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Post by midnight tea on Apr 3, 2017 20:14:43 GMT
Poe's Law - in other words I can't tell if you're joking or not. And I do hope that you're joking. Because judging the quality of writing based on a tiny, innocuous excerpt strikes me as a joke. There's not much of a sample to judge writing overall, not to mention that there's nothing wrong with that tiny excerpt when it's put in context of the scene or characterization.
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Post by Teddie Sage on Apr 3, 2017 20:15:46 GMT
Pretty sure Ashe wasn't joking with this review. She gets pretty serious when giving an opinion, but I think she is very tactful.
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 3, 2017 20:18:07 GMT
Pretty sure Ashe wasn't joking with this review. She gets pretty serious when giving an opinion, but I think she is very tactful. I'm not talking about Ashe, I was referring to a comment made under the review.
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Post by Teddie Sage on Apr 3, 2017 20:19:07 GMT
Pretty sure Ashe wasn't joking with this review. She gets pretty serious when giving an opinion, but I think she is very tactful. I'm not talking about Ashe, I was referring to a comment made under the review. Oh, I see. Sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 20:20:21 GMT
Ashe is a member here too, so let's be respectful.
As for her review, that's Ashe. This is who she is and how she talks. Get to know her on her Twitch to understand her better, but in the end she bows to no one and tells it like it is when it comes to flaws in BW games.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 3, 2017 20:22:14 GMT
I personally thought DA2 was incredible, even though I hated the repeated dungeons. Just my opinion. I like DA2 as well Sarcastic femHawke is great
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Post by AnDromedary on Apr 3, 2017 20:25:34 GMT
Hm, didn't watch the vid but the Pro/Con list looks like I have very different taste and priorities than this person.
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Post by I'd rather be Mordin Solus on Apr 3, 2017 20:25:36 GMT
Poe's Law - in other words I can't tell if you're joking or not. And I do hope that you're joking. Because judging the quality of writing based on a tiny, innocuous excerpt strikes me as a joke. There's not much of a sample to judge writing overall, not to mention that there's nothing wrong with that tiny excerpt when it's put in context of the scene or characterization. That kind of "Hi Guys!" joke is lazy to begin with. Anywhere. But a Krogan acting like a sitcom teen is even worse. Krogan should be more like Mike from Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul. Tough and stoic.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 20:27:15 GMT
Poe's Law - in other words I can't tell if you're joking or not. And I do hope that you're joking. Because judging the quality of writing based on a tiny, innocuous excerpt strikes me as a joke. There's not much of a sample to judge writing overall, not to mention that there's nothing wrong with that tiny excerpt when it's put in context of the scene or characterization. That kind of "Hi Guys!" joke is lazy to begin with. Anywhere. But a Krogan acting like a sitcom teen is even worse. Krogan should be more like Mike from Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul. Tough and stoic. Oh that? That's how Ashe always greets people. Vorn just happened to have her line haha
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Post by dis_Op2399 on Apr 3, 2017 20:33:38 GMT
I love Ashe, been looking forward to this review
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 3, 2017 20:35:28 GMT
Perhaps it's just her particular style or delivery, but I didn't find Ashe's review particularly helpful or having depth. It came across more as a jumbling of various generalizations and feelings about the game, rather than an actual critical breakdown. I suppose her depiction of the game being a "hot mess" is about as close as she comes to offering any definitive opinion on the product.
I can't say I agree, as I believe the game is horribly underrated due to bad press, a lack of polish, and wonky facial animations. However, everybody is entitled to their opinion. Personally, I believe MEA has far more pros than cons for all the systems and features it added to the Mass Effect experience. I will agree with her that the Critical Path does get better the further you get into the game, especially at the end. However, I never felt most of the story content was ever monotonous or tedious. Only the fetch quests were admittedly redundant.
As far as the galaxy map, everyone seems to overlook it's a load screen. You can't skip any galaxy travel scenes because the game is loading in the background. This was BioWare's way of avoiding having a loading bar everywhere, which is something they made a big deal about.
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Post by Dirk on Apr 3, 2017 20:38:43 GMT
I like how the reviewer spends enough time in the game to give criticism beyond surface. I am glad that she mentioned this flaw: which is a very big one for me.
Overall this is a fair review. I agree about 75% of what she has said.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 3, 2017 20:43:28 GMT
Poe's Law - in other words I can't tell if you're joking or not. And I do hope that you're joking. Because judging the quality of writing based on a tiny, innocuous excerpt strikes me as a joke. There's not much of a sample to judge writing overall, not to mention that there's nothing wrong with that tiny excerpt when it's put in context of the scene or characterization. That kind of "Hi Guys!" joke is lazy to begin with. Anywhere. But a Krogan acting like a sitcom teen is even worse. Krogan should be more like Mike from Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul. Tough and stoic. Why should krogan all be the same? And what's actually wrong with "hi,guys"? It's normal conversational English. I've said it myself on occasion.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 3, 2017 20:48:48 GMT
Shoulda said "hey guys" instead. What are you, 13?
