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Post by Walter Black on Jan 28, 2017 20:07:47 GMT
Questions #1 and #3 are really the same, they should be added together. It's impossible for your second run to be blind, you spoiled everything yourself in your first run. Or are you trying to find out which run people will resort to looking at wiki/forum for answers? Not necessarily; aside from all the romances, you can't get both In Hushed Whispers and Champions of the Just in one play through. Also, if the devs take any inspiration from Obsidian's latest offerings ( Pillars of Eternity, Tyranny, and Torment: Tides of Numenera), then it will be impossible to get all the major content in one run.
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Post by shechinah on Jan 28, 2017 20:19:16 GMT
I picked up DAO in the store not knowing anything about anything, then couldn't even play it for a couple of years until I had a newer computer that could run it. Got DA2 based on what I learned from playing DAO. So, I went in blind to both of those games. Would gladly do so for the next game, if it was possible.
I was spoiled WAY too much for DAI - some my own fault but with info everywhere online it's hard to avoid unless you ignore the internet. I'm trying to avoid any more MEA info and already learned more than I wanted from the latest trailer and briefing due to thread titles visible on the main page. Just a wayward glance and you can't un-see what's been seen.
I found out that you can collapses each section so the boards there are no longer visible. On the main page, all you have to do is click on the title Mass Effect and it'll collapse. It's what I've done for exactly the reason you mention. I've also bookmarked the Spoiler-free thread so I get updates but don't have to manually enter the thread through the boards.
I did spoil myself almost entirely on Dragon Age: Origins and the first and second Mass Effect because I tend to research a bit about a game before buying it. I don't need to do that anymore when it comes to Bioware because I've never failed to enjoy a game of theirs so it's a safe buy for me. I did end up spoling myself on Dragon Age 2 but that was because technical issues meant I couldn't play the game until months after it had been released and I just couldn't wait that long.
But yeah, Dragon Age: Inquisition had a very spoilery lead-up to release and when it seemed like Mass Effect: Andromeda was beginning to do that as well, I decided to step out until after I've played the game.
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 28, 2017 20:19:36 GMT
Yes, I am planning on doing so for the first playthrough down to not even knowing what the companions will look like or what their names are if I can help. I am doing the same for Mass Effect: Andromeda with more or less success. I was disappointed by how much I was spoiled on about Dragon Age: Inquisition. All I need is just enough information to make an informed decision as to whether to purchase or not. Some random gameplay, a conversation or two... and that's it. The rest I'm happy to discover in-game. I also played DA:O essentially "blind". I picked up based on a few friends' recommendations, GotY awards, and a couple of gameplay videos.
I picked up DAO in the store not knowing anything about anything, then couldn't even play it for a couple of years until I had a newer computer that could run it. Got DA2 based on what I learned from playing DAO. So, I went in blind to both of those games. Would gladly do so for the next game, if it was possible.
I was spoiled WAY too much for DAI - some my own fault but with info everywhere online it's hard to avoid unless you ignore the internet. I'm trying to avoid any more MEA info and already learned more than I wanted from the latest trailer and briefing due to thread titles visible on the main page. Just a wayward glance and you can't un-see what's been seen. They revealed too much for DAI for my liking as well, though I think they're handling the marketing for MEA well (at least so far). Waiting until the late in the development to show anything (and avoid the potential issue of showing things that won't be in the final game). Teasing just enough to get people's interest without going overboard (mostly). Aaryn mentioning there are things they are deliberately withholding showing for players to discover in-game. It'll be interesting to see how they approach the marketing for the Secret IP.
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Post by melbella on Jan 28, 2017 20:29:28 GMT
I found out that you can collapses each section so the boards there are no longer visible. On the main page, all you have to do is click on the title Mass Effect and it'll collapse. It's what I've done for exactly the reason you mention. I've also bookmarked the Spoiler-free thread so I get updates but don't have to manually enter the thread through the boards. Oh yes, I see what you mean. Unfortunately that also hides all the trilogy threads too. I might have to stick with it anyway and instead use my participated list to navigate.
Hrungr It's only been a day and a half and I already miss the Twitter thread. It's gonna be a looooong two months.....
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Post by correctamundo on Jan 28, 2017 20:31:07 GMT
I would definitely go into next DA totally blind if I could. I love those agonising choices. Left or right? Mages or templars? Chasing Dorian as female. That would probably mean no more BSN though. Since I can't keep away I will be a little spoiled. I try to minimize it with MEA.
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Post by shechinah on Jan 28, 2017 23:50:36 GMT
I found out that you can collapses each section so the boards there are no longer visible. On the main page, all you have to do is click on the title Mass Effect and it'll collapse. It's what I've done for exactly the reason you mention. I've also bookmarked the Spoiler-free thread so I get updates but don't have to manually enter the thread through the boards. Oh yes, I see what you mean. Unfortunately that also hides all the trilogy threads too. I might have to stick with it anyway and instead use my participated list to navigate.
Ah, I just use the tabs in the upper left to select the specific board.
