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Post by Natashina on Jan 18, 2017 18:22:43 GMT
Women's opinions don't count? Damn dude. Look, I know you're probably one of the most embittered fans on the forums. I don't agree with you most of the time, but you notice that I've always been polite. Even on the old forums. You've always been very direct and blunt, but you usually don't pull that card. Don't be that guy. SJW, fine, whatever. But invalidating an entire gender if they disagree? You're better than this. I've been reading your posts for over 3 years now, back when you were just Dutch. Knock it off. Look around here. I haven't seen anyone, male, female or other call DA:I a perfect game. You can love a game and still recognize that's it's far from perfect.
As far as your post goes, many of us have been talking about it for years with you. We obviously aren't going to change your mind. You think DA:I is garbage. Okay and (no sarcasm) I'm sorry to hear that. Not because of my own opinion about it, but because I've been there. Spending $60-$120(ish) on a game and it turning out to be a letdown sucks balls. I've got my Collector's Edition of World of Warcraft Cataclysm, and my copies of FFXII and FFXIII collecting dust on various shelves. What a waste.
Where you lost me is when you mention playing over 300 hours. It sounds like you tried at least one of each class. I can't fathom doing that with a game I hated. I left mid-way through the Cata expansion because I hated it. I got about 20 hours into FFXII and literally 1 hour into FFXIII before I about threw the controller across the room.
But hey, at least you have an informed opinion. That wasn't my experience, but I'm not going to "prove you wrong." That's not my place and frankly Dutch, you've made it clear that you aren't going to change your mind. That's fine by me and I can respect your point of view.
All that I would ask (other than obeying the rules, ect) is that you're straight with us. You don't want to us to "prove you wrong." You want a debate. If that's what you'd like, just say so.
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Post by xerrai on Jan 18, 2017 18:28:32 GMT
You can't prove yourself right either. Or at least, not to anyone other than yourself. Opinions by their nature are subjective, and despite your claims of "objective" elements in you post, that entire OP is loaded with nothing but subjectivity with close to no objectivity once so ever. Game review sites, Oscar reviewers and movie critics tend to get criticized for the same thing. Though the main difference is that they at least try to see from other points of view. While there is some part of me that simply loves DAI despite its flaws, there is simply no use debating or conversing about it with someone who has already made up their mind and seemingly has no intention to have an actual discussion about it.
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Post by thats1evildude on Jan 18, 2017 18:29:24 GMT
Look, I know you're probably one of the most embittered fans on the forums. Somehow I doubt it.
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Post by TheGodlyFist on Jan 18, 2017 18:42:51 GMT
Look, I know you're probably one of the most embittered fans on the forums. Somehow I doubt it. Seems pretty accurate to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 19:34:13 GMT
Story: DAO>DA2>DAA>DAI Gameplay: DA2>DAI>DAO=DAA Side activities: DAI>DAO>DA2>DAA Environments : DAI>DAO>DAA>DA2 Characters: DAO>DAI>DAA>DA2 Protagonist: DAO=DAA>DA2>DAI My overall opinion: DAO>DAI>DA2>DAA I know awakening is an expansion but it had so much content I had to take it as a seperate game >DAI does Side activities best My sides! There are shitload of side activities in DAI and most of them are meaningful despite the conrary belief (I'm not including shard collecting and star connecting of course)
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Post by Crim on Jan 18, 2017 19:51:55 GMT
Women's opinions don't count? Damn dude. Look, I know you're probably one of the most embittered fans on the forums. I don't agree with you most of the time, but you notice that I've always been polite. Even on the old forums. You've always been very direct and blunt, but you usually don't pull that card.
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Post by Natashina on Jan 18, 2017 20:02:11 GMT
Crim D'aww, love you too.
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Women's opinions don't count? Damn dude.
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Post by Natashina on Jan 18, 2017 20:11:56 GMT
Did you know that Stockard Channing (Rizzo) was 33 when she did Grease? I'm used to adults playing teenagers, but talk about a stretch. /offtopic.
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Post by correctamundo on Jan 18, 2017 20:22:22 GMT
Did you know that Stockard Channing (Rizzo) was 33 when she did Grease? I'm used to adults playing teenagers, but talk about a stretch. /offtopic. No, but suspected as much. I have a hard time picturing "MR Latierri" as a teenager as well. I had to lok it up and Tucci was 32 . Still love that movie!
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Post by phoray on Jan 18, 2017 20:32:08 GMT
Crim D'aww, love you too. I know right? I never thought I'd have a favorite Troll but s/he is high quality troll. I mean, s/he doesn't ALWAYS troll. It's like, they dance around the line. On one side one day, and actually having a real conversation the next.
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Post by pdusen on Jan 18, 2017 20:44:48 GMT
Hi, Dutch.
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Post by opuspace on Jan 18, 2017 21:28:09 GMT
I miss when wolfsite used to do that. The rabbit avatar always had me cracking up because it fit so well with the greeting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 22:37:42 GMT
The combat is mmoish tier and pacing is mmo tier. Combat is a tier above most MMOs though, just for the simple fact that the game was made with Frostbite Pacing is mmo tier doesn't mean anything. Plenty of SP games have similar pacing, I'm not sure what you're saying there Besides, some korean MMOs are really getting up there in terms of combat, like dragon dogma online and that kind of stuff is pretty much getting on par with offline games Overall, I would agree that there are many downfalls when compared to, say, Witcher 3 in terms of environments, or even story, not that I care about that stuff anyway. Fetch quests is also a good point. I haven't even finished SP yet because it got too boring IMO
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jan 19, 2017 2:26:11 GMT
Dutch's Ghost sighting!!!
