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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 12, 2017 16:28:43 GMT
Once Mass Effect Andromeda is out, the devs focus will turn to DLC and quality-of-life patches and fixes. The problem is that it is sometimes hard for BioWare to see what the 'fans' are interested in amongst the cacophony of different views. BioWare have acted on 'fan requests' in the past where it was practicable to do so. So... using as inspiration, the ' Heal/Hate' game popularised on BSN by lightdrago3 , here is a way to highlight what our community are recommending for future Patches. Rules:- You copy the most recent 'list' into your own post, adjusting it as follows:
- You can add a new Patch suggestion (in 3 or 4 words).
- You can add or deduct 4 marks (+4 or -4) from any suggestion already listed.
- You can add, or deduct, a combination of 4 marks to two or more suggestions: (e.g. +3, -1 / +2, -2 / +2, +2 / +2, -1, -1 / any combination of 4)
- You bold your changes.
- All new suggestions start with 10 points.
- If a suggestion falls to zero (0) it's removed from the list.
- A removed suggestion can be re-listed once, after that it's never coming back.
- There is no end-point as such but it will become clear over time which are the most favored suggestions.
- You can only post once per hour, that goes for votes as well as non-voting comments (to keep it focused).
- You can tag me (SofaJockey ) if things have added up wrong for a 'tidy-up' with that post not counting.
Other considerations:
- This is not for plot or story changes and please keep those out of this thread.
- You can propose both additive and 'fixing' proposals (add this as well as fix this significant problem) ~ though we'll have a separate 'bug' thread.
- Be practical, suggest stuff BioWare can reasonably do in a Patch, so not 'add 1st person mode' or 'introduce PVP'.
- Be pleasant about it, the thread is intended to be read and to be helpful, snark will be mod-moved to another suitable thread.
Example:
Poster 1:
Introduce Photo-Mode -10 No holding pistols backwards - 10 Hairdresser on Nexus - 10 Pyjak to be romanceable -10
Poster 2 doesn't like the Pyjak suggestion so down-votes it by 4 points:
Introduce Photo-Mode -10 No holding pistols backwards - 10 Hairdresser on Nexus - 10 Pyjak to be romanceable - 6
Poster 3 dislikes the Pistol fix but likes the Pyjak, -2 and +2 for those.
Introduce Photo-Mode -10 No holding pistols backwards - 8 Hairdresser on Nexus - 10 Pyjak to be romanceable - 8
Poster 4 adds a new one: 'Alternate companion amors' to the end of the list (giving it 10 points)
Introduce Photo-Mode -10 No holding pistols backwards - 8 Hairdresser on Nexus - 10 Pyjak to be romanceable - 8 Alternate companion amors - 10 *new*
Finally, Poster 5 is really interested in the Pyjak romance so boosts it by 3 marks, but also boosts the Photo Mode by 1:
Introduce Photo-Mode - 11 No holding pistols backwards - 9 Hairdresser on Nexus - 10 Pyjak to be romanceable - 11 Alternate companion amors - 10
End of example.
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 12, 2017 16:29:32 GMT
As people are already discussion 'patch ideas' may as well bring this thread out of the 'mod-store'.
So I'll start, with the 'photo-mode suggestion':
Introduce Photo-Mode - 10 *new*
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Post by veky359 on Mar 15, 2017 13:49:25 GMT
Introduce mirror in Ryder cabin for change hair and beard style - 10 *new* Introduce Photo-Mode - 8
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Post by shepherdcommander on Mar 15, 2017 14:03:13 GMT
Better Character Creator Tools (and available to use on all human NPC) - 10 *new* Introduce mirror in Ryder cabin for change hair and beard style - 10 Introduce Photo-Mode - 10
(veky's hittin it hard with the double turn right out the starting gate, huh?)
Also I could write ten pages on the CC but... eh? There is no reason we should not have *everything* available to mix and match on *everything* else. No reason for any nose, eyebrow, ear, lip, tooth, or skin color to be locked to any other feature or attribute.
