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Post by dm5k on Mar 17, 2017 18:12:22 GMT
I'm not sure how it is on PC or PS4 but on Xbox you need to press the top 2 bumpers to activate a main ability. My issue is that you cannot change this under controller settings. This is a bad design choice IMO. For example sometimes I don't press them in unison and then I throw sticky grenade instead of cloaking. In ME3 it was one button to activate any ability. At least give us the option to change this under settings or remove the 2 button thing entirely.
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Post by Vortex13 on Mar 17, 2017 18:15:32 GMT
I'm not sure how it is on PC or PS4 but on Xbox you need to press the top 2 bumpers to activate a main ability. My issue is that you cannot change this under controller settings. This is a bad design choice IMO. For example sometimes I don't press them in unison and then I throw sticky grenade instead of cloaking. In ME3 it was one button to activate any ability. At least give us the option to change this under settings or remove this entirely. Despite having not played the trial, I agree with this. I still have nightmares from For Honor and trying to press both the light and heavy attack buttons together to initiate an area attack, and then wind up doing a random heavy attack at nothing. |
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Post by I'm Not Dead Just Yet on Mar 17, 2017 18:17:36 GMT
I play on Xbox too but I have almost no problem with it. I have once or twice accidentally thrown a nade or used a power instead, but not often enough for it to annoy me.
Destiny does it too and I've been playing that for years with no trouble either.
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Post by Heroicmass on Mar 17, 2017 18:19:53 GMT
I've enjoyed throwing the occasional melee instead of casting a power myself. It'll come in time and the muscle memory will be there.
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Post by bekkael on Mar 17, 2017 18:22:03 GMT
I agree, I dislike the 2 button push. We'll just have to get used to it though as I'm sure they won't change it at this point.
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Post by squidney2k1 on Mar 17, 2017 18:27:18 GMT
Yeah, I was not a fan of that when I first saw the trailers. The idea is to avoid using Triangle/Y so players don't have to take their thumb off of the right stick.
I'm playing on PC, where it's just 1,2,3 on the keyboard, so it's the same as previous games. But if I play with a controller, I'll probably use a script to re-map that function (since the Xbox Elite controller still doesn't allow macros or multiple button mapping).
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Post by MajorAssman on Mar 17, 2017 18:34:08 GMT
Xbox one here, no issue with double bumper press as earlier poster said it's in Destiny so maybe I'm just used to it.
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Post by DayusMakhina on Mar 17, 2017 18:52:50 GMT
I'm sorry but if you're having issue pressing 2 buttons in unison then you must be so ridiculously uncoordinated it's untrue. Never once had that issue on Destiny and not once have I had it on this.
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 17, 2017 18:55:08 GMT
I'm sorry but if you're having issue pressing 2 buttons in unison then you must be so ridiculously uncoordinated it's untrue. Never once had that issue on Destiny and not once have I had it on this. The issue isn't so much people's inability to press two buttons, it's the controller's inability to register the presses as simultaneous. |
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Post by drface007 on Mar 17, 2017 18:57:07 GMT
That really threw me off for a while too when trying to cloak with infiltrator. Good thing is I can change it to Y instead of LB + RB on xbox one because I am already using the Chronus Max Plus to be able to play with my Legacy controls! But for now, because I guess also being used to the destiny supers hasn't been too bad, and I can see it being beneficial in those situations where I want to use that power while being able to look and move at the same time with the thumbs on the thumbsticks.
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Post by DragonRacer on Mar 17, 2017 18:59:51 GMT
Had to do this in Destiny and also in ESO, so I'm used to the two-button power activation.
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Post by cameronlfc on Mar 17, 2017 19:01:23 GMT
It was alright for me, I had pull on Right bumper, so when I went to throw, (which is LB+RB) you just press the left one as well and it worked fine.
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Post by xhal on Mar 17, 2017 19:03:31 GMT
PC MASTER RACE!!!!!
JK I sometimes play with a controller and also find having to press 2 buttons a really bad idea.
They should've found another solution.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 19:03:41 GMT
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 17, 2017 19:15:09 GMT
Re: Destiny - it's fine if it's activating a Super or something sporadic. Using it for something you rely on as a staple power isn't such a great thing.
And with the Supers, they could even program in a 5 frame buffer during which you can animation cancel a standard power into the Super. This ensures that the Super will come out even if your controller sucks. I don't know if Destiny does this, but if I was Destiny, I would do this.
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Post by Beerfish on Mar 17, 2017 19:25:41 GMT
I said this was a terrible decision from the moment i heard about it months ago.
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Post by Mobius Y on Mar 17, 2017 19:45:56 GMT
Just seems like dumb button mapping to me. I'm sure I won't have a problem adapting to it though.