Man, where have you been? You used to set fire to the BSN forum at least twice a day. Look, some of your post titles from yesteryear:
A racist protagonist?
MEA will be a 150 hour game (And half of that time will be dedicated to collecting resources like in DAI)
Just strip out Romances
It's not Fox News that's shaming Bioware from showing nude women in Sex scenes...it's the feminists and SJWs
It got to the point where, "Not to be a Dutch's Ghost or anything ..." became an apology for saying something that might seem histrionic or inflammatory.
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Post by pdusen on Jan 19, 2017 3:30:41 GMT
Dutch's Ghost sighting!!! Man, where have you been? You used to set fire to the BSN forum at least twice a day. Look, some of your post titles from yesteryear: A racist protagonist?MEA will be a 150 hour game (And half of that time will be dedicated to collecting resources like in DAI) Just strip out RomancesIt's not Fox News that's shaming Bioware from showing nude women in Sex scenes...it's the feminists and SJWsIt got to the point where, "Not to be a Dutch's Ghost or anything ..." became an apology for saying something that might seem histrionic or inflammatory. He's been in the MEA forum, doing what Dutch does.
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Post by cooldude on Jan 19, 2017 6:31:13 GMT
DAI is inferior to DAO. DA2 sucks. You pretty much spend the entire game going back and forth to the same locations.
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Post by shechinah on Jan 19, 2017 12:00:51 GMT
It's not Fox News that's shaming Bioware from showing nude women in Sex scenes...it's the feminists and SJWs Oh, I wonder if I forgot about that one.
We've had nude women in sex scenes as recently as Dragon Age: Inquisition, you know, the game that, according to dutchsghost7, only feminists, SJWs and women allegedly think is perfect. By that logic, feminists and SJWs wouldn't be shaming Bioware for featuring nudity of the female nature: they'd be considered it to be part of the perfection because allegedly this game is completely perfect in their eyes.
In general, I have to say that I don't get this criticism: both of the series have only become more willing to show nudity in a sexual context. As far as I can see, there is little to no reason to worry.
Example from Dragon Age: Inquisition:
Example from Mass Effect 3:
Note: do anyone wonder if this really is Dutch's Ghost and not just someone keeping the tradition alive? Oh well
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Post by Tarkus on Jan 20, 2017 7:04:13 GMT
If you're so right, then why are you a ghost?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 7:18:58 GMT
If you're so right, then why are you a ghost? His sex life killed him. Masochists, some of them take their kink too far.
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Post by thats1evildude on Jan 20, 2017 8:04:22 GMT
He died of radiation poisoning from the nuclear explosion at the end of Predator.
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Post by disi on Jan 20, 2017 8:32:09 GMT
I currently prepare for a third attempt to play this through Having played DA:O and DA2 several times, I did play DA:I at release and spent overall 160h in the game but never finished (that is nearly ME1,2,3 twice). In its early stages it was rough, Mantle worked great on my AMD card, Nvidia (DirectX) users were complaining. This left a negative touch to it that never really faded in terms of stability. The conversations were distant and non-personal except for the main quest cutscenes. This made me feel everything non-main-quest is boring and time-sink. It felt like 90% of the game you do random tasks and 10% of the game is beefy story-content. Second attempt I made it to get the keep and since Mantle support was dropped I had to switch to DirectX, now I was crashing at several places in the game. In the end I couldn't enter some cave on that island with lots of water around or the game would crash the German version (English was fine). This made me stop back then. Now a third attempt and I'll play full English again, for stability purposes (last played Sep 2015). The tavern songs are great! The music in general is great! I don't mind the gameplay. Sera is great! Cassandra is great! Many others are great too. With all the side-content the main story grows distant. Many of the side quests are huge and long, it made me forget why I am doing this. Sometimes these games need time to mature. With post-release DLC, which then needs to mature as well, and mods, those games become much more enjoyable.
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Post by Gileadan on Jan 20, 2017 8:57:49 GMT
I may end up regretting this, but I'll give it a shot. I don't think you can objectively call DAI garbage. The reason is quite simple - because competent effort has been put into it. It has beautiful landscapes, it gives you a lot of content for your money, you are free to create your own character, and has high standard writing and voice acting. You may hate every design decision, every aspect of gameplay, you may dislike every character and the entire plot, but that doesn't mean the game is garbage, it simply means that it's not to your taste. Garbage are games that crash all over the place and/or have extremely low quality assets. Shit like Line of Defense, a game so crap that Steam even pulled it from early access because they got tired of all the refund requests may qualify as garbage. DAI certainly doesn't. Personally, I think the word "garbage" is an insult to the time and effort the dev studio put in to create their game. It's a word that should be reserved for truly extreme cases of low quality products. Of course DAI is not flawless, but then again, no game is. I certainly (sadly) don't own any flawless game, as much as I'd love to. DAI has several aspects that I really don't like, and some where I think that the quality is indeed not top notch, but I still played the game to the end, bought all its DLC and played that too, so certainly quite a few things were done right. And please, from the Witcher fan boy in me: stop making us look bad by hitting other games and their fans with the Witcher club. I don't like it when someone makes me look bad. You know what happened at the end of my DA2 playthrough? My mage Hawke sided with the templars because he felt that all those crazy mage nincompoops had made him and every sane mage look really bad. Don't be a Kirkwall mage.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jan 20, 2017 9:34:51 GMT
You don t like the game, that's good, you think it is garbage that's acceptable. Yet you are on a hardcore fan forum wanting to discuss it. You spend more time for it. I had a similar relationship with Da2 and it was in 3rd playthrough it realy grew in me. I think now that Da2 is the best in the series (ofcourse it is rushed as fuck though)
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