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Post by Darth_Atreyu on Mar 20, 2017 16:14:44 GMT
"This is porn. And it looks weird"
A direct quote from the review of Mass Effect Andromeda on IGN. When I started a thread about how putting full nudity and sex in Andromeda was a mistake instead of the more tasteful and less pornographic of the trilogy; I got the usual sophistry, bull and condescension about being a snowflake, rather than seeing that it just doesn't fit.
They tried to do too many things at once and as I feared, ended up doing all of them with a half-measure.
They need to fire all the people that didn't deliver, starting with the creative, technical and writing team. And hire Casey Hudson back asap. It shouldn't be personal.
EDIT: I've seen even more of the "romance" scenes and it's just abysmal. Why did one of the greatest sci-fi properties turn into a softcore porn simulator. What is going on?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 16:19:02 GMT
Let the folks that complained that F2B is not enough to see what the alternative is like. Skip cutscene is presumably still available on the content if it looks silly. TBH, Jack's mascara running onto Shepard's muscular chest was not particularly romantic....
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 20, 2017 16:21:15 GMT
So you found one reviewer to justify your viewpoint.
Congratulations. I'm sure there are others out there like you.
Snowflakes.
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Post by London on Mar 20, 2017 16:59:58 GMT
So you found one reviewer to justify your viewpoint. Congratulations. I'm sure there are others out there like you. Snowflakes. Don't worry no porn for us to watch anyway. Fade to black. |
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 20, 2017 17:02:34 GMT
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Post by RevN7 on Mar 20, 2017 19:09:36 GMT
Well that's actually what the reviewer's wife noted not the actual reviewer. But he even notes it's tasteful. I don't see what the issue is. From what I've read the romance scenes are some of the best parts of the game and the best they've ever been animated as well.
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Post by Vall on Mar 20, 2017 19:22:51 GMT
So you found one reviewer to justify your viewpoint. Congratulations. I'm sure there are others out there like you. Snowflakes. Don't worry no porn for us to watch anyway. Fade to black. You're not the only ones, Vetra also has fade to black (I wanted to see naked turian damnit!) |
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Post by Iakus on Mar 20, 2017 19:42:51 GMT
I have no idea what Bioware was trying to accomplish, aside from trying to Out-Witcher The Witcher.
Those zots could have been better spent improving facial animations and providing alternate outfits for the crew.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 20, 2017 19:45:42 GMT
I have no idea what Bioware was trying to accomplish, aside from trying to Out-Witcher The Witcher. Those zots could have been better spent improving facial animations and providing alternate outfits for the crew. What do outfits have to do with animations. What zots do they have in common?  |
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Post by Iakus on Mar 20, 2017 20:18:48 GMT
I have no idea what Bioware was trying to accomplish, aside from trying to Out-Witcher The Witcher. Those zots could have been better spent improving facial animations and providing alternate outfits for the crew. What do outfits have to do with animations. What zots do they have in common? Aside from time and money? |
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 20, 2017 20:23:59 GMT
Not porn for me. Fade to black and talk of babies. Thanks Bioware Montreal. You got your progressive points while really not being particularly kind at all. |
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 20, 2017 20:26:29 GMT
What do outfits have to do with animations. What zots do they have in common? Aside from time and money? That's not how it works. |
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Post by Iakus on Mar 20, 2017 20:29:00 GMT
Aside from time and money? That's not how it works. How about "I'd rather we had more Peebee skins than an explicit shot of her in her skin. |
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 20, 2017 20:31:36 GMT
How about "I'd rather we had more Peebee skins than an explicit shot of her in her skin. I'm just saying you're mixing departments. Outfit designs are handled by artists, approved by concept designers, and implemented to fit the skeletal frame of the subject. Animations have nothing to do with any of that. Saying that they'll cut 5$ there and put 5$ elsewhere is inapplicable. It's not a zero-sum production. |
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Post by Iakus on Mar 20, 2017 20:34:49 GMT
How about "I'd rather we had more Peebee skins than an explicit shot of her in her skin. I'm just saying you're mixing departments. Outfit designs are handled by artists, approved by concept designers, and implemented to fit the skeletal frame of the subject. Animations have nothing to do with any of that. Saying that they'll cut 5$ there and put 5$ elsewhere is inapplicable. It's not a zero-sum production. And judging by how detailed and graphic the sex scenes that I've seen are, they must have cost a pretty penny to make. Even if it's not a zero sum game, I'm pretty sure those resources could have been better spent elsewhere. Even if it was fixing animations elsewhere. |
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 20, 2017 20:36:52 GMT
And judging by how detailed and graphic the sex scenes that I've seen are, they must have cost a pretty penny to make. Even if it's not a zero sum game, I'm pretty sure those resources could have been better spent elsewhere. Even if it was fixing animations elsewhere. Not all of them. Most are fade to black. I mean if they cut every feature we didn't like and improved those that we liked, we'd all be happier. Point is we don't all agree on what's what. |
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Post by ulmanicator on Mar 20, 2017 20:39:33 GMT
Since it isn't a fox news site, I doubt you'll get a lot of support on this issue.
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Post by London on Mar 20, 2017 20:39:56 GMT
Not porn for me. Fade to black and talk of babies. Thanks Bioware Montreal. You got your progressive points while really not being particularly kind at all. Is this: Gil's Romance? Sounds awful.... |
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Post by Iakus on Mar 20, 2017 20:42:04 GMT
Not porn for me. Fade to black and talk of babies. Thanks Bioware Montreal. You got your progressive points while really not being particularly kind at all. Actually sounds wonderful. I am not being sarcastic at all when I say I envy you. |
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Mar 20, 2017 21:56:53 GMT
<Stuff> Casey Hudson back asap. <Stuff> Oh... no, bring someone fresh or with a better career history. |
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Post by Detcelfer on Mar 20, 2017 21:59:46 GMT
Since it isn't a fox news site, I doubt you'll get a lot of support on this issue. So you're saying that if you don't care for excessive amounts of porn, that you're a Fox News person? Give me a break. HBO does it and does it better while typically telling a better story and not making it look like a desperate attempt to play out someone's sexual fantasy in the process. Also, HBO doesn't make the mistake of generally having ONLY ugly people doing it. |
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Post by qunaripenis on Mar 20, 2017 22:07:10 GMT
Not porn for me. Fade to black and talk of babies. Thanks Bioware Montreal. You got your progressive points while really not being particularly kind at all. Ugh, I don't want any fucking kids ever, fictional or non-fictional. I just wanna be a cum dump. |
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Post by degs29 on Mar 20, 2017 22:37:49 GMT
Anything can be executed poorly...even facial animations! lol
And also sex scenes.
I don't think it's a mistake to put full frontal in. But it depends on how well you pull it off.
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Post by cobalt72 on Mar 20, 2017 22:43:18 GMT
Porn? I've only watched a few videos since I don't have the game yet. But "porn" to me usually entails full frontal nudity. Which romance has that? I need to know!
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Post by Saboru on Mar 20, 2017 22:43:56 GMT
Since it isn't a fox news site, I doubt you'll get a lot of support on this issue. So you're saying that if you don't care for excessive amounts of porn, that you're a Fox News person? Give me a break. HBO does it and does it better while typically telling a better story and not making it look like a desperate attempt to play out someone's sexual fantasy in the process. Also, HBO doesn't make the mistake of generally having ONLY ugly people doing it. It's one of those irregular verbs isn't it: I am watching tastful erotica which is necessary for the story You are indulging your base sexual fantasies He/She is a raging nonce |
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