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Post by derrame on Mar 15, 2017 14:11:14 GMT
Better Character Creator Tools (and available to use on all human NPC) - 10 *new* Introduce mirror in Ryder cabin for change hair and beard style - 11 Introduce Photo-Mode - 11 No Backward Pistols - 1 Change Squadmates Outfits and Armors and Weapons - 1 Add Field of View Slider - 1
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 14:19:00 GMT
Better Character Creator Tools available to use on all human NPC - 13 Introduce mirror in Ryder cabin for change hair and beard style - 11 Introduce Photo-Mode - 11
I am not sure how these three in the previous post work - they look new, so should not they start with 10 points??? So, tentatively
No Backward Pistols - 10 Change Squadmates Outfits and Armors and Weapons - 10 Add Field of View Slider - 10
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Post by Iakus on Mar 15, 2017 14:39:28 GMT
BetterCharacter Creator Tools available to use on all human NPC - 13 Introduce mirror in Ryder cabin for change hair and beard style - 14 Introduce Photo-Mode - 11 No Backward Pistols - 10 Change Squadmates Outfits and Armors and Weapons - 10 Add Field of View Slider - 10 Alternate outfits for squadmates (in particular, armor)-10
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 15, 2017 14:50:03 GMT
shepherdcommander and others: Can I get a clarification on this one: "Better Character Creator Tools available to use on all human NPC"It looks like two suggestions to me: Better Character Creator Tools (features) Be able to CC modify human NPCsIf it is, I'll split them (keeping their scores) ALSO We seem mixed up: Change Squadmates Outfits and Armors and Weapons - 10 Alternate outfits for squadmates (in particular, armor)-10I propose we separate out 'outfits' to have two points: Change Squadmates' Weapons - 10 Alternate outfits/armors for squadmates -10I'll make these changes unless I get complaints...
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Post by scouserant23 on Mar 15, 2017 14:54:55 GMT
Better Character Creator (facial features) Tools - 13 Ability to use CC on NPCs - 13 Mirror in Ryder cabin for change of hair and beard style - 14 Introduce Photo-Mode - 11 No Backward Pistols - 10 Change Squadmates' Weapons - 10 Add Console Field of View Slider - 10 Alternate outfits/armors for squadmates - 10 Nomad entry animation on an options toggle - 10 *New*
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 15, 2017 16:27:56 GMT
Deducting 2 from Console FOV because they can't do it:
Eruannster @eruannster @tibermoon Will there be field of view options on consoles as well as PC or are we doomed to watch Ryder's behind at a certain distance?
@tibermoon @eruannster pc only, sorry. We tried it on consoles but the performance hit was too big.
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Post by theflyingzamboni on Mar 15, 2017 16:31:01 GMT
Adding 3 to better CC
Better Character Creator (facial features) Tools - 16 Mirror in Ryder cabin for change of hair and beard style - 14 Ability to use CC on NPCs - 13 Introduce Photo-Mode - 11 No Backward Pistols - 10 Change Squadmates' Weapons - 10 Alternate outfits/armors for squadmates - 10 Nomad entry animation on an options toggle - 10 Add Console Field of View Slider - 8
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 16:39:37 GMT
shepherdcommander and others: Can I get a clarification on this one: "Better Character Creator Tools available to use on all human NPC"It looks like two suggestions to me: Better Character Creator Tools (features) Be able to CC modify human NPCsIf it is, I'll split them (keeping their scores) ALSO We seem mixed up: Change Squadmates Outfits and Armors and Weapons - 10 Alternate outfits for squadmates (in particular, armor)-10I propose we separate out 'outfits' to have two points: Change Squadmates' Weapons - 10 Alternate outfits/armors for squadmates -10I'll make these changes unless I get complaints... Hi! Since I was the one that originally gave 3 points to the "better CC AND the ability to use it on the NPCs" I would clarify that I was up-voting it with 3 points for the Ability to Use it on the NPCs. So, I suppose, it's less 3 on the "better CC" and remain at 13 for the "ability to use CC on the NPCs/companions".
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Post by etheblack on Mar 15, 2017 16:43:04 GMT
Better Character Creator (facial features) Tools - 13* Mirror in Ryder cabin for change of hair and beard style - 14 Ability to use CC on NPCs - 13 Introduce Photo-Mode - 11 No Backward Pistols - 10 Change Squadmates' Weapons - 10 Alternate outfits/armors for squadmates - 13 Nomad entry animation on an options toggle - 10 Add Console Field of View Slider - 8
*mod-correction due to immediately prior post.
