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Post by VanSinn on Apr 6, 2017 14:30:05 GMT
To be perfectly honest, the number of fairly large changes in this patch tells me a couple of things. I could be wrong, we'll never know for sure, but I honestly believe Bioware wanted a little more time to finish polishing the game, but EA forced the release to make the fiscal year cutoff.
This amount of work on all of these issues would take longer than 2 weeks to fix. Thus, Bioware MUST have been working on many of these things well before release, knowing that the state of the release version wasn't fully up to snuff. If Bioware was working on facial animations, eyes and other character model changes, animation changes, and so on before release, that means they weren't happy with what was released.
I'm honestly not trying to be a Bioware fanboy, and I've been fairly harshly critical of various issues with ME2 and ME3 in the past, but this level of patching only 2 weeks after release is a fairly large statement in and of itself. Now, we'll see how well these issues are "fixed" after the patch, but it has the feel of a silent "We're sorry the game was released in such a state, EA made us release it before we were ready, and this is the only way we can really apologize to the fans so we're not seen as criticizing our corporate overlords."
Like I said, I could very well be wrong, and if so, I'm more than willing to admit to such. That's just the feeling I get after seeing how much they're changing in such a short time after release.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 6, 2017 14:30:41 GMT
I think some like Authur Gies are overreacting but that said I think it's absolutely true that this game being released and played now like a buggy mess and then gets fixed up later when BioWare probably full well knew how shoddy the release code was is unacceptable.
I don't exactly know what it means when I say "unacceptable" considering I bought and played it already. Heh, I guess they played me (but honestly I like playing Sonic 06 to some extent!).
The thing is probbaly that I don't care about technical jank nearly as much as I care about the context, the story and characters and to me those problems far overshadow the technical jank but the jank does drag this game down from being as enjoyable as it should be.
The bigger question for me is how many BioWare ppl will end up leaving due to sheer pressure or mental health related stuff after getting dogpiled so hard during this project and now? So many left even before the curtains were drawn and in a lot of the pre-release press I find some of the people to look significantly less confident and some gained weight (sorry, but I had to say it). If you look at Casey from the start of ME3 to right before he left the company you see an increasingly broken man. I just think BioWare has become inherently toxic due to bad rep, angry fans and disappointing underperformance and they're no longer the king of the types of games they make.
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Post by Kelwing on Apr 6, 2017 14:43:49 GMT
Only thing I hope is fixed. Is the goofy cursor hanging mid screen during cut scenes or decides to pick a dialogue choice before you can read them.
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Post by unwanted on Apr 6, 2017 15:01:17 GMT
Updating now.
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Post by beantony on Apr 6, 2017 15:02:30 GMT
me too, 1.1 GB patch.. but 1.94 GB was prepared in 'preparing...'
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Post by Rico01 on Apr 6, 2017 15:02:59 GMT
1.11GB update. Hmmm... don't expect miracles people.
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Post by R1Outcast on Apr 6, 2017 15:03:32 GMT
...These devs are also people, and likely appreciate any and all of the positive vibes quite a bit. They have a needlessly taxing job, in terms of undue negative feedback from the mob, in this age of Internet asshats and social media. I totally agree. The mob mentality and bandwagoning is cancerous. It's like people can't think for themselves. They see/hear a popular opinion, then they try to validate the opinion in any and every way they can. Don't get me wrong...some of the complaints were valid ( albeit blown way out of proportion) however; many complaints about the game just seemed to be grasping at straws to find something new that no one else had complained about yet. I guess they do it so they feel like they're part of the edgy "in" crowd. It's pretty pathetic imo though.
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Post by spearhead on Apr 6, 2017 15:03:38 GMT
Pretty small update.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 15:04:13 GMT
I got nothing, what are you all on?
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 6, 2017 15:04:42 GMT
1.11GB update. Hmmm... don't expect miracles people. So how big should it be to do what it's supposed to do and why?
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Post by unwanted on Apr 6, 2017 15:05:23 GMT
I hope I can now make myself a Shep.
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Post by R1Outcast on Apr 6, 2017 15:05:30 GMT
I got nothing, what are you all on? If you're on PC you may need to right-click and select update.
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Post by Rico01 on Apr 6, 2017 15:06:10 GMT
1.11GB update. Hmmm... don't expect miracles people. So how big should it be to do what it's supposed to do and why? No idea, but don't expect it to be the new standard in graphics Just saying
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 15:06:17 GMT
I'm on PS4 and just clicked check for updates and got nothing.
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Post by manofsteel on Apr 6, 2017 15:07:31 GMT
I'm on PS4 and just clicked check for updates and got nothing. Looks like it's only up on PC at the moment.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Apr 6, 2017 15:07:48 GMT
So how big should it be to do what it's supposed to do and why? No idea, but don't expect it to be the new standard in graphics Just saying Tell us more game developer.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 15:08:35 GMT
I'm on PS4 and just clicked check for updates and got nothing. Looks like it's only up on PC at the moment. Boo, oh well.
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Post by kino on Apr 6, 2017 15:08:40 GMT
Well, that was punctual. Just checked update on Origin and it started.
I'm one of those lucky one's who didn't have a problem with the game, really, so it's nothing but gravy for me.
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Post by mattvm on Apr 6, 2017 15:08:53 GMT
1.11GB update. Hmmm... don't expect miracles people. So how big should it be to do what it's supposed to do and why? Pretty sