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Post by talyn82 on May 6, 2017 2:27:10 GMT
Hawke went next to the Hanged Mans pub and spoke to Varric. He first apologized for how he acted at Bartrand's estate, and then he told Hawke he was honored to have met her six years ago. Hawke then went to the Templars Hall at the Gallows and spoke eith Orsino. He told her that he wanted her to attend a nigh time meeting between templars and mages in Hightown. Hawke accepted, and left for Hightown. HAwke and co attended the meeting and were quickly atttacked. After defeating them Anders suggested to search the bodies, Hawke found a letter saying that any new recruits should be taken Garibaldi's warehouse at night. The party headed to the Warehouse district of the Docks at night. She found the templar Keran speaking to a mage. Once the mage saw Hawke they attacked. After a long fight, Keran spoke to Hawke telling her that the group had kidnapped Bethany, and that they meant her no harm. There goal was to get rid of Meredith, he also said their leader was Thrask another templar Hawke had helped years ago. Keran said they were located on the Wounded Coast, that is their next destination.
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Post by talyn82 on May 6, 2017 2:28:25 GMT
Okay, so Hawke talked her way out of a fight by taking full responsibility. I thought this would net some friendship points from Merrill, but instead I got 15 rivalry points. I guess she wanted to die as punishment? I took it as she thought Hawke was not supporting her or being loyal. I've taken to killing the elves unless rivaling her. I was shocked the first time Hawke ended up fighting the elves and reloaded. Merrill was not happy with Hawke that playthrough. So she would have been happy if they killed the rest of the elves?
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Post by talyn82 on May 6, 2017 2:50:46 GMT
So she would have been happy if they killed the rest of the elves? hmm what I posted is not clear. Don't think there is a friendship/rivalry point after the battle. Only rivalry points when you tell Merril you will take responsibility for her. But I think Merrill is happy in a way because that you stood up for her and she didn't get that backing from her clan or Marethari. But I think there is a cut scene where she seems sad or lost without them. I hope that makes sense. Yeah, it does make sense. I am really confused about making Merrill happy though. I am trying to max out friendship on as many companions as I can. Anders, Aveline, Varric, and Fenris I think already love me. Maybe Isabella too?
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Post by talyn82 on May 6, 2017 3:08:33 GMT
Yeah, it does make sense. I am really confused about making Merrill happy though. I am trying to max out friendship on as many companions as I can. Anders, Aveline, Varric, and Fenris I think already love me. Maybe Isabella too? I found Isabella harder to figure out which quests she would approve besides slavers for some reason. Aveline, law and order. Merrill I think she will approve if you help the elves. You have Anders and Fenris both friendship- wow. It's difficult to get them both at friendship. I don't use Isabella much. The last time Iused her was the slavers quest. As for Anders and Fenris. I found it easier to get friendship points with Anders than with Fenris. But somehow I am on good terms with both of them, for now.
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Post by Catilina on May 6, 2017 10:03:12 GMT
I took it as she thought Hawke was not supporting her or being loyal. I've taken to killing the elves unless rivaling her. I was shocked the first time Hawke ended up fighting the elves and reloaded. Merrill was not happy with Hawke that playthrough. So she would have been happy if they killed the rest of the elves? I think, Merrill gives rivalry because Hawke takes the responsibility for her, instead of her. I can't wording better, but I feel, that Merrill disappointed in Marethari, in her clan – and finally in Hawke, because treat her as a child. This is may an instantaneous reaction. (Just as Anders reaction, if Male!Hawke refuses him.)
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Post by talyn82 on May 6, 2017 18:29:24 GMT
So she would have been happy if they killed the rest of the elves? I think, Merrill gives rivalry because Hawke takes the responsibility for her, instead of her. I can't wording better, but I feel, that Merrill disappointed in Marethari, in her clan – and finally in Hawke, because treat her as a child. This is may an instantaneous reaction. (Just as Anders reaction, if Male!Hawke refuses him.) Yeah, that does make a lot of sense.
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Post by phoray on May 7, 2017 2:37:30 GMT
Merril is of the opinion that the deal with Marethari was a tragic accident- one she may even admit to feeling guilty about- but certainly wouldn't decalre publicly "hey, guys, I killed my mom!"
She's also been hurt and irritated on multiple occasions by her clan's stubborness to treat her as barely a Dalish elf just for her choice to work on the Eluvian. yes, Tamlen touched it and died, but she's hung out with it 7 years at this point and hasn't killed anyone because of it. So why wouldn't they get over it? But this distrust of her brings them to immediately accuse her of murdering her own mother. like, with no discussion, they're ready to shove a pitchfork in her and burn her at the stake.
And then Hawke says, "Hey guys. I take responsibility for the gal that just killed your leader. Don't worry, let us pass."
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"What the fuck, guys, she totally did NOT just kill her mom! back off!"
THAT is why Merril is offended. you didn't stand up for her.
She doesn't know that they all really would have attacked the Hawke group down to the last man. She doesn't see all like the player does. So, she doesn't see it as a "kill the clan" vs "don't kill the clan" decision. She just hears it as whether or not Hawke, her new family, stood up for her against the family that turned their back on her.
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Post by Catilina on May 7, 2017 13:24:56 GMT
I also started a new game, with aggressive-sarcastic Hawke, I planned to rival everyone except for Anders, But seems it's not easy (I don't like watching the wiki, just to play out of bounds), and also planned Warden Carver, but the temptation is just so big to make him Templar with an asshole Hawke... this just fit their nexus. ( Stay at home, with mom, little whine prick...)
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Post by talyn82 on May 7, 2017 16:51:09 GMT
Merril is of the opinion that the deal with Marethari was a tragic accident- one she may even admit to feeling guilty about- but certainly wouldn't decalre publicly "hey, guys, I killed my mom!" She's also been hurt and irritated on multiple occasions by her clan's stubborness to treat her as barely a Dalish elf just for her choice to work on the Eluvian. yes, Tamlen touched it and died, but she's hung out with it 7 years at this point and hasn't killed anyone because of it. So why wouldn't they get over it? But this distrust of her brings them to immediately accuse her of murdering her own mother. like, with no discussion, they're ready to shove a pitchfork in her and burn her at the stake. And then Hawke says, "Hey guys. I take responsibility for the gal that just killed your leader. Don't worry, let us pass." INSTEAD of "What the fuck, guys, she totally did NOT just kill her mom! back off!" THAT is why Merril is offended. you didn't stand up for her. She doesn't know that they all really would have attacked the Hawke group down to the last man. She doesn't see all like the player does. So, she doesn't see it as a "kill the clan" vs "don't kill the clan" decision. She just hears it as whether or not Hawke, her new family, stood up for her against the family that turned their back on her. Now I'm curious how she would have reacted if Hawke and crew killed the elves. I know she won't be happy, but I want to see the consequences of that action. Does Merrill leave or does she stay? I'll find out in my next playthrough. Because standing up for Merrill leads to a fight, that's why I chose the "I'll take full responsibility" route.
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