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Post by PCthug on Jan 27, 2017 1:10:22 GMT
If you could pick the background for our future PC's what would you choose? I'd love to hear your ideas. Mine are below:
Humans We’ve been able to play as some form of a Noble for the whole series so far. If we're headed to Tevinter, I would be in favor of that continuing if it meant not just mages but warriors and rogues were also from a Tevinter Noble family. Surely Tevinter's got a few squibs knocking around.
Avvar. JoH made me love the lore on these guys. Also the “Abernache over Under" war table mission is hilarious. Bonus: mages wouldn’t need a distinct background. And If we can't be one then I hope we get one as a companion.
Elves Just gimme my city elves again.
Dwarf I have a feeling we'll be some kind of surface dwarf again, though I'd rather we were Legion of the Dead (and I have no idea how that would work) or from the Ambassadoria.
Qunari This one is tough. Vashoth mercenary didn’t really work for me in DAI, even though I can see it’s probably the most accessible to new players. Maybe have us go a step further and be Tal-Vashoth and then let us decide we we left the Qun.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 27, 2017 1:23:18 GMT
I would love, love, LOVE an Avvar origin for human PCs. I also think it's extremely unlikely, given that the Avvar are mostly down South (though... I did exile the goat-thrower's clan to Tevinter's border). It's a shame, because this is pretty much the only human protagonist I'd be psyched to play. I think it's much more likely that we'll end up with another noble, either being a mage from an ambitious family... or their sad-sap, mundane redheaded step-child.
I could see a qunari or elf PC being an ex-slave or servant. Possibly even born into slavery. Though I think it'd be interesting to be a Laetan elf, struggling for recognition?
Dwarves I can definitely see coming from the Ambassadoria. With all those underground embassies and ancient ties to Tevinter, there are undoubtedly thousands of traditional dwarven families in or near Tevinter.
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Post by lobselvith8 on Jan 27, 2017 2:22:22 GMT
If you could pick the background for our future PC's what would you choose? I'd love to hear your ideas. Elf: Dalish (I prefer the variation from Andrastian that comes with the human background). Dwarf: A dwarf from the Ambassadoria (perhaps we could delve more into the dwarven faith of the Stone). Qunari: Tal-Vashoth, as opposed to Vashoth ('the enemy of my enemy' is the kind of mentality that could make it work).
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 27, 2017 2:36:44 GMT
I'd also love to play an Avvar, but I'm just as skeptical of that happening. They would be an awesome contrast to Tevinter society, but the dialogue and cultural references would all have to be there in order for it to work. A more likely hope would be to have an Avvar companion - especially if it's a mage. Their spirit relationships were fantastic lore-wise.
As far as what I'd want to see for a protag, I want to give it a little more thought first...
(If only we could have Origin stories again!)
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Post by Lazarillo on Jan 27, 2017 2:37:00 GMT
While this might not be exactly what's being asked for, the background I'd like to see the most is "a multi-purpose one". One of Inquisition's biggest flaws was how near non-existent the Inquisitor's character was, due to how many different backgrounds the writers had to account for. Unless the developers want to go back to silent protagonists, I don't really think there's a way to reconcile characterization with a wide variety of available backgrounds.
At the same time, I understand, and agree with, the desire for a great degree of customization, so something that can fit a single background that can fit wide variety of is the type I want to see most. The idea of someone raised in slavery in DA4, for example, or perhaps, similarly, an orphan of any race taken in by one of the various yet-unexplored cultural factions: the Fog Warriors, the Chasind, etc.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 27, 2017 2:45:11 GMT
While this might not be exactly what's being asked for, the background I'd like to see the most is "a multi-purpose one". One of Inquisition's biggest flaws was how near non-existent the Inquisitor's character was, due to how many different backgrounds the writers had to account for. Unless the developers want to go back to silent protagonists, I don't really think there's a way to reconcile characterization with a wide variety of available backgrounds. At the same time, I understand, and agree with, the desire for a great degree of customization, so something that can fit a single background that can fit wide variety of is the type I want to see most. The idea of someone raised in slavery in DA4, for example, or perhaps, similarly, an orphan of any race taken in by one of the various yet-unexplored cultural factions: the Fog Warriors, the Chasind, etc. As a multipurpose background, a prison break from Aeonar would be really, really cool... considering everyone mysteriously vanished from there recently.
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Jan 27, 2017 3:18:32 GMT
I would like to play as a Spanish protagonist,preferably from Madrid.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Jan 27, 2017 3:42:39 GMT
Just give me an Ambassadoria dwarf and I'll be happy! Don't mind what the other origins are, although I'd prefer a non-Dalish elf this time around for variety's sake.
