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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 21, 2017 16:42:36 GMT
Probably the worst place to post this but I honeslty think They should let Sam Maggs go after having a few conversations and looking at the cringe-reels of Suvi on YT. I also searched on Sam Maggs (the writer, btw) on Google and she's another one of those "look how harrassed and violated I was, give me attention" journalists who then joined BioWare out of their pity for her or something. Honestly I barely give a fuck about any of that - her dialogue and characterization (and how Ryder talks to her) is cringeworthy and I'm not talking anymore to her and I think Maggs should be fired. Seriously, her writing is a detriment to this game. I read half a page of her twitter feed and it shows what kind of person/writer she is. She should go back to Tumblr-fanfiction where she probably came from. I checked her twitter feed, and there's a post from 3/15 about how she didn't work on Andromeda at all. Whaaat? Then I've been lied to. I was told she was the assistant writer on it.
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Post by revydutch on Mar 21, 2017 16:53:09 GMT
Oh no!! I hurt straight boy's feelings!!! ))))): Sorry my sexuality isn't for your sexual consumption. /sarcasm
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Post by thelastsupersaiyan87 on Mar 21, 2017 17:03:23 GMT
So glad I play as females. I would hate to be like some of these others
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 17:03:52 GMT
Oh no!! I hurt straight boy's feelings!!! ))))): Sorry my sexuality isn't for your sexual consumption. /sarcasm No not really. You were right to vent as you did. Still I admit as a guy it did sting my manly pride a little, hence the 'ouch' remark.
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Post by Crim on Mar 21, 2017 17:08:28 GMT
I checked her twitter feed, and there's a post from 3/15 about how she didn't work on Andromeda at all. Whaaat? Then I've been lied to. I was told she was the assistant writer on it. Sheryl Chee wrote Vetra and Suvi. Lol my friend.
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Post by miso9 on Mar 21, 2017 17:10:02 GMT
I checked her twitter feed, and there's a post from 3/15 about how she didn't work on Andromeda at all. Whaaat? Then I've been lied to. I was told she was the assistant writer on it. Let me guess, by people who scream that "SJWs are ruining our game!!!"? Well, it's a hint it's better to take such sources with a great dose of skepticism. Last time I checked they also made up some lie about female animator to justify another campaign of online harassment.
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Post by Crim on Mar 21, 2017 17:26:10 GMT
I see it more like you. The ambiguity lets the player formulate in their imagination from the info they're given in the way they desire. But one needs to have a huge imagination to desexualize that scene in their mind. The sex itself is not showed because MEA team obviously would not bother to 'waste' so much resources on gay people, but the context of the writing clearly implies what follows that scene. And sorry, I'm just not OK with any interpretations that make Suvi not a gay woman. Shame that we didn't get a love scene, but this implied scene will have to do.
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Post by thelastsupersaiyan87 on Mar 21, 2017 19:12:40 GMT
To be honest I would rather get the amount of romance content that Suvi has plus an ambiguous sex scene over getting a sex scene and getting less content any day. Also we don't know what the DLC will have in store in terms of romance for all we know we will get a Trespasser or Citadel like DLC that will go further with Sara and Suvi's romance
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 19:42:44 GMT
I see it more like you. The ambiguity lets the player formulate in their imagination from the info they're given in the way they desire. But one needs to have a huge imagination to desexualize that scene in their mind. The sex itself is not showed because MEA team obviously would not bother to 'waste' so much resources on gay people, but the context of the writing clearly implies what follows that scene. And sorry, I'm just not OK with any interpretations that make Suvi not a gay woman. No one has ever accused me of having little imagination or not thinking too deeply. For myself, it's not about desexualizing as much as it is about not escalating the encounter beyond the setting, dialogues and characters as presented. I imagine Suvi took her gloves off but also imagine that her boots stayed on her feet, if not the floor.
It would be unfitting(disingenuous even) to try to say Suvi's not gay after what's been shown. Even with the non-confrontational letdown she gave Scott.
I saw your post on the romance thread about the animations for the PB/Sara romance. Such a letdown. It would be easier to feel good about the ambiguity of the level of sexual interaction with Suvi/Sara if PB/Sara provided a level of intimacy and uniqueness on par with Cora.
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Post by amehzing on Mar 21, 2017 20:25:41 GMT
I was the only thing keeping this thread together I am sorry for ever leaving.
