How much time should a Full Manifest grind take?

Honestly I was 200-250 hours in ME3MP on the console and I had all Weapons but only a few N7 that weren't maxed. Though I stopped playing shortly after plat was introduced and a did P2W quite I bit. On PC now it's pretty easy to max everything when you hack the credits in :^) That aside I would like the grind to max everything to be about 300 hours and when people start maxing it out for more content to be released for a year or so, just to keep things fresh. I just don't like long grinds anymore now that I have a demanding job.

Well, for me it's not so much how long it takes, it's how smooth and steady it is. I really love the process of getting new cards, but the Silver to Gold transition was too abrupt, and basically impossible for me to make, and that locked out progression. I would not mind a game to me more rewarding for a mediocre player, then I will happily play as long as it takes. But if my full haul always goes into consumables packs, and I cannot save up for the cards, at some point it is going to get to you.

At 147 hours, I was barely starting on the gold weapons, and that's with preferentially buying weapon packs, and leaving mix-and-match packs alone.

Maybe the answer is to allow you by specific consumables for cheap, rather than selling consumables in packs that are equivalent in price to a silver game payout to replace medigels.

And no, you don't need those things to play Silver, but well, it's nice to get something.

I am aware that folks do not like it when people can gear up without playing high difficulty, because they believe it is punishing and unfair for the advanced players, but truly, why force those of us who can't play G or P games there? We only make people angry.

I don't care if a full manifest takes over 1000 hours providing we have the option to spend more ingame currency on the kits, weapons and upgrades we want to work towards.

If we can have targeted buying, at a greater cost than rng pack opening then it's fine, because I know for sure there will be more than half a dozen hits and weapons I won't ever enjoy playing beyond testing them once or twice.

I understand the struggle and I have been there, too. In fact, going back into playing ME3MP after a few year hiatus, with a maxed manifest and more credits than I can ever burn made me into a lazier, careless player that can afford to burn consumables on Silver and often will burn consumables on Silver.

That being said, if I were in a situation in which I actually play Silver for Credits and every single consumable is precious (we will all find ourselves in that situation soon) I would only be playing certain kits with certain weapons (really no more than 1-3 kits), trying to squeeze the most out of my limited inventory; it goes without saying that I would not promote and preferably play with friends only.
Trying to play every kit there is, sub level 20 and having 3 pugs with me makes everything really difficult, even for Silver which is not supposed to be that difficult. I guess I will be avoiding that situation in Andromeda early on, just as every BSNer also should be.

No, the trouble is not that you spend six medigels and six shields and six rockets. The trouble is that you spend all you had of at least one, mostly the medigels. But if you want medigels, you must buy all three, and the charge is Exuberant. The mixed packs do not supply enough medigels to keep going.

Your L2P potential is limited by your natural ability. There is a specific tier you as a player can play with starting gear. However, the gearing up always helps stretch out a little and win a level of difficulty or two, and advance. So, gearing up should be somewhat accessible to everyone particularly when the manifest is the only tangible reward/goal in the module.

In SWTOR you can spend some of your comms on just medpacks or just adrenals, and your weekly and daily gave you enough to go on too. The packs that are not supply specific often do not give you any medigels at all -to be honest, seeing medigels in a pack was like a jackpot for me.

And, yes, actually, that was the only viable way to get progression, pug a few Bronze games to earn a supply pack, pug a few Silver games burning through the gels, to, hopefully , build up the 99k to get one new weapons pack. Now, all I ask is to be able to buy 2 or 3 medigels separately, and still have a half or third price for the pack left over on a Silver game

All I want is a viable way to just play silver and slowly gear up while not driving every other player mad with your "one strike and I am out" play style, because you prefer to buy equipment, not supply packs. Being a conscientious player should not prevent progression imo, and also should not make you play any level that you do not want to play at.

At any rate, this is far too long of a post to say "being able to purchase medigels separately would be nice". Not necessary, but certainly nice.

It's a good story. My friend was teaching me to close gaps on my Knight all across the Outlaw Den for two hours. On his Operative. He was really hoping someone else comes along to challenge him, 'cause honest to god, he managed to mount the speeder and make a circle around me once in a while. I think the whole planet emptied out because people are so terrified of OW PvP. So, yeah... all those white chat: "Choke. Choke. I still don't see that choke!" "Trust me, I don't wish for many things more than to choke you." over the dunes.... Good times.

yeah, in my time, the jawas/bacon never went beyond Coruscant/DK. I was playing in ~2013-2015, it was pretty quiet by then.

Such good times!

Man so many good ones, it's a shame my server ended up such a ghost town. I'm gonna spoiler these because there's just so many favourites.

WARNING: MANY PICTURES AHEAD


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It should depend on the LEVEL of grind. If you're nuking platinum TotallyNotReapers in say fifteen minutes a match, you should be earning a commensurate amount of lootphats to justify doing said platinum in the first place.

If you're playing lots of silver, well then it might take a while.

People still play 3MP years later because you can headbutt all the things, not because of the Skinner Box Warframe Bullshit attached to it.