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Post by RageUnderFire on Apr 3, 2017 17:38:50 GMT
Then older Krogans are always Captain Charisma.
They're too alpha not to have fans.
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Post by Adhin on Apr 3, 2017 17:39:40 GMT
I voted Liam but I still like him more then Kaiden/Jacob. I think my biggest issue with him is almost EVERY interaction with the guy (outside of his loyalty mission) hes not... Hell I dunno how to put it. One of the more irritating aspecs of Cora is the constant bringing up of her training (no one cares) and how your fathers not around or how things didn't turn out like they where supposed to. She doesn't do it in an angry way, and it's not in 'every' conversation, just often enough in the early bits to make me wish I had a shutup option at some point.
Liam like that but ALL THE FUCKING TIME, 24/7 except it's about 'other people'. I don't know if he can think about him self or the situation hes actually in. I'm not convinced he's capable of that. Every fucking conversation is about his time in crisis response and how thats taught him a thing and why hes applying that to something I don't give a flying fuck about.
That said none of his lines remind me of some sub-b movie softcore porn so he's already better off then Jacob. And in all the other stuff hes funny or entertaining. It's just the cutscene conversations outside of other stuff that... goddamn, just shut up about other people for awhile Liam.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Apr 3, 2017 17:39:52 GMT
I found PeeWee annoying with her nerdy voice and eye makeup.
Liam was an okay character. Decent but far from great
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Post by RageUnderFire on Apr 3, 2017 17:42:11 GMT
Jaal is a flop as a character if you consider all his pre-game release hype.
Female gamers were jerking him off left right.
Whenever we get one of these polls he underperforms.
He looks like a squid and doesn't brood as well as dark eyes Thane.
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Post by Fly In The Lotion on Apr 3, 2017 17:47:47 GMT
Jacob Liam.
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Post by hiffwe on Apr 3, 2017 17:52:27 GMT
Liam. He has two states of being: happy go-lucky I'm sure everything will work out fine, and angry why don't my plans ever work I'm sure it isn't because I don't actually plan things should just work out because I'm a good guy.
Goddamn what an annoying combination. It's like when you had that friend in college who never studied and then cried about his bad marks, then in a few days he reverts back to "lol I don't need to study relax it'll be fine" and the cycle continues.
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Post by Nyx on Apr 3, 2017 18:00:58 GMT
I don't dislike any of the squad mates. In fact, I really, really enjoy this cast of squad mates even more than ME1's and definitely more than ME3's. Nothing beats my beloved ME2 squad mates though.
If I had to rank them from favorite to least favorite though, it would go like this:
1. Jaal 2. Cora 3. Vetra 4. Liam 5. Peebee 6. Drack
I don't hate Drack. Krogan are just not my favorite race, and he seems like every other krogan we've ever had as a squad mate or even just met in general. There's not much variation to krogan unfortunately. I like Kesh a lot better than Drack. I wish she was our squad mate.
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Post by rasande on Apr 3, 2017 18:02:19 GMT
Cora. I find her super dull and a bit annoying, mostly because of the first super awkward conversations you have with her on the Hyperion and how she doesn't shut up about having been a Asari Huntress for the first couple of conversations. I also don't like how she latches on to superiors, i mean jeez Cora you're a grown woman, grow the fuck up.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 3, 2017 18:04:03 GMT
I will admit during the loyalty mission for Cora. I was getting annoyed at her mentioning the stupid teachings of that asari to the other asari. I did want to say shut up for that.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 3, 2017 18:09:38 GMT
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Post by toomanyclouds on Apr 3, 2017 18:15:32 GMT
I actually think I pretty much at least tolerated everyone by the end. Cora was annoying with her asari stuff, but it was obviously meant to set up her loyalty mission where she learned that There Are No Heroes and so on. I just thought her writing was the shoddiest. I have a feeling they were thinking of a DA mage rather than an ME biotic, because she's at least 5 to 10 years younger than Kaidan and doesn't even seem to have the potentially dangerous L2 implant, yet she was soooo discriminated against for being sooooo great. Maybe she could channel some of that immense power that the whole world was afraid of into her suicidal charges in in-game combat. Also, the fact that you have to comfort and reassure her after your father dies is just... okay, I understand the problem she has, no doubt, but who is so tone-deaf and insensitive they whine to the dead man's child about how they lost so much because their father died? Sure, Cora, you are the person who is most affected here, don't let anyone tell you different.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Apr 3, 2017 18:18:37 GMT
Nobody stands out I try to use them all at some point.
