over again Weapon and armor crafting Things I prefer about Witcher 3:Graphics in general, and hair in particular Day/night cycle and weather Cities actually feel alive; Novigrad >>> Kirkwall > Denerim > Redcliffe >>> Val Royeaux More side quests actually have an effect on the world or are connected more to the main plot Main story is "personal" rather than "world saving" until the very end (much like DA2, actually, which is my favorite DA game) Cinematic dialogues, and lots of them
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Post by DalishRanger on Jan 9, 2017 6:32:31 GMT
Things I prefer about Dragon Age:Hawke Customizable PCs The ability to play as other races (though I hope DA4 goes deeper with this) Variety of romance options Companions to drag with you everywhere Party banter Combat can be paused More ways to play the games differently, more paths to take, and so more reasons to play over and over again Weapon and armor crafting Things I prefer about Witcher 3:Graphics in general, and hair in particular Day/night cycle and weather Cities actually feel alive; Novigrad >>> Kirkwall > Denerim > Redcliffe >>> Val Royeaux More side quests actually have an effect on the world or are connected more to the main plot Main story is "personal" rather than "world saving" until the very end (much like DA2, actually, which is my favorite DA game) Cinematic dialogues, and lots of them I more or less agree with those comparisons, save for perhaps cinematic dialogues. Well, more accurately, I do like that there's more of them in TW3 but each game and budget are different, and if for BioWare games fewer cinematic conversations means more dialogue overall, I'm okay with that. Ideal would of course be majority cinematic when possible. I'm also a fan of the more personal stories. World/galaxy saving arcs are fun, but personal arcs have great potential for better player investment if done right. It's partly why Baldur's Gate II remained my favorite game until Dragon Age: Origins, and it's one of the main things I loved about DA2. I do hope BioWare explores more of these in the future. Perhaps we'll see some of that in MEA what with the family connections.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 9, 2017 8:24:48 GMT
DA I did better then the Witcher: Protagonist Antagonist Characters in general. Main Plot. Music. Sense of Setting. Sense of history. Theme
Things Withcer did better then DA I: Combat Graphics (its a newer game so duh.) Side Quests. interconnectivity of the universe
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Post by xetykins on Jan 9, 2017 10:28:31 GMT
Bioware ex-fans angry at gay romances made me wary of this one in a way it might not deserve. They used this game to get back at Bioware. They would go to the BSN, criticize something, then over to the witcher forums and gloat about how much Bioware sucked. I started the third one but didn't get very far. That's a very narrow way of looking at it. I am a straight fem gamer who absolutely loves Dorian, but disappointed with DAI over all. The specifics has been rehashed too many times to say them again. Also, I actually finished both games so I am entitled to a subjective opinion on the whys.
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Post by SofNascimento on Jan 9, 2017 10:32:33 GMT
DA I did better then the Witcher: Sense of Setting. Sense of history. I disagree strongly with these two, or at least the first one. DAI's idea of stablishing a setting is basically one: written codex entries. Everywhere you go there is multiple texts detailing what you're seeing and what is happening. If the texts matched what was shown, I would just say they are unnecesssary and inelegant, but the whole thing becomes problematic when the texts do no match what is shown. The templars/mage war in the Hinterlands, for example: you have multiple codex entries saying how atrocities are being commited, and how terrible it is, and how people are suffering. Do you see that? Not really. For us, that conflict is a few fetch quests and some enemies in the map. Not to mention, some of these codex are really badly written and make little sense (writing a journal entry when the house around you is burning is not the best of ideas). Val Royeaux is the same, only worse. It's a lifeless and simple looking city. But you cannot walk 5 meters without finding a codex entry saying how the generic place you just saw is unique and glorious and full of life. Novigrad in TW3 on the other hand wasn't a big city because you read it was, but because you could see it. It wasn't a city full of violence and turmoil because you read it, but because you could experience that first hand. And so on.
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Post by wolfsite on Jan 9, 2017 12:40:49 GMT
Ya threads like these never end well.
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Post by degs29 on Jan 9, 2017 14:40:36 GMT
I loved dai. I loved witcher 3. Dai gets a slight edge. I loved DA:I. I loved TW3. TW3 gets the slight edge for me. Both have flaws, but both are incredible overall games. DA:I's story, characters and writing didn't quite grab me the way TW3's did. Considering those are Bioware staples, I was surprised. CDPR just did an incredible job with writing spread across their entire game. I enjoyed the gameplay in DA:I more than I did TW3's at launch. TW3 is better now with patches, to the point where it's pretty even. Which gives TW3 the nod because of its writing. With regards to Mass Effect, they're too dissimilar to do a direct comparison. I immensely enjoyed both. I mean holy crap, all three of these series are awesome!
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Post by degs29 on Jan 9, 2017 14:43:47 GMT
DA I did better then the Witcher: Protagonist Antagonist Characters in general. Main Plot. Music. Sense of Setting. Sense of history. Theme Things Withcer did better then DA I: Combat Graphics (its a newer game so duh.) Side Quests. interconnectivity of the universe Saying DA:I did a better protagonist is kind of unfair! lol Geralt is an established character, the Inquisitor is you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 15:25:54 GMT
I don't play games with the locked in protagonist. While Shepard is very distinctive character, s/he still takes a lot of player input and the game changes accordingly. Dragon Age series are okay, but for me are not novel enough, and too much like what came before. Still, they are very well made, and allow a lot of character customization, so I like them okay, for a single play-through. I also love MP mode in ME3. So, all and all, Mass Effect is my favorite out of the three, and I am going to wait to try CD project games till they release their next title with a customizable character. I also kind of get the impression that the CD project carries a bit of that old boys club attitude into their games that I won't like. I am happy with what comes out of the pandering to the SJW.
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