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Post by Beerfish on Mar 17, 2017 19:48:49 GMT
One added issue is, for me, those buttons bugger up a lot faster on the controller, than the ABXY buttons. And in the excitement of a game I do not gently tap them. It is also harder on the wrist long term using those buttons than the thumb for one of the powers.
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Post by Mobius Y on Mar 17, 2017 19:49:41 GMT
I'm not sure how it is on PC or PS4 but on Xbox you need to press the top 2 bumpers to activate a main ability. My issue is that you cannot change this under controller settings. This is a bad design choice IMO. For example sometimes I don't press them in unison and then I throw sticky grenade instead of cloaking. In ME3 it was one button to activate any ability. At least give us the option to change this under settings or remove this entirely. Despite having not played the trial, I agree with this. I still have nightmares from For Honor and trying to press both the light and heavy attack buttons together to initiate an area attack, and then wind up doing a random heavy attack at nothing. Um, most zone attacks are an alternative heavy with wider range. |
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Post by 1hr account still not approved on Mar 17, 2017 19:52:30 GMT
How in 2017 can consoles still not have fully mappable controls!? Must take so many dev hours to implement. Better to spend the time on charter animation and net code... Oh Wait... If they had not split the "A" button from ME3 into 3 buttons for super l337 t4tic4l play maybe they would have been able to design a decent default. Mantle and jump could be 1 button if they made it only dodge forward when pressing the button and the stick. Then we could have a proper 3 button power layout, but now we have this. I can only image how drunk/stupid someone at Biower had to be to think a control scheme with "shoot" on the A button was a good idea. All my rage would completely subside if they came out and said they can fix/change control schemes in a patch but knowing Biower that system can't be touched with a patch and we are all screwed.
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Post by dm5k on Mar 17, 2017 19:54:32 GMT
I have never played destiny so I wouldn't know. But this ISN'T Destiny. Having to push 2 buttons to activate a power in MEA multiplayer is dumb. As I said before ME3 multiplayer didn't do this and there is no reason to force us to do this now.
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Post by n7ltrobbiesann7 on Mar 17, 2017 19:57:52 GMT
One added issue is, for me, those buttons bugger up a lot faster on the controller, than the ABXY buttons. And in the excitement of a game I do not gently tap them. It is also harder on the wrist long term using those buttons than the thumb for one of the powers. /WARNING - TMI!!! Dr. Rob recommends alternating hands while monkey spanking. It will: A) feel super funky using the other hand,  strengthen the fingers, wrists, and forearms, and C) feelsa sofa king gooood. Yes, I practice this and through dedicated practice +10 controller dexterity and +15 hardness (damage resistance) and +50 Oh yeahs! Mucking about aside, I agree this was an odd thing to do. However with the implementation of evade, it was simply easier for them to go this route. As other's have said, this feature is used in Destiny, and while I played it, you just got used to it. For anyone on XB1 who is using a regular controller, consider getting the Elite controller—despite it's hefty price. Solid construction, and the ability to map to the paddles. I can tell you that having run, jump, evade, and camera switch on the paddles makes it much easier. |
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Post by MajorAssman on Mar 17, 2017 20:01:59 GMT
Played human Vanguard for over 20 missions, nova was a staple and never had an issue with it. Though fully mappable controls on console would be nice.
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Post by Just want to control my game on Mar 17, 2017 20:09:38 GMT
How is it easier to implement full keybindings for pc where keyboards and layouts can be quite drastically different, but consoles with a standard control interface can not get that. WHY?!
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Post by dm5k on Mar 17, 2017 20:56:43 GMT
One added issue is, for me, those buttons bugger up a lot faster on the controller, than the ABXY buttons. And in the excitement of a game I do not gently tap them. It is also harder on the wrist long term using those buttons than the thumb for one of the powers. /WARNING - TMI!!! Dr. Rob recommends alternating hands while monkey spanking. It will: A) feel super funky using the other hand, strengthen the fingers, wrists, and forearms, and C) feelsa sofa king gooood. Yes, I practice this and through dedicated practice +10 controller dexterity and +15 hardness (damage resistance) and +50 Oh yeahs! Mucking about aside, I agree this was an odd thing to do. However with the implementation of evade, it was simply easier for them to go this route. As other's have said, this feature is used in Destiny, and while I played it, you just got used to it. For anyone on XB1 who is using a regular controller, consider getting the Elite controller—despite it's hefty price. Solid construction, and the ability to map to the paddles. I can tell you that having run, jump, evade, and camera switch on the paddles makes it much easier. Can you map both top bumpers into one button though? We shouldn't have to spend $150 to fix this. My gamer girlfriend agrees that the 2 button thing is really bad and she's been playing ME3 multiplayer longer than I have. |
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strengthen the fingers, wrists, and forearms, and C) feelsa sofa king gooood. Yes, I practice this and through dedicated practice +10 controller dexterity and +15 hardness (damage resistance) and +50 Oh yeahs!