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Post by shriex on Mar 27, 2017 18:44:22 GMT
OP, thank you very much for posting this. Your Sara Ryder looks great.
I've been struggling with this: the "default / iconic" Sara Ryder is what brought me into the game, but her translation looks like a downs syndrome explosion in a wet clay factory.
I was going to wait until I could snag a good sale, but then I realized that the cute little brunette character with the wonky smile that I was seeing in previews wasn't a minor crew member, but the official player / sister character. Something about it hooked me. I think it's because the Sara design Bioware went with is a somewhat bold choice; she isn't a smoldering sexpot warrior princess, like how FemShep is often depicted. This one looks... pretty, but normal. Like the cute neighborhood Starbucks barista. The fact that she can also kick legions of alien ass, and seemed to ooze trippy personality, and rocks a suite of N7 armor like no tomorrow, was an instant sale.
Problem is, Bioware did an absolute crap job with the character models in this game. Not just SisRyder, but nearly all the females. I hope some major patching is coming to fix this.
In the meantime, OP, congrats, your Sara Ryder looks like a better depiction than Bioware's. It looks like you've captured her personality, while just professionalizing her design a bit. I'm looking forward to trying her out.
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Post by shriex on Mar 27, 2017 18:55:40 GMT
I kind of feel like everyone will think their Ryder is the best, because it's tough to be unbiased about your own work of art. I agree this is true, but what I think the OP is getting at is trying to depict the "Iconic" Sara Ryder, better than Bioware has done themselves. I.E., there are many options to create a SisRyder that meets your personal standards of beauty, even with the crappy CC - check out Mass Effect Archives and browse by "most likes" (upper top right corner if I recall). There's some good work there that you can use as a starting point. I was easily able to make a SisRyder who was smoldering hot, more like FemShep. But... she just wasn't the girl I signed on for.
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Post by The Twilight God on Mar 27, 2017 19:47:53 GMT
I thought the point was that this face model doesn't glitch and look like a corpse. Not that it's the prettiest.
Is anyone else claiming their face has:
No flappy lips.
No giant eyes.
Smiles look like smiles.
All expressions and animations so far have been as good (or better) than Default Sara (now this one is iffy because they can be better than default and still be shit.)
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Post by AnDromedary on Mar 27, 2017 19:59:21 GMT
I wanted to make a "fixed" version of default Sara that didn't look to have such exagerrated features. Pretty content with how she turned out: That's amazing! Wish I could change my default Sara Ryder mid-playthrough to this one. I am a bit too far along to go back now. Here is hoping we'll get mid-game character customization eventually.
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Post by chugster on Mar 28, 2017 8:47:36 GMT
Yay, pics of Sara! I like mine! I can haz Archive link plz?
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Post by chugster on Mar 28, 2017 8:47:48 GMT
Ehhhhh... I know it's nepotism, hahaha, but I personally think my Sara looks a lot prettier I can haz Archive link plz? Sorry for double post, can't see how to multiquote on this forum.
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Post by Sumerian Physics on Mar 28, 2017 11:15:00 GMT
Any chance she's on the Archive? She looks awesome. Got the sliders for her? She looks great. masseffectarchives.com/#user/1004845637729/playthrough/1422943762/gender/femaleThanks a bunch @ you both. Yeah I didn't do any sliders but this is her on the archives. Be forewarned: she might be slightly off. I tinkered with like 3 or 4 different Z'Mija. At one point she was blonde Zmija meaning viper? [/quote] Aha, you got it! I even forgot that's how I got her name. I figured she would be my first attempt at a cerebral, deceptive Ryder (so much for that huh? but the dialogue has it's moments)
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Post by shriex on Mar 28, 2017 14:44:07 GMT
So I tried the OP's SisRyder last night; it's good work, but not for me. Issue isn't with the OPs designs, but with the limitations of the CC and animations. The mouth wasn't working right in side profile; there's a pronounced underbite, but not enough options in the CC to tweak it. The end result was some pretty weird frog-face reactions in certain scenes.
The other issue I'm finding with custom characters is none of them can recreate SisRyder's personality. The iconic Sara wears a near-permanent smile, which can be happy or pained (as in the famous gun-disarming clip). She's not a hardened "space marine." What I like about Bioware's version is that she is in fact "a character," as opposed to a player avatar, or the thousand-yard-stare lingerie model that is typical in most sci fi RFPs (I'm guilty of making plenty of them).
Anyway, I think I'll stick with Bioware's version, as flawed as the rendition in-game is at times. Bioware, if you're visiting these forums - your work on the characters isn't done, guys. Patch, patch!
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Post by timebean on Mar 28, 2017 16:17:24 GMT
Yay, pics of Sara! I like mine! I can haz Archive link plz? Sorry...I actually don't know how to do the archive (I didn't even know it was live). If I figure it out, I will send you the link!