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Post by Gilsa on Jan 30, 2017 2:54:37 GMT
I'd be willing to go in completely blind if it's a game from BioWare. Otherwise I usually just want to know WHAT I am playing. Like a description of my character so I have my bearings on how to navigate conversations in general. I feel that a dwarf would give different responses than an elf would, you know?
I value blind playthroughs (as much as I can) because it's the most honest playthrough and even when I discover other choices I could have made, I keep the original decisions intact in the keep to honor the game. I lost Alistair at Landsmeet and decided not to change it because I'd be betraying my character's choice. Wondered what the hell happened to Isabela in my first game and was annoyed with her, but another consequence of my choices. I knew I would never have another playthrough with this happening again so I kept it like that in the Keep, just to see where the narrative eventually ends up across the games.
I do get nervous about messing up romances because one never knows what the cut-off point is. For example, that stupid hardening mechanic for Alistair being tied down to ONE line in the entire game. ONE. And if you didn't lock in the romance with Blackwall ON the ramparts, regardless of how many flirts you had done prior to that, it would be unfixable after that. That has less to do with plot development and more to do with game mechanics, really. It's too long of a game to mess up like that.
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Post by House Targaryen on Jan 30, 2017 3:03:03 GMT
No character guides? What would I do???
Way back when Kotor was first released I bought the game guide to the game. Some how I missed the big reveal part because I was pleasantly surprised in the game. Thankfully I did miss that part.
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Post by mmoblitz on Jan 30, 2017 13:18:47 GMT
If you mean would buy DA4 blindly and not look into what the game has to offer or anything? If that is the case, then no. I wouldn't do that for any game especially if it's made by Bioware.
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Post by adrianbc on Jan 30, 2017 15:08:10 GMT
No. It`s not about spoilers, features revealed, romances. It`s about the concept and gameplay. The best option for me is a demo right before launch. Like it was the case with DA2, or ME3. Even if it`s just a very small area, or one designed only for this purpose. The game experience is what counts for me.
So, I cannot vote. The poll has no such option, or even one like: NO
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jan 30, 2017 15:17:52 GMT
I definitely DO plan to play DA4 blind. After a trailer is released at whatever event, I will drop out of everything.
I didn't start posting on forums until after I had played DA2, so both my first DAO and DA2 experiences were blind. With DAI, I had absorbed some of the hype and knew all of the romance options; I dropped out shortly after the romances were revealed. To this day I wish I hadn't known any of it.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jan 30, 2017 15:33:08 GMT
I also think it was rather pointless of them revealing so much about the sexual orientation of characters if they were then going to give you the impression in game that you could romance them regardless. Not all players follow that information, hardly any at all compared to the total playerbase at large. It can be important for some players who want to know what their options are so they don't get their hopes up for a specific person. It's not something I care to know in advance, but I can see how it's important for some players. As far as and flirts go, as far as I know, Dorian is the only follower than can be flirted with extensively as the gender not of his actual preference. Everyone else that has a specific preference turns you down, or you aren't allowed to flirt at all. For years fans commented on wanting things to be more realistic in that way, and they got it with DAI. You can express interest in a given PC, like a male can with Sera, and the person will (gently or humorously) turn down the advance. With Dorian specifically it's more an indication of his personality than anything else. I see nothing wrong with how any of that was done in the game, regardless of how the followers and their romances were promoted.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 23:56:32 GMT
I would like to say that I wouldn't spoil DA:4 for myself, but knowing me I'll probably will.
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Post by lundajfs on Feb 3, 2017 3:32:09 GMT
Since I have no joy in story or any other dumb thing than nope. The only reason RPG existis is for me to create my character the way I want, so I need to know everything for my creation to be perfect. As I said countless times, as long as a game has a character sheet with stat/skill/feat distribution it is a RPG for the only thing that matters to me, even if the gameplay is being in an empty room doing nothing forever. RPG is a character sheet, the rest is only a bunch of things getting in the way of distributing your next stat point, or unlocking the next class, or unlocking the next feat and so on. Can't think of anything more useless for a RPG game than surprise, perhaps story is almost as useless as surprise.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2017 13:01:19 GMT
Heck yeah! With DAO, all I really needed to know was: A. It was a BioWare game, which means: Awesome Story, lots o' dialogue and a fun RPG experience. B. It was Real-Time Strategy OR Pause-and-Play C. It was a dark medieval fantasy game Now that I know what the Dragon Age series is like, and I am a big fan of it. I have to admit, I would dive headfirst into a new Dragon Age game blind! I think this is the reason I am okay with Mass Effect: Andromeda having little to no major gameplay vids online. I just have this good feeling I'm going to love it. There hasn't really been a BioWare game that I didn't love. Granted, there are always things that you might not be completely happy with, but in the end I've enjoyed them all.
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Post by bear on Feb 3, 2017 13:08:03 GMT
My first playthroughs in RPG's is blind. There may be individual quests or puzzles I'll look up, like the puzzle to power on the computer on Noveria in Mass Effect, but otherwise first playthrough's blind.
But then I do start consulting wikis and guides to learn if there are things I missed or other ways to have done something.