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Post by _Wolf Rider_ on Apr 3, 2017 18:25:06 GMT
Liam just because he can get annoying at times.. dude would you just shut up already.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 18:25:44 GMT
should've added nobody because squadmates are the number 1 thing that made me like the game
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Post by AnDromedary on Apr 3, 2017 18:28:22 GMT
I voted Liam but I still like him more then Kaiden/Jacob. I think my biggest issue with him is almost EVERY interaction with the guy (outside of his loyalty mission) hes not... Hell I dunno how to put it. One of the more irritating aspecs of Cora is the constant bringing up of her training (no one cares) and how your fathers not around or how things didn't turn out like they where supposed to. She doesn't do it in an angry way, and it's not in 'every' conversation, just often enough in the early bits to make me wish I had a shutup option at some point. Liam like that but ALL THE FUCKING TIME, 24/7 except it's about 'other people'. I don't know if he can think about him self or the situation hes actually in. I'm not convinced he's capable of that. Every fucking conversation is about his time in crisis response and how thats taught him a thing and why hes applying that to something I don't give a flying fuck about. That said none of his lines remind me of some sub-b movie softcore porn so he's already better off then Jacob. And in all the other stuff hes funny or entertaining. It's just the cutscene conversations outside of other stuff that... goddamn, just shut up about other people for awhile Liam. This is actually a problem I have with basically all the squad mates. They all seem to be about ONE issue and they shove it down your throat EVERY SINGLE TIME! So Liam has a story about "one time, in summer camp crisis response..." Cora is the non0risk-taker who has more daddy issues with Ryder's father then Ryder him/herself Vetra is the "older sister"(tm) to every-f*ing-one Peebee is soooo independent and unattached Jaal is that alien of that race that is so open with their feelings, he cannot tell you enough how open he is with his feelings Drack still seems to be the most diverse of them because at least his shtick is how he is the old experienced guy who's seen it all already (and that offers some diversity in his stories at least). These characters don't show their personalities, they tell you about their personalities, they are like self-analyzing psychologists who can now finally explain to Ryder who they really are. That's not good character writing, it clumsy and feels unnatural. The MET characters mostly did not have this problem. You could have conversations with them about different topics and they had more then one personality trait and background to draw from (e.g. Ash in ME1 talks about her family a lot but you also have conversation about her religious beliefs ro how she fells about aliens. It's all connected of course but it's not always the same song all over again. Or look at Wrex, at the beginning, you think he's just that rough krogan merc. It's only over time that you realize there is more to him, that he was a leader among his people who wanted to fight the consequences of the genophage but got pushed out and betrayed by his over-conservative father. He also doesn't outright tell you his persnality traits like the ME:A characters do. he never has a line like "I am rough and tough on the outside because I am Krogan but I am actually a thoughtful guy who like to think problems through before acting decisively. I care deeply about my people, just don't like to show it outright because you know, rough on the outside and all but that's who I am and maybe there is some wisdom in what I propose for the krogan." You figure that out while talking to him about stuff that actually concerns you, like when he worked with Saren or when you can actually reason with him about the genophage on Virmire. It's show don't tell. Instead, ME:A gives us Liam's: "I like to feel it, do it and I have to make Andromeda work or this would have been a mistake and I would just feel bad...", Vetras "I know I can be overprotective but it is because I had to care for my sister since we were little, so now I am trying to do it for everyone, yadda yadda" ot Jaal's "We angara like to show our feelings..." (he says that in his first conversation with you by the way, how does he even know that, compared to a species he has no experience with, angara are actually more openly emotional? ahhh, anyway). This is all tell, not show where it should be the age old rule show, don't tell.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 3, 2017 18:28:23 GMT
Liam sucks the last bit of tension completely out of the story by having an overly funny loyalty mission and nothing but "let's hang out and celebrate" crap that completely undermines any sense of weight there could've been. Only some squadmates seem to address the reality of the situation.