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Post by Julale on Mar 28, 2017 17:16:38 GMT
I can haz Archive link plz? Sorry...I actually don't know how to do the archive (I didn't even know it was live). If I figure it out, I will send you the link! dumb question...what outfit is this?
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Post by timebean on Mar 28, 2017 17:46:56 GMT
Sorry...I actually don't know how to do the archive (I didn't even know it was live). If I figure it out, I will send you the link! dumb question...what outfit is this? It was in a SAM memory. So can't wear it in game!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 17:55:56 GMT
Sorry OP, but she looks like she isn't old enough to vote.
Ryder is supposed to be young, but not that young. There are much better Ryders.
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Post by sky on Mar 28, 2017 18:02:28 GMT
In the meantime, OP, congrats, your Sara Ryder looks like a better depiction than Bioware's. It looks like you've captured her personality, while just professionalizing her design a bit. I'm looking forward to trying her out. Well I respectfully disagree, because I've tried that preset before. And while she looks nice, even with skin tone all the way to the left, she looks like an Indian girl, and nothing like Scott's twin. It's all about preset 9, which someone posted here already, that looks like an older and wiser Sara. Which makes sense because she IS the older twin after all.
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Post by StonerMk2 on Mar 28, 2017 18:14:46 GMT
Looks good, but overall after looking at a LOT of "better" femRyder's over the past couple days i still prefer the default. Yeah shes not drop dead hot or a model running around in space armor, but i still think shes damn good looking and definitely has the "girl next door" look going on. She looks like she has personality, goofy, quirky personality. Definitely the kinda woman id want to hang out with. At first during the trial i hated her default and tried for about 2 hours to get a "good looking" Ryder, finally i gave up with this games terrible CC (seriously even DA:I was better) and just used the default femRyder, shes has grown on me the past 40 or some odd hours ive played so far.
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Post by MattMan031 on Mar 29, 2017 1:55:35 GMT
Here's my female Ryder.
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Post by jli84 on Mar 29, 2017 2:14:11 GMT
My Ryder after reading the OP on her omni-tool:
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Post by Monica21 on Mar 29, 2017 3:57:16 GMT
Z'Mija Ryder Would like To have a word with you I love this Ryder. I really like that hair and was already planning to use it in my next playthrough. Nice job!
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Post by House Targaryen on Mar 29, 2017 5:35:31 GMT
Yes mine is a boring preselect. Didn't feel like tinkering around, I wanted to start the game after buying it.
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Post by chugster on Mar 29, 2017 8:21:15 GMT
Ohh do you have a link for her? I feel like a fat kid in a cake shop
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Post by chugster on Mar 29, 2017 9:14:52 GMT
Cheers for that, although i dont know when ill get a chance to use any of these great faces, between enjoying MP and taking my time in SP (only 20 hours played) Im not sure when I will start my next playthrough...and then will come the hard part...deciding which face to use first...aah...first world problems
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Post by shriex on Mar 29, 2017 16:25:08 GMT
In the meantime, OP, congrats, your Sara Ryder looks like a better depiction than Bioware's. It looks like you've captured her personality, while just professionalizing her design a bit. I'm looking forward to trying her out. Well I respectfully disagree, because I've tried that preset before. And while she looks nice, even with skin tone all the way to the left, she looks like an Indian girl, and nothing like Scott's twin. It's all about preset 9, which someone posted here already, that looks like an older and wiser Sara. Which makes sense because she IS the older twin after all. No, I'm with you. After experimenting with the OP model I ran into the same things. The problem is with the CC, it is simply too limited. For the "iconic" SisRyder I'm sticking with Bioware's model. The issue (for me) isn't the girl-next-door SisRyder design itself; that's what brought me into the game. Its the translation of that design into the in-game render. Hopefully they'll continue to make improvements both to the iconic / non-editable models, and to the CC as a whole.
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Post by jli84 on Mar 29, 2017 17:03:03 GMT
In the meantime, OP, congrats, your Sara Ryder looks like a better depiction than Bioware's. It looks like you've captured her personality, while just professionalizing her design a bit. I'm looking forward to trying her out. Well I respectfully disagree, because I've tried that preset before. And while she looks nice, even with skin tone all the way to the left, she looks like an Indian girl, and nothing like Scott's twin. It's all about preset 9, which someone posted here already, that looks like an older and wiser Sara. Which makes sense because she IS the older twin after all. I do like preset 9. If I'm not mistaken the twins are supposed to be 22. A lot of the Ryders I see look considerably older, but I do think preset 9 can achieve an early twenties look:
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Post by wellsoul2 on Mar 29, 2017 17:28:44 GMT
You don't see alot of choice here and most of these are variations of preset 9.
This kind of reminds me of Skyrim where if you want to be a high elf female your choice is ugly and uglier.
I guess standards of beauty have changed in the future. Or else they picked all the ugly people to go to Andromeda.
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