First Run of Origins through to Inquisition in 2017

Yup. You get a slide after Trespasser, where the Inquisitor gets Blackwall's badge and a Griffon feather. Don't remember if there was a letter, but the two items made it quite clear what happened. 
You don't get the slide as a friend, but there was a twitter post from his writer that says he still dies, but the wardens just notify romanced Inquisitors. 

Granted, the twitter post and epilogue slide do leave a little space for turning it into: He was just missing. Got trapped in a dwarven bubble or something.
Otherwise, the companions will all die eventually. A few years pass until Quizzy gets the badge, so it's less that you killed him and more he found his end earlier than expected.

That sounds cool! Fenris is so sexy with his multilingual but can't read adorableness.

I'm playing anti Qunari this game so I must try hard not to earn his respect. It's actually too easy to earn it

See, and I think you may not be giving it enough credit. I always felt the Darkspawn in DAO were more a force of nature. A hurricane seen off the coast due to arrive any minute. As a force of nature, they couldn't be stopped, and all our efforts were to make the blow as painless as possible. With there actually being a slim chance of stopping it at all. Given the history of all the other Blights lasting a minimum of 12 years with a maximum of over 100 years in length? Only due to it being a video game was it ended at all in under a year. The true antagonist is Loghain with the Darkspawn a background darkness. It was mindless and in it's near mindlessness lay the source of fear for my. Why I dislike Loghain so much; the Darkspawn could have kicked in hardcore any time and he's got is head in the sand pretending it's not happening, entrenched in his Orlesian paranoia as he was. In this case, if it'd been like ME2, when you can't spare time after certain events or you get worse and worse endings, it would have been awesome. Like, apparently after the Landsmeet you can go do a bunch of stuff and then finally get around to actually starting the Final Battle. Talk about never occurring to me! That'd be immersion breaking to me.  Despite ending it as soon as we did, there was still major destruction. 10 years later, Denerim is still rebuilding and there have been problems with lingering Blight in the south of Fereldan. The Quest in Crestwood in DAI with the Mayor reminds you that the Blight still had major costs, and that even Victory came with great pain.

Making them intelligent and insane in Awakening made the species more complex but totally ruined the Force of Nature I appreciated them being in the first game.

I also liked it's medevil-ness appearance. I agree about the duty and honor. confused about the history vs memory comment.



yes! It's all good stuff. ^^ Although I've debated the lack of change and hard nosed Hawke with lots of specific examples regarding killing and personalities. I am confused about the "Hawke to Iconic Hawke" you mention, what do you mean?



Yeah, no one missed that part. But depending on relationship, it is not so much throwing himself at Hawke's mercy. I've strongly debated elsewhere that Anders has a martyr complex. Friended, it's particularly frustrating; calm and collected, he has no regrets about what he just did. and a chunk of the fandom believe he actually wants Hawke to kill him. Expects it. NEver even considers being spared. But Rivaled? He is deeply troubled, conflicted, the sheerest sliver of regret comes through. When I killed rivalled Anders for the first time, his last words were, "I'm only surprised you didn't do it sooner."


I'll do your DAI comments in another post.

1. I "rushed" my first PT but suffered from 12 hours in the Hinterlands; closing rifts, killing endless bears, no idea where anything is.... I nearly stopped playing the game entirely, so confused as to what had destroyed the game for me. Luckily I went online and found the "10 things I wish I'd known about DAI before playing." Number 1, I think, was to get the hell out of the Hinterlands. The minute I followed that advice, In Hushed Whispers happened and the game was just as addictive as I'd hoped it'd be as it took off in one grand quest after another. Then I played two comprehensive completionist type PTs and realized...wow. So much of this was obviously optional since I didn't play it the first time. I've gotten it pretty nailed down as of my 4th PT, as to what I actually enjoy doing vs "WTF why am I playing this" feeling.  But that's not a Benefit many first players have. Which is why I reached out to you and other new players any time they come onto the forum. 

2. Some people want this totally empty background to allow for more RP freedom. But I want in game support for my RP decisions and if I decide, as one player did, that her Inquisitor had been in a magical accident that placed her in Thedas....adn that she was actually a Drow who worshipped the Spider Queen  from the world of DnD transplanted to Thedas... you aren't going to get any in game support for that. She played an evil power hungry Inquistor, and it's super unique, but her character will never get to admit the truth or say anything to the effect of what she really is. I've stretched the open ended start to create a 50 year old Dalish Elf of Justice called Fen'asha'nan by her people but I also know that 75% of all that is in my head. But at least this Dalish I created is actually Dalish and from the clan Lavellan. This really open background thing is more of a Skyrim thing, and I didn't like Skyrim. I like being able to talk about my relationship with my people and my clan and there is a whole, what, 2-3 questions about it? from companions if you're Dalish? The same two questions you get regardless of race and never gets referenced again? (except for whether you're Andrastian.) SIGH. i must remind myself that multiple races was added later in development. I love the Origins and I SUPER loved Hawke, but I similarly would not like them to stay human only. I don't even know why Adromeda didn't take the chance to let ppl go multispecies now that they'd cut off Shepard.

