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Post by jasonpogo on Mar 22, 2017 12:52:07 GMT
So MEA is not your fav game ever? That's fine. But I just don't get where all the hate is coming from. The writing is on par with other Bioware games. Seriously anyone acting like ME 1,2,3 were Shakespear compared to this game are delusional. The game looks great. Yes the facial animations are not great but it's not so bad you can't injoy the game. People acting like this game is a mess just baffles me. Maybe not a master peace but def a good game.
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Post by brad2240 on Mar 22, 2017 12:57:52 GMT
The internet overacts to everything, both good and bad. So they latched on to a few less-than-great aspects of the game and made mountains out molehills. Also, hating on BW is apparently a "cool" thing to do.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 22, 2017 13:02:02 GMT
When a quarter of the metacritic reviews include a variation of "SJW pandering to trans and lesbians"...
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 22, 2017 13:11:13 GMT
I understand the gripes, but I do think a lot of reactions are vastly overblown as far as I can see. In terms of writing, I haven't really experience anything notably inferior to the original trilogy. I'm not going to call it some kind of masterpiece, but it ain't dreck either. But then, "poor writing" is a criticism used so often that I automatically disregard it. The graphics are a definite step down from my expectations, but I can deal with that so long as it's not some kind of crazy derezz or something.
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Post by urkibalurki on Mar 22, 2017 13:21:41 GMT
I'm starting to suspect that many of these haters have never played a single minute of the game. They are the same people who rant about ME:A since 2015, and the same who totally spoiled the Metacritics user score by bombing it with thousands of fake profiles and low scores. Tripadvisor for games, forever! So far I've played about 15 hours of the game and liked it.
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Post by shechinah on Mar 22, 2017 13:24:05 GMT
I understand the gripes, but I do think a lot of reactions are vastly overblown as far as I can see. In terms of writing, I haven't really experience anything notably inferior to the original trilogy. I'm not going to call it some kind of masterpiece, but it ain't dreck either. But then, "poor writing" is a criticism used so often that I automatically disregard it. The trilogy wasn't exactly free from odd choices either when it came to the writing and dialogue. We had a thread about this and we had a thread about the writing decisions we found questionable or nonsensical. There are memes of these moments. If anything, Mass Effect: Andromeda would be carrying on the torch
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Post by correctamundo on Mar 22, 2017 13:32:19 GMT
It's not like "The whatever other game - insert favourite number here" does not include a fair share of "cringe-worthy" dialogue either. It's there in those games. I've played them.
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Post by neocodex and 23 others on Mar 22, 2017 13:45:41 GMT
The internet overacts to everything, both good and bad. So they latched on to a few less-than-great aspects of the game and made mountains out molehills. Also, hating on BW is apparently a "cool" thing to do. Exactly this, everybody jumped on the hate hype train, because it's the current most popular thing to do, is hate on MEA even tough like, most people who did not or won't even play it will still hate it. Please tell me how many players on these forums that actually played it have a problem with the game? I'm loving it so far and I'm well over 10 hours. The internet is just fucking stupid. P.S.:I agree with some of the lines being more cheesy or weirder than ever, and yes, sometimes the voice acting really does seem out of character (something I never noticed in a previous ME or DA titles), and stranger animations than what is common for a Bioware schenanigan, and this is why the game is just bad right now? Give me a break. Those people never even cared about the game in the first place. If they would, they could have looked past it, right now it's like gaming is all about realistic facial animations and perfect scripts. Who the fuck cares about facial animations in a game where it dumps you with an interesting, MASSIVE lore exposition, an immersive world and deep reasoning behind every piece of tech and history. This universe has better exposition than the original Star Wars ever had. But yeah, let's bitch on the facial animations because that's all that matters in the games these days.
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Post by unwanted on Mar 22, 2017 14:00:28 GMT
I would say the hate comes from the fact that no game developer would have the gall to make a CC and facial animation this bad and expect people to seriously except it. Fan's feel as if Bioware have physically slapped them in the face hard, and then said 'what's the matter it was only a friendly slap', you should be thanking me.