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 3, 2017 20:53:41 GMT
Poe's Law - in other words I can't tell if you're joking or not. And I do hope that you're joking. Because judging the quality of writing based on a tiny, innocuous excerpt strikes me as a joke. There's not much of a sample to judge writing overall, not to mention that there's nothing wrong with that tiny excerpt when it's put in context of the scene or characterization. That kind of "Hi Guys!" joke is lazy to begin with. Anywhere. ...That's like saying that using color red is lazy. Preposterous, that's all I can say. You're talking from an entirely subjective perspective. I mean, you literally say that you imagine that krogans should all be tough and stoic... all that while the game creators quite demonstrably disagree with you. After all, the game intentionally points out that there's more to Krogans than "tough and stoic" (by presenting us a clumsy and romantic, but otherwise brilliant young krogan, among others which we can find on Elaaden) - especially to its younger generation. I mean heck, in many respects that's the whole arc for Drack, who himself feels expendable - a relic of time he himself thinks is a closed chapter for krogans, for valid reasons. Overall, I get why people may not like the new direction of the series, that consciously accentuates hope over despair and making room for new generation that can act a bit goofy and directionless at times. We can have a discussion about that whether someone likes certain characterization or direction for the chapter(s). ...But dismissing one of its elements 'because I think krogans shouldn't be that way' and therefore lazy? Doesn't strike me as compelling argument.
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Post by warbaby2 on Apr 3, 2017 20:56:32 GMT
Disappointing review, Ashe talks like a politician so can not trust what she says. Ashe should make another review and tell us what her true feelings are. She was at the "YouTube Influencers" preview event EA held, so she has to be diplomatic... then again - while I always kinda liked her - she is a big BW apologist/fangirl, so much of what she said not only be coming from a place of "I want to stay on EAs good side".
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Post by hathur on Apr 3, 2017 21:04:18 GMT
I personally thought DA2 was incredible, even though I hated the repeated dungeons. Just my opinion. I like DA2 as well Sarcastic femHawke is great She is one of my favourite protagonists ever.. and it is shockingly contrasted against the other hawke personalities... I started as the diplomatic hawke for some 12+ hours and just could not stand her one bit - was so boring and making me gnash my teeth in frustration... so i heard sarcastic hawke was a lot better, started over from scratch and sure enough it was like a whole new story - a charming loveable scamp who you'd want as a best friend. Still to do this day stands as one of my favourite characters to play as in any game. I'm thankful for the emotional / casual dialogue options for Ryder in this game as well since it captures some of the charm as well that sarcastic Hawke had.. perhaps not as well, but it is a welcome change of pace from the solemn, formal, tough Shepard.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 21:05:26 GMT
I love how when someone reviews the game maturely, everyone gets stupid about it and complains about pointless things like the intro haha but it proves a point I've been making and that makes me happy.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 3, 2017 21:06:22 GMT
Disappointing review, Ashe talks like a politician so can not trust what she says. Ashe should make another review and tell us what her true feelings are. She was at the "YouTube Influencers" preview event EA held, so she has to be diplomatic... then again - while I always kinda liked her - she is a big BW apologist/fangirl, so much of what she said not only be coming from a place of "I want to stay on EAs good side". I found it to be more honest than most of the stuff that's been posted on the threads
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 21:09:51 GMT
She was at the "YouTube Influencers" preview event EA held, so she has to be diplomatic... then again - while I always kinda liked her - she is a big BW apologist/fangirl, so much of what she said not only be coming from a place of "I want to stay on EAs good side". I found it to be more honest than most of the stuff that's been posted on the threads She is. The crap complained about here is pointless (face animations and romances) and what she did complain about was legit stuff that can be improved upon at a later date.
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 3, 2017 21:09:55 GMT
If only all the positive reviews weren't by small youtubers who received free game codes... Huh, I didn't know TotalBiscuit is considered a small youtuber. I also wasn't aware that all the reviews in game review press or YT were apparently all negative.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 21:13:04 GMT
If only all the positive reviews weren't by small youtubers who received free game codes... Huh, I didn't know TotalBiscuit is considered a small youtuber. I also wasn't aware that all the reviews in game review press or YT were apparently all negative. They aren't, but the biggest mouths get the most attention. And yep I'm in a venting mode over the garbage I have been reading that sounds like it was reviewed to attract little kids who like toilet jokes. Sheep + Flock is what most reviewers are these days.
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Post by panzerwzh on Apr 3, 2017 21:56:54 GMT
Disappointing review, Ashe talks like a politician so can not trust what she says. Ashe should make another review and tell us what her true feelings are. Yup, she lacks the ability to throughly analyze main issues while articling her idea.
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Post by Teddie Sage on Apr 3, 2017 21:59:39 GMT
So because she doesn't prioritize the same flaws as you both do, it's a terrible review...? riiiiiight.
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