3.I agree. Bad Antagonist was bad. Only Mini Boss I recall as interesting was Alexius. I was going to say Luscious, but then he ended up being one of those crazy "cleanse the world with an apocalypse" nutjobs and he lost credibility too.  We closed the Breech too early, so even the Force of Nature fears weren't there. you could do anything you wanted for nearly forever with no consequences-- making Corypheus look even dumber..... but... Originally Solas was to reveal himself in base game. I kinda squint and just say that the bad Antagonist was to help hide the truly masterful antagonist in your own party.  People have worries that they will weaken Solas in the next game to allow him to be beaten and we'd all be sorely disappointed. Solas needs to always be one step ahead and only something totally unexpected be used to defeat him. Like allying with the Evanuris, or Mythall reborn, or the last two Old God Souls coming to bear. Or Titans! something huge.

4. I love Dragon Age Keep. ^^ especially with corruptible computers. And as an atheist, I've really really enjoyed roleplaying different faiths in this game. I've done shrug agnostic, vehement atheist, devout Dalish, and looking forward to my devout Andrastian and devout Paragon/Stone characters. This is one area DAI does that wasn't done at all? in DAO and DA2. You can even insist on Dalish Wedding Vows with Cullen. 

Okay, here is my first take on summarizing the Trespasser. I'll need to come back to it later still.

Trespasser DLC is extremely rich lore-wise, world-changing in some aspects, and sets up the most intriguing stage for the next game. The villain it introduces is by far the best take on a heart wrenchingly likable but implacable opponent. Should the next game happen, both the venerable Jonoleth Irenicus and Sarevok will be sorely challenged by him as the BioWARE’s most intriguing villain.

The pacing of the story is excellent, until it inexplicably slows down and goes back to mowing down through the mob in a confusing and hard to navigate environment.

In terms of closure for the entire Inquisition game, Trespasser failed me terribly. I felt that my Inquisitor was left in the position Cinderella would have been in, should the prince never started his shoe drive of hope and married a lovely noblewoman instead. Barfoot, destitute, and with a memory of that one ball, and the glorious life that had almost happened, but ultimately irrelevant. It was not bitter-sweet. It was final and bitter. Disney completely re-wrote the actual Little Mermaid story for that very reason… except the Little Mermaid in the original was still happier than the Inquisitor, because she was granted her ultimate desire, an immortal soul, in exchange for all her losses in the mortal life.

Au contraire, that was actually the only thing I did not mind about the ending. It's my Inquisitor's personal fate that crushed my heart, soul, and desire to go on. The game should come with a "Don't get attached!" warning. It's so depressing that I would have taken the suicide option if it were available to him.

Posted already in this thread:

bsn.boards.net/thread/1200/dragon-age-confessions-thread?page=27

And NO, I do NOT care about the Iron Bull! I've liked killing him! Relished it! What I did not like... is that his minor tiny episode, his character at all, mattered more to the South of the Realms to form their opinion on Qunari, Kothis, whatever, than my impeccable record of heroic deeds and passing the ultimate test a man can face. Walking away from power. Also, Iron Bull gets a better ending with Dorian than I do, if he romanced Dorian! Anyway. I am a big jealous and pathetic Qunari. I can't take being a broken alpha male. It brings out all the hidden insecurities. It sucks to be me.

Also, good thing I did not want to play an elf-maiden. What did they got from Solas: "Sorry, babe, I've always loved Mythal. Hope you, like, move on, and find a nice boy your age. Oh, don't forget that Inquisition thinggie you're into. It's cute." ???

Like I said, I like tragic love stories. If the Solavellan story doesn't end with Lavellan sliding a dagger between his ribs while crying I'll be disappointed.

...I may have issues.

Well, aren't you a Debbie downer.

Anyway, if you want reasons, I can provide some. Bioware has unambiguously telegraphed that the Inquisitor will be a driving force behind the fight against Solas. This obviously could result in them getting a largely offscreen role or just being a prominent NPC with all the attendant problems. However, Bioware also received a lot of flack for their handling of Hawke which they are quite aware of. So it is not unreasonable to think a dual protagonist situation giving the player control of the returning character without stealing the spotlight from the new PC is a possibility.

Also, there is no information we have been given that suggests losing the anchor disrupted the Inquisitor's magical abilities. They might do that in DA4, but that ultimately depends on how critical the Inquisitor being unable to fight is to the plot. In the scenario I outlined, it really isn't. And I see no reason lore wise why the Inquisitor couldn't carry just the Fade sword or just the staff to use, or just drop the staff to use the Fade sword.

I'm well aware of the hurdles. They don't convince me Bioware is unwilling to tackle it. They aren't slaved to only repeat what they've done before. They've even done switching to other characters before, such as the Fort Drakon rescue in DAO, for brief periods. This isn't entirely outside their wheelhouse.

Plus, it should be less labor intensive if, as I suggested, the Inquisitor's portions forgo combat and are extremely limited in scope compared to the "main game" protagonist.

And lastly, I guess, I just don't see a reason to be so convinced the mage Inquisitor has been turned into a muggle. It is really entirely dependent on what they want to do with the Inquisitor's story.

EDIT: And while I'm thinking about it, DA4 has had an unusually long preproduction period, supposedly at least from shortly after Trespasser was released to the start of this year. So they've had a long time to spend planning as well as prototyping and testing new systems. So I'm optimistic about the possibility.