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Post by neocodex and 23 others on Mar 22, 2017 14:08:33 GMT
I would say the hate comes from the fact that no game developer would have the gall to make a CC and facial animation this bad and expect people to seriously except it. Fan's feel as if Bioware have physically slapped them in the face hard, and then said 'what's the matter it was only a friendly slap', you should be thanking me. I dislike the animations just as the next person but I'm not telling everyone on the internet that the game is shit because of it.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 22, 2017 14:14:20 GMT
The internet overacts to everything, both good and bad. So they latched on to a few less-than-great aspects of the game and made mountains out molehills. Also, hating on BW is apparently a "cool" thing to do. Exactly this, everybody jumped on the hate hype train, because it's the current most popular thing to do, is hate on MEA even tough like, most people who did not or won't even play it will still hate it. Please tell me how many players on these forums that actually played it have a problem with the game? I'm loving it so far and I'm well over 10 hours. The internet is just fucking stupid. P.S.:I agree with some of the lines being more cheesy or weirder than ever, and yes, sometimes the voice acting really does seem out of character (something I never noticed in a previous ME or DA titles), and stranger animations than what is common for a Bioware schenanigan, and this is why the game is just bad right now? Give me a break. Those people never even cared about the game in the first place. If they would, they could have looked past it, right now it's like gaming is all about realistic facial animations and perfect scripts. Who the fuck cares about facial animations in a game where it dumps you with massive LORE, an immersive world and deep reasoning behind every piece of tech and history, this universe has better exposition than the original Star Wars ever had. But yeah, let's bitch on the facial animations because that's all that matters in the games these days. The voice acting, yeah.. even just in the first few hours I played. Salarians sound strange. Director Tann's voice is high pitch but he speaks so slowly. I always got the impression Mordin and other salarians just had their voices sped up. He sounds like he's just reading a script too. I can't say that doesn't go for some minor NPC's in the trilogy too, of course, but most of them were pretty good. Another was the guy inside the building on Eos who won't open the door. he sounds old and weathered, but when you finally see him he looks like a 20 years old. (and why isn't that face model available as a preset.. lol) I'm just going to disagree on the 'deep reasoning behind tech' and leave it at that though.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 22, 2017 14:16:53 GMT
I haven't heard Tann's voice until just yesterday and I have to say I don't get what the fuss is about.
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Post by rockmsockm on Mar 22, 2017 14:17:16 GMT
I would say the hate comes from the fact that no game developer would have the gall to make a CC and facial animation this bad and expect people to seriously except it. Fan's feel as if Bioware have physically slapped them in the face hard, and then said 'what's the matter it was only a friendly slap', you should be thanking me. I dislike the animations just as the next person but I'm not telling everyone on the internet that the game is shit because of it. There really isn't a single game that has done high def facial animations decently. There certainly isn't an rpg on the market that did it in game and not just rendered cut scenes. The more technology advances, the more they struggle with faces. After DAI, who would of expected Bioware to ace this department? Skyrim was comical at its very best, and riddled with even more bugs, but I still enjoyed it. I think I will be fine.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 22, 2017 14:19:49 GMT
I haven't heard Tann's voice until just yesterday and I have to say I don't get what the fuss is about. Mentioning it one time is 'fuss'?
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Post by sriep on Mar 22, 2017 14:19:58 GMT
Don't like the eyes but apart from that its fine. I am sure someone will mod better eyes at some point. Had the game freeze one time just after arriving at the Nexus. Maybe not perfect but can't please everyone all the time.