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Post by Anthreya on Feb 3, 2017 17:17:47 GMT
Since my first PT is also my main,no,I don't want to go in blind.I'm too afraid that I'll do some major mistake I'm at the beginning of ME2 and ME wiki is my best friend ATM
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Post by Sylvius the Mad on Feb 3, 2017 20:00:33 GMT
I would vastly prefer to play blind. I don't think we should know who the party members are. It should be possible even to meet one in the game and still not know.
All I want to know before playing the game is how the rules work, and any background information my character is expected to possess.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Feb 3, 2017 20:15:33 GMT
I would vastly prefer to play blind. I don't think we should know who the party members are. It should be possible even to meet one in the game and still not know.
All I want to know before playing the game is how the rules work, and any background information my character is expected to possess. Is this referring to specific side quests where we're sent to meet certain people like Sera, Vivienne, and Blackwall that are very obviously recruitable party members?
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Post by shroomofdoom on Feb 5, 2017 13:00:27 GMT
Play blind on my first playthrough, subsequent playthroughs I want all the info I have yet to glean, so as to do my canon run.
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Post by Sylvius the Mad on Feb 6, 2017 20:23:24 GMT
I would vastly prefer to play blind. I don't think we should know who the party members are. It should be possible even to meet one in the game and still not know.
All I want to know before playing the game is how the rules work, and any background information my character is expected to possess. Is this referring to specific side quests where we're sent to meet certain people like Sera, Vivienne, and Blackwall that are very obviously recruitable party members? Blackwall isn't so bad, because we meet him in a location that exists for a purpose beyond just meeting him. But that explanatory text on the dialogue wheel that tells us exactly what's going to happen ("Sera will leave forever") is terrible. But that's not really what I was talking about. I was more thinking of how it's nearly impossible to be exposed to any of the game's marketing without being told who the companions are. The MEA team is revealing almost nothing else. DAO and DA2 actually handled this really well. You could easily miss companions in both games (I missed Fenris on my first playthrough, and I know a guy who missed Leliana), and even talking to the DAO companions you don't know they're companions immediately. Sten and Zevran are great for this (though Zevran would have been even better if we hadn't been shown those cutscenes with Loghain hiring him - I'd much rather have had to decide whether to trust his story as well as his motives).
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Post by thats1evildude on Feb 6, 2017 20:33:37 GMT
I find I never end up sticking to my pre-game plan anyways, so yeah, I would.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Feb 7, 2017 13:48:41 GMT
Is this referring to specific side quests where we're sent to meet certain people like Sera, Vivienne, and Blackwall that are very obviously recruitable party members? Blackwall isn't so bad, because we meet him in a location that exists for a purpose beyond just meeting him. But that explanatory text on the dialogue wheel that tells us exactly what's going to happen ("Sera will leave forever") is terrible. But that's not really what I was talking about. I was more thinking of how it's nearly impossible to be exposed to any of the game's marketing without being told who the companions are. The MEA team is revealing almost nothing else. Ooh. That is one reason I'm going to be going on a black out after the same is announced. To be honest, I've never understood how people could miss any of the followers in DA2 as you get quests that point you in very specific directions. DA2 has the extra carrot in Act 1 since you're trying to earn money. However, I know that you are a rigid roleplayer, so I guess I can see some circumstances where you disregarded certain queues for the sake of roleplay. Missing Leliana and Sten is definitely understandable, as the game doesn't require you to do anything in Lothering. I can see how someone might arrive there, be directed to the chantry by the templar near the entrance, talk to the guy in there, and then leave, thinking that they'd seen everything the village has to offer.
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Post by Princess Trejo on Feb 7, 2017 16:07:41 GMT
Maybe after I heard the plot and leaked screenshots.
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Post by Sylvius the Mad on Feb 7, 2017 17:54:46 GMT
To be honest, I've never understood how people could miss any of the followers in DA2 as you get quests that point you in very specific directions. DA2 has the extra carrot in Act 1 since you're trying to earn money. However, I know that you are a rigid roleplayer, so I guess I can see some circumstances where you disregarded certain queues for the sake of roleplay. Missing Leliana and Sten is definitely understandable, as the game doesn't require you to do anything in Lothering. I can see how someone might arrive there, be directed to the chantry by the templar near the entrance, talk to the guy in there, and then leave, thinking that they'd seen everything the village has to offer. I never do anything just because my journal tells me to. And in DA2, because quests would appear in my journal automatically without me knowing how, I made a point of not reading it. I kept my own notes instead. As such, I didn't go to the Hanged Man when the game wanted me to, and I completely missed Isabela. Fenris could also be missed, but what bothered me there was that once you started that initial sidequest Fenris became unavoidable. You were guaranteed to meet him, and you were guaranteed to have an on-going relationship with him. Hawke couldn't just ignore the guy upon meeting him. Incidentally, my refusal to do something just because my journal told me to is what prevented me from finishing the game. I got to Act 3 and I had every reason not to want to listen to Meredith, but there was no other way to advance the story, so my game just stopped there.
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