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Better Character Creator (facial features) Tools - 13 Mirror in Ryder cabin for change of hair and beard style - 14 Ability to use CC on NPCs - 13 Introduce Photo-Mode - 11 No Backward Pistols - 10 Change Squadmates' Weapons - 10 Alternate outfits/armors for squadmates - 13 Nomad entry animation on an options toggle - 10 Add Console Field of View Slider - 8 Fix the Eyes - 10
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 17:00:52 GMT
Better Character Creator (facial features) Tools - 13 Mirror in Ryder cabin for change of hair and beard style - 14 Ability to use CC on NPCs - 13 Introduce Photo-Mode - 11 No Backward Pistols - 10 Change Squadmates' Weapons - 10 Alternate outfits/armors for squadmates - 16 Nomad entry animation on an options toggle - 10 Add Console Field of View Slider - 8 Fix the Eyes - 10 Add optional mini-map marking enemy/ally locations/compass to HUD - 10 *new*
ETA: I'd like to point out that I added the word "optional" after the fact. Apologies to those who have responded since then.
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Post by scouserant23 on Mar 15, 2017 17:26:43 GMT
Just a thought may be a good idea to make this a sticky thread?
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Post by Wulfram on Mar 15, 2017 17:31:15 GMT
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Post by stysiaq on Mar 15, 2017 18:21:40 GMT
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 15, 2017 19:17:38 GMT
Just a thought may be a good idea to make this a sticky thread? I wanted to see if it got some traction first, but if it's still going by launch, then yes. (and no, this doesn't count as my turn) oh, and 'Braces' ?
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Post by solmirra on Mar 15, 2017 19:19:26 GMT
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Post by armass81 on Mar 15, 2017 19:23:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 19:31:21 GMT
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Post by theflyingzamboni on Mar 15, 2017 19:39:46 GMT
- Be practical, suggest stuff BioWare can reasonably do in a Patch, so not 'add 1st person mode' or 'introduce PVP'.
Can I just say, I think "Ability to use CC on NPCs" violates this rule. Bioware is never going to let people alter the faces of their NPCs. It will never happen. I'd consider this very much unreasonable. If the purpose of this is to highlight things that the community wants improved, separated from that cacophony, I'd suggest removing this item.
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Post by wintermoons on Mar 15, 2017 19:40:04 GMT
Better Character Creator (facial features) Tools - 16 Mirror in Ryder cabin for change of hair and beard style - 14 Ability to use CC on NPCs - 12 Introduce Photo-Mode - 11 No Backward Pistols - 10 Change Squadmates' Weapons - 10 Alternate outfits/armors for squadmates - 16 Nomad entry animation on an options toggle - 10 Add Console Field of View Slider - 8 Fix the Eyes - 17 Add mini-map marking enemy/ally locations/compass to HUD - 10 Braces for default Sara Ryder (new) - 10
I agree with theflyingzamboni -- Bioware can't reasonably make the CC useable on NPCs, especially not in a patch.
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 15, 2017 19:44:10 GMT
- Be practical, suggest stuff BioWare can reasonably do in a Patch, so not 'add 1st person mode' or 'introduce PVP'.
Can I just say, I think "Ability to use CC on NPCs" violates this rule. Bioware is never going to let people alter the faces of their NPCs. It will never happen. I'd consider this very much unreasonable. If the purpose of this is to highlight things that the community wants improved, separated from that cacophony, I'd suggest removing this item. I have some empathy for this comment. I'll use one of my down-votes on this item, if others agree with you then perhaps they will down-vote the item as well. Better Character Creator (facial features) Tools - 16 Mirror in Ryder cabin for change of hair and beard style - 14 Ability to use CC on NPCs - 10Introduce Photo-Mode - 11 No Backward Pistols - 10 Change Squadmates' Weapons - 10 Alternate outfits/armors for squadmates - 16 Nomad entry animation on an options toggle - 10 Add Console Field of View Slider - 8 Fix the Eyes - 17 Add mini-map marking enemy/ally locations/compass to HUD - 10 Braces for default Sara Ryder - 10
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