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Post by unwanted on Mar 22, 2017 14:21:27 GMT
I would say the hate comes from the fact that no game developer would have the gall to make a CC and facial animation this bad and expect people to seriously except it. Fan's feel as if Bioware have physically slapped them in the face hard, and then said 'what's the matter it was only a friendly slap', you should be thanking me. I dislike the animations just as the next person but I'm not telling everyone on the internet that the game is shit because of it. I agree, but this will not stop people from seeking some form of revenge for what they see as a personal affront. They wish to return Bioware's suspect, friendly slap. When all said and done this should never have gotten past Biowares QC. They have only themselves to blame.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 22, 2017 14:22:06 GMT
Don't like the eyes but apart from that its fine. I am sure someone will mod better eyes at some point. Had the game freeze one time just after arriving at the Nexus. Maybe not perfect but can't please everyone all the time. Nor should they try. There is far more angst about negative reviews and comments that actual bad reviews and comments. Relax people. It's ok that some people don't like the same things you do. Bioware isn't going to take back the game because of it.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 22, 2017 14:22:13 GMT
I haven't heard Tann's voice until just yesterday and I have to say I don't get what the fuss is about. Mentioning it one time is 'fuss'? Sorry, to clarify I didn't mean you specifically, but I'm recalling a thread about the voice that made more of it than was really there.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 22, 2017 14:22:22 GMT
Based off everyone heres reactions I have no problem strolling in tomorrow and picking the game up first thing.
It all seems like minor stuff to complain about to me. At least I know its going to be a bit buggy and a bit messy now, rather than having it jump me like Inquisition did.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 22, 2017 14:23:19 GMT
I would say the hate comes from the fact that no game developer would have the gall to make a CC and facial animation this bad and expect people to seriously except it. Fan's feel as if Bioware have physically slapped them in the face hard, and then said 'what's the matter it was only a friendly slap', you should be thanking me. Most games have no CC options at all. Those that do usually let you customize one or two things at most. Most games have scripted encounters presented in a linear fashion with little to no dialogue. or dialogue that is only between the NPC and the player. I would say that many players like you like to make arguments in bubbles with little regard for context.
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Post by azarhal on Mar 22, 2017 14:23:28 GMT
I haven't heard Tann's voice until just yesterday and I have to say I don't get what the fuss is about. It's like with Kresh's voice, it doesn't fit pre-conceived notions so people think it's bad. Although, in Kresh cases, it's like people don't realize she's even a female. I personally though Tann's slow voice made him sound more sleazy and like he didn't think highly of you. He's not some hyper scientists or nerdy ship pilot.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 22, 2017 14:25:48 GMT
Based off everyone heres reactions I have no problem strolling in tomorrow and picking the game up first thing. It all seems like minor stuff to complain about to me. At least I know its going to be a bit buggy and a bit messy now, rather than having it jump me like Inquisition did. Based on what I've played of the PC version, I'll wait until you all are finished the beta test That said, the PC version is a heck of a lot better than DAI. I got weird slowdowns and crashes during cutscenes a few times too many though. That coupled with no saves in certain locations made it a no buy for me.
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Post by ract1523 on Mar 22, 2017 14:26:11 GMT
So MEA is not your fav game ever? That's fine. But I just don't get where all the hate is coming from. The writing is on par with other Bioware games. Seriously anyone acting like ME 1,2,3 were Shakespear compared to this game are delusional. The game looks great. Yes the facial animations are not great but it's not so bad you can't injoy the game. People acting like this game is a mess just baffles me. Maybe not a master peace but def a good game. I'm still waiting for the game to unlock tomorrow (23rd), but from the 10hrs of the trial version I have to agree with you. I don't understand the hate, the game (mostly) looks good, the writing is (mostly) fine, and I am enjoying the game and looking forward to being able to play the rest of it. It's not a masterpiece (so far, for all I know the writing and game may get better further into the game), but it is a good game.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 22, 2017 14:26:45 GMT
I rather like Kresh myself. I enjoyed the little intro when first arriving to the Nexus.
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Post by correctamundo on Mar 22, 2017 14:29:48 GMT
I haven't heard Tann's voice until just yesterday and I have to say I don't get what the fuss is about. It's like with Kresh's voice, it doesn't fit pre-conceived notions so people think it's bad. Although, in Kresh cases, it's like people don't realize she's even a female. I personally though Tann's slow voice made him sound more sleazy and like he didn't think highly of you. He's not some hyper scientists or nerdy ship pilot. Never trust an accountant.
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