This was the biggest of jokes but im bored so hey guys!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 20:48:50 GMT
12. What do you think might piss Suvi off?reindeer games(not the movie). After learning some more about Suvi I would like to change this answer to : Ax grinding. :contempt:
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Post by thelastsupersaiyan87 on Mar 21, 2017 22:46:11 GMT
Uh, I don't think he meant it like that. A lot of folks love shipping and enjoy getting excited about the romances of their favorite characters. It's part of being a fan and is harmless. And most of the people here, both girls and guys are really cool. For real "quality" sorts, check out youtube comments. Or maybe what you said was sarcasm, if so, I'm really bad at it. On Tumblr he literally asked for porn of Sara and Suvi. Proof: itsrevydutch.tumblr.com/post/158664181932/ladiesman727-actually-no-you-and-your-fetishisingStraight men can stay the hell away from this thread if they're gonna be gross like that. I have no problem with anyone taking the romance at face value and appreciating the wonderful and adorable connection they have, but straight men trying to weasel their way into an NSFW conversation BETWEEN QUEER WOMEN about sexual stuff between two women is y i k e s. Tl;Dr: straight men don't have a voice in NSFW discussions about queer women. We don't want to talk to someone with a perspective that fetishizes us; we want to talk to other women who've also had these experiences. The only perspective (cis)straight men have on lesbian sex is what they see in porn, which is incredibly unrealistic in the first place, and comes from a perspective that's solely objectified and causes more harm than good. You're not a "good dude" for watching lesbian porn or trying to weasel your way into wlw spaces or discussions. Straight men, stay in your lane. Um I really hope you don't think I'm like that, I don't have any fantasies about lesbians cause I'm smart enough to know that there is no need getting sexually excited about it cause well they quiet frankly don't need me lol. I prefer f/f content because really I find it cute and more romantic than straight romances in media (anime/manga/books/video games etc) my bisexual girlfriend feels the same way, she already said she thinks Sara and Suvi's relationship is adorable and i feel the same way. Plus I got tired of always playing a male in games so now when it comes to games with a CC i strictly play as a female
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 22, 2017 1:21:36 GMT
12. What do you think might piss Suvi off?reindeer games(not the movie). After learning some more about Suvi I would like to change this answer to : Ax grinding. :contempt: I'm so sorry to hear about hung up you are on us telling you several pages ago that Suvi is gay.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 1:35:52 GMT
After learning some more about Suvi I would like to change this answer to : Ax grinding. :contempt: I'm so sorry to hear about hung up you are on us telling you several pages ago that Suvi is gay. :sure: That wasn't the motivator of the change. :noo: It was about the email... where Suvi mentions having to defend herself over assumptions about who she is.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 22, 2017 1:39:46 GMT
I'm so sorry to hear about hung up you are on us telling you several pages ago that Suvi is gay. :sure: That wasn't the motivator of the change. :noo: It was about the email... where Suvi mentions having to defend herself over assumptions about who she is. As for Suvi, more like she gonna defend herself against Sara's jealousy over Vetra and Suvi's one-night-stand.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 1:48:41 GMT
:sure: That wasn't the motivator of the change. :noo: It was about the email... where Suvi mentions having to defend herself over assumptions about who she is. As for Suvi, more like she gonna defend herself against Sara's jealousy over Vetra and Suvi's one-night-stand. Is that about Suvi and Vetra for real? That would be awesome. Should spoiler that for others.
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Post by Natashina on Mar 22, 2017 1:56:05 GMT
Enough with the insults and pointless bickering. Please drop it or at least take it to PM. Let's not get too hostile, okay?
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 22, 2017 1:57:48 GMT
Anyways, I love how gay Suvi is.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 2:29:58 GMT
I checked her twitter feed, and there's a post from 3/15 about how she didn't work on Andromeda at all. Whaaat? Then I've been lied to. I was told she was the assistant writer on it. Nope, the only Junior writer on the project is Courtney Woods i believe. She used to work as a community manager for Swtor. You also have Joana Berry who is kind of fresh, though she has done some work on Swtor. Sam Maggs is on the new IP, if that makes you feel any better. Most of the other writers have worked previously on Mass Effect, or Swtor.
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Post by disgustednoise on Mar 22, 2017 2:55:22 GMT
I just got to Aya and wanted to say that I love Suvi as much as I hoped I would. Definitely where my first Sara run is going to go. (Although I'm almost tempted by Vetra since she's the clear star of the game so far.)
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Post by thelastsupersaiyan87 on Mar 22, 2017 4:17:37 GMT
Hey guys, does anyome know if the drinks date between Sara and Suvi on the Nexus actually happens in the game? I'm at that part and don't want to miss it if it is
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Post by thelastsupersaiyan87 on Mar 22, 2017 7:03:38 GMT
Oh yeah I meant to put this on here but when I started Andromeda and went to the character creator Sara came up first so I guess Bioware stayed true to what they said and Sara is indeed the default
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Post by erinkane on Mar 22, 2017 7:09:14 GMT
I've been around guys but I've been trying to be careful because of spoilers. I'm probably going to stay away for awhile too because I'm not sure when I'll be able to play it. Hopefully soon. I will definitely be back when I have. I have to say though, this has been a lot more disappointing then I can remember Bioware being in awhile. The CC mess and now finding out how badly gay male gamers have been screwed over. I really worry for the future of the ME series going forward. If they announced Jade Empire was returning to take it's place I might handle it better but the ME series really was my favorite games of all time and this tarnishing of their legacy is very sad.
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Post by Crim on Mar 22, 2017 10:54:58 GMT
I've been around guys but I've been trying to be careful because of spoilers. I'm probably going to stay away for awhile too because I'm not sure when I'll be able to play it. Hopefully soon. I will definitely be back when I have. I have to say though, this has been a lot more disappointing then I can remember Bioware being in awhile. The CC mess and now finding out how badly gay male gamers have been screwed over. I really worry for the future of the ME series going forward. If they announced Jade Empire was returning to take it's place I might handle it better but the ME series really was my favorite games of all time and this tarnishing of their legacy is very sad. ME has always seemed to lag behind it's sister series DA in this respect. One can only hope DA4 will do better, alot better. With Patrick Weekes at the helm things are looking good, he is an ally. I'm still waiting for this game to drop here too and once it has I'm out, till I finish it.
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Post by Crim on Mar 22, 2017 11:46:38 GMT
Anyways, I love how gay Suvi is. I do too and I look forward to your fics. #lockthedoor
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