An Avvar human origin would be awesome, but I agree that this is probably not the game where it's going to happen. Maybe Dragon Age 5 ...
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Post by PCthug on Jan 27, 2017 4:21:46 GMT
Ah, I know an Avvar background is a longshot but I thought I'd put it out there. Because they're awesome I think it's much more likely that we'll end up with another noble, either being a mage from an ambitious family... or their sad-sap, mundane redheaded step-child.This legit made me cackle (If only we could have Origin stories again!) That would help enormously since a lot of backgrounds I think up could be confusing to brand new players. I thought the origins were great at bringing the player up to speed on the various factions. While this might not be exactly what's being asked for, the background I'd like to see the most is "a multi-purpose one". One of Inquisition's biggest flaws was how near non-existent the Inquisitor's character was, due to how many different backgrounds the writers had to account for. Unless the developers want to go back to silent protagonists, I don't really think there's a way to reconcile characterization with a wide variety of available backgrounds. At the same time, I understand, and agree with, the desire for a great degree of customization, so something that can fit a single background that can fit wide variety of is the type I want to see most. The idea of someone raised in slavery in DA4, for example, or perhaps, similarly, an orphan of any race taken in by one of the various yet-unexplored cultural factions: the Fog Warriors, the Chasind, etc. I would not be opposed to this idea! I did love DA2 and my Hawke's, which all have the same basic background. A single multi-purpose one might even allow us to have something like an "origin" prequel again. That said, I'd still like some variation depending on the class & race.
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Post by fylimar on Jan 27, 2017 23:20:27 GMT
Dwarves: I like my castless dwarf back, but surface dwarf is ok too, if they give a bit more detail to the background. I'm generally not a big fan of the noble background, but if it is done well, I would try it. Elves: Big Dalish fan here, so of course I like them back. It's a bit more different from the Andrastian elves, but again, I like my elf talk elven language more often and refer to her/his culture - that is the whole point of an exotic culture. I like city elves too, maybe we can have both variations again Humans: Not a noble again, it's so boring. And I would like to play some other culture, like Rivaini or Chasind for example (the mage could be a Rivaini seer)- a bit more adventurous and non-Andrastian. Humans are the most boring for me, so I need some kind of exotic background. I didn't play JoH so far, so I don't know that much about Avvar, only what you get from playing Fallow Mire and dealing with the goat throwing guy. They seem to be a bit heavy on the body painting, more than that, I can not say, so I have no opinion tehre (although Avvar seem to be very popular here ) I have no opinion about Qunari, because I don't play that race Generally, whatever route they take, I would prefer a bit more background and a bit more diversity in language and behavior for the protagonist (and I want my elf to have a welsh accent - one of the few thing, I really loved about Merril)
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Post by tigress on Jan 28, 2017 2:00:27 GMT
I don't think we'll ever see another Origin type Dragon Age where we can actually play through different opening chapters but... IF we ever got that ability again, I'd love to not focus so much on different races but different nationalities. Tevinter, Orlais, Ravain, Antiva, Nevarra, Seheron, the Anderfels... ah... the fun we could have.
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Post by Blaze on Jan 31, 2017 14:11:31 GMT
well origin story would be nice, but i'm fine with same prologue for every background and race. however, i would like to have the option to choose BOTH the race and the background of our char =D all species:slave - if we will indeed be in tevinter i think it's given that we can be a slave. and there is no restriction about it, slaves with magic ability are still slaves. qunari - not the species, the religion, we haven't got to play one yet and hey, every species can be part of the qun. human:i think no ferelden and no noble goes without saying. though if the options are there along with different background i wouldn't mind class specific:thief - come on, you know you want to (rogues naturally) =D dwarves: kal sharok dwarf, we played an orzammar dwarf, both casteless and noble. would be nice to see first hand the calture of the kal-sharok dwarves that's all i got for now, for elves i think dalish is out of the question if we in tevinter, or vry unlikely at least.
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Post by Heimdall on Jan 31, 2017 15:36:14 GMT
Off the top of my head, I want to play a qunari ex-slave who was captured from a Qunari settlement on Seheron at a young age. Their personal side quest could involve meeting their old Tamasran or something.
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Post by Jarovbees on Jan 31, 2017 19:36:53 GMT
Normally, I'd be tired of the nobility background by now, but since Tevinter is very different from the rest of Thedas, I'd love to see things from the Altus perspective. Laetan or Liberati would also definitely appeal to me, too. (I play a lot of mages, can you tell?)