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Post by shechinah on Apr 3, 2017 18:29:09 GMT
I actually has to say Cora but not because I hate her. It's because she's the one I'm least interested in due to how much of dialogue feels like a rehash of previous conversations with her. She has some good moments of character and interesting bits in her chat but it dosen't feel like the topic of conversation with her changes or progresses like it does with other characters. Unlike Vivienne, it dosen't feel like it is intentional like you're suppose to learn about her primarily from her banter with other characters and her culture. That's just my opinion, though.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 3, 2017 18:29:36 GMT
should've added nobody because squadmates are the number 1 thing that made me like the game Well, I did ask for least favorite, not most hated. You can vote for the one you liked least even if you liked them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 18:32:04 GMT
should've added nobody because squadmates are the number 1 thing that made me like the game Well, I did ask for least favorite, not most hated. You can vote for the one you liked least even if you liked them. LIAM IT IS
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Post by rasande on Apr 3, 2017 18:32:46 GMT
I actually think I pretty much at least tolerated everyone by the end. Cora was annoying with her asari stuff, but it was obviously meant to set up her loyalty mission where she learned that There Are No Heroes and so on. I just thought her writing was the shoddiest. I have a feeling they were thinking of a DA mage rather than an ME biotic, because she's at least 5 to 10 years younger than Kaidan and doesn't even seem to have the potentially dangerous L2 implant, yet she was soooo discriminated against for being sooooo great. Maybe she could channel some of that immense power that the whole world was afraid of into her suicidal charges in in-game combat. Also, the fact that you have to comfort and reassure her after your father dies is just... okay, I understand the problem she has, no doubt, but who is so tone-deaf and insensitive they whine to the dead man's child about how they lost so much because their father died? Sure, Cora, you are the person who is most affected here, don't let anyone tell you different.
Oh my god, i had completely forgotten about the spoiler part! That pissed me of so much! Who fucking does that?! I have never wanted a renegade option more in my life where you just tear into her, but no, you just bend over backwards, seriously... the writing in this game sometimes...
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Post by Zemgus on Apr 3, 2017 18:37:32 GMT
Nice to see Liam is #1.
It's funny 'cause before the game he was the companion I was most excited to meet. But he is just everything I hoped he wouldn't be: boring, generic, naive, annoying 'nice guy.' Meh. Jacob is better (but Vega is still the worst). Liam is an idealist who does things without thinking about consequences, just playing the hero (like Conrad Verner kind of), and when things go wrong he blames the universe for being 'unfair.' lol. I so wish rivalry was a thing in MEA.
His personal quest and the following fallout was good (though it could have been taken further) and there's been some other nice moments like that, but I don't just care about him really. He doesn't even annoy me, he just... is. Weak character. He sort of reminds me of Corso Riggs. Except Corso had a lot more personality and was actually cool. Perhaps it also has to do with MEA's overall disappointing dialogue and writing. Most of the companions don't most often seem to care about what Ryder does and (unlike SWTOR) there aren't that many different choices or approaches to situations, so that's probably why...
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Post by cotheer on Apr 3, 2017 18:42:15 GMT
Cora. I just can't take any more of her: "Yeah, y'know i was an asari commando (or w/e) once, until I...your father chose you" whining. That hoe has some serious daddy issues.
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 3, 2017 18:43:28 GMT
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So far, Jaal and Liam are the ones I leave behind, unless I have to.
On banter: Cora and Drack are funny. Cora and Vetra never seem to run out of things to say about their old haunts in the MW.
PeeBee is squishy.... had to revive her... I really hesitate to take her with me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 18:43:46 GMT
These characters don't show their personalities, they tell you about their personalities, they are like self-analyzing psychologists who can now finally explain to Ryder who they really are. That's not good character writing, it clumsy and feels unnatural. The MET characters mostly did not have this problem. You could have conversations with them about different topics and they had more then one personality trait and background to draw from (e.g. Ash in ME1 talks about her family a lot but you also have conversation about her religious beliefs ro how she fells about aliens. It's all connected of course but it's not always the same song all over again. That is one of the main issues with the game. We rarely get to explore these characters, because they just info dump us straight away on how they are feeling and what their issues are. When the game actually has the option to explore these things it really opens up and feels like it should. That however is only 25% of the time, and its not enough to get invested enough and actually care for them. Which was also one of the main issues many reviews had with the game. I think Drack is the only that there is the most too, and if you talk to him and stay loyal to him, the game actually rewards you for it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 18:47:14 GMT
Nice to see Liam is #1. It's funny 'cause before the game he was the companion I was most excited to meet. But he is just everything I hoped he wouldn't be: boring, generic, naive, annoying 'nice guy.' Meh. Jacob is better (but Vega is still the worst). Liam is an idealist who does things without thinking about consequences, just playing the hero (like Conrad Verner kind of), and when things go wrong he blames the universe for being 'unfair.' lol. I so wish rivalry was a thing in MEA. His personal quest and the following fallout was good (though it could have been taken further) and there's been some other nice moments like that, but I don't just care about him really. He doesn't even annoy me, he just... is. Weak character. He sort of reminds me of Corso Riggs. Except Corso had a lot more personality and was actually cool. Perhaps it also has to do with MEA's overall disappointing dialogue and writing. Most of the companions don't most often seem to care about what Ryder does and (unlike SWTOR) there aren't that many different choices or approaches to situations, so that's probably why... This is the first time I saw someone use these 3 words together, in that order
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