Other backgrounds I'd go for: City Elf, Tal-Vashoth, Rivaini seer, Fog Warrior from Seheron.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 31, 2017 20:22:07 GMT
Playing or befriending a Fog Warrior who survived Fenris's Danarius-sponsored attack? Hooo boy, I'm ready.
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Post by leadintea on Jan 31, 2017 20:42:14 GMT
I really just want an Altus option so I can be an insufferable prick to others, especially the help, commoners and elves.
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Post by Nyx on Feb 1, 2017 0:30:06 GMT
I'm assuming we're going to be going to Tevinter so I've taken that into consideration:
Human Warrior / Rogue Member of a poorer, Soporati-class family, commoners because they don't have magic in their line. We'd finally get to have a common human origin.
Human Mage Member of an established, well-respected Altus or Laetans family. Only mages get to be nobility.
Elven Warrior / Rogue Slave to an Altus family. Treated horribly, probably has to escape a blood magic ritual.
Elven Mage Apprenticed to a magister, kinda like Calpernia's origin.
Dwarven Warrior / Rogue Comes from a warrior-caste family from Kal-Sharok, not Orzammar.
Qunari Warrior / Rogue Follows the Qun, not Tal-Vashoth, fights the Tevinters in Seheron.
Qunari Mage Follows the Qun, a Saarebas, fights the Tevinters in Seheron. Would obviously need to break free of binding.
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Post by Pokemario on Feb 1, 2017 1:18:23 GMT
-Hero Of Ferelden -Champion Of Kirkwall -Inquisition Soldier (any race) Alternatively: -Tevinter Slave (any race) -Dalish Elf (elf only) -Legionnaire (dwarf only)
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Post by themikefest on Feb 1, 2017 1:22:05 GMT
background? Hmmm.... How about starting out as a baker? haha. Your adversary, another baker, sneaks into your bakery and steals your recipe for the special bread you make. What happens is you, the baker, chases your adversary all over Thedas, or wherever. During that time, you run across bandits, soldiers, wildlife and other stuff that wants to do you harm. You fight them. You also pick up a few companions that want to help you get your recipe back. You come across a conspiracy to kill a very high ranking official. No one believes you. So its left up to you and your side kicks to stop the baddies. In the end, you finally catch up to your adversary. I would tell the rest, but that would be spoiling it.
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Post by Hellkite on Feb 1, 2017 1:47:25 GMT
Sha-brytol Dwarf. Lyrium powers and weaponry FTW
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Feb 1, 2017 1:49:41 GMT
Human. Since noble and middle class tried, how about a shady human? A Antivan Crow. Elf. City and Dalish origin tried. How about one of the Ancients? Would every single one of them agree with Solas when they hear what he planned? I expect totally different combat styles from the above origins. The ancient elf being the most obvious.
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Post by Blaze on Feb 2, 2017 9:11:32 GMT
background? Hmmm.... How about starting out as a baker? haha. Your adversary, another baker, sneaks into your bakery and steals your recipe for the special bread you make. What happens is you, the baker, chases your adversary all over Thedas, or wherever. During that time, you run across bandits, soldiers, wildlife and other stuff that wants to do you harm. You fight them. You also pick up a few companions that want to help you get your recipe back. You come across a conspiracy to kill a very high ranking official. No one believes you. So its left up to you and your side kicks to stop the baddies. In the end, you finally catch up to your adversary. I would tell the rest, but that would be spoiling it. you should totally pitch that to patrick! =D
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Post by bear on Feb 3, 2017 12:25:52 GMT
My preference and wishes, both original and inspired by this thread, would be that you're either a slave, a member of a Laetan noble family or a member or surfacer dwarf associate of the Ambassadoria.
Race background:
If human PC, you play as either slave or the Laetan nobleman's younger child.
If dwarf, you play as an Ambassadoria dwarf on his way to a meeting with the Laetan family.
If elf or qunari, you play as the lord of the house's favoured slave and gladiator. Same goes for human slave player.
Social Background:
Your noble background is only relatively recently bestowed. Your father's an ambitious merchant who got blessed with the birth of a mage child, which is either the player character or the player's older sibling (or he could have two mage children?).
Your slave background is that of a slave captured at a young age in a sea raid. The Laetan noble family hired and trained you to guard the family, but a bet with an Altus noble that his slave guard could easily defeat the Laetan's resulted in a won bet that the Laetan nobleman decided to capitalize on. Thus you became a part-time gladiator, too. If a slave mage character, the noble's NPC mage child and player character could have a friendly relationship as the household's two only magic users.
Your dwarven background is that of surfacer dwarf who works the jobs for the ambassadoria that they need surface access to, but won't trust to non-dwarves. In DAI, Varric told of those dwarves who retain the same caste thinking they're non-surfacer dwarf cousins have. You're a member of such a family.
How the story starts..
The Laetan's business connections with the dwarves has secured him access to an ancient elven magical tome/artifact, which he intends to give as a gift to his mage child after he/she had a (major magical accomplishment).
Dwarf story starts with dwarf character following his merchant boss' through the streets of Minrathous to the family home of the Laetan family. On the way, two elves try to steal the item from you. You fight them, suddenly three more elves appear and crush into the fight along with the others. You kill one. They scramble. You look down to see the box with the item's still there. Your group continues on its way, discussing what just happened...
Slave background begins in the slave quarters. You have the best bed of all the slaves, and are even allowed personal items. Resentment is common, among especially from a wiry, redhaired elven serving slave. But a few admire your success. Especially two elven serving girls always flirting with you... Master calls for a feast to celebrate the handing over of the item, which he believes will improve his child's magical fame and thus his family's success even more. He wants you to act as the imposing guard. You put on your armor and get ready to move into the room, but not before accepting the glass of cool lemon water provided by the two admiring elven serving girls...
Noble background begins with you discussing with your sibling just what it is father's planning and what it will mean for both of you. You notice a certain red-haired serving slave eavesdropping by the door. You either ignore it and she disappears of her own, or you punish her for eavesdropping. Father calls you all down to the table...
Dinner is served (Potential chars in parentheses)
The dwarves have finally arrived, and promptly sit themselves down at the table. Nobleman father holds speech. Dwarf master merchant accepts speech, ya da yada. A dwarf (char) with a box finally opens the surprise.
And it's a bloody wolf's paw on a leash.... The dwarves protest that that is not what they put in the box when they left the Ambassadoria.
The guard (char) suddenly drops his weapon, then a second later falls to his feet. The two elven serving girls snarl and scream: "FOR Fen'Herel! One holds high a lyrium grenade, and is about to smash it into the ground....when they're hands are cut off and the grenade drops into the hands of the red-haired elf slave. The grenade is promptly put out by a curious-looking gel.
"Hello, lords and lords... my name is Charter. And I'm not really your slave"... begins the red-haired not-slave's story. A knock on the door, and the Inquisitor/Nonquisitor enters with Dorian Pavus at his side. He explains the importance (let's say not neccesarily huge, but still important) of the artifact and who's behind the attack and switcheroo.
The Laetan nobleman patriarch wants the artifact he paid for back, and an argument that the nobleman or dwarves should assist the Inq/Nonq in recovering it follows. Player char side wins argument. If slave, nobleman demands slave makes up for getting drugged by recovering the artifact for him and keeping an eye on the Inqs/Nonqs. If noble, father expects his son to keep an eye on the Inq/Nonq and to guarentee the safe return of the artifact. If dwarf, merchants blame the dwarf char for losing the real box and charge him with making sure the Inq/Nonq give it back, so the merchants' business reputation don't suffer.
Major decisions - in relation to backgrounds
Wether PC nobleman decides to recover artifact for glory of house, or some other - including more altruistic - reason.
Slave PC has the option of being freed slavery through Inq/Nonq interference. Can choose between remaining slave, having Inq/Nonq convince his Laetan master to release him after finding artifact... or using artifact to kill master and his family.
Dwarf PC is similar to noble, only replace glory of house with prestige of merchant house.
...and that got a bit long. Hopefully not tl;dr long.
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I would certainly want to see backgrounds for Qunari that incorporate the relationship to Qun. Tal-Vashoth is a great background, but a Qun follower would be great as well, on a mission to bring down tevinter influence somewhere, or separated from Qun through circumstance... But I expect that reserved for a companion rather than the PC. I absolutely love Qunari, and would love to see far more of the in-game lore about them. They are literally the only thing that would make me buy DA4.
Overall, I would prefer the PC to start as someone simply hard on his/her luck like in DA2, rather than a Chosen One in DA:I.
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Post by Gilsa on Mar 7, 2017 7:08:24 GMT
Ambassadoria dwarf sounds interesting. I'm more curious about Kal-Sharok dwarves. They were in contact with the Inquisitor via notes ("An Offer of Help, on Their Terms") and they trade on the surface so they're more like Orzammar, but not quite (since they function differently and hate Orzammar for closing their doors when the darkspawn invaded, they had to do questionable things to survive and we're not sure how this changed them). I'm OK with surface dwarves, but I'm ready for another go with underground dwarves to tap in what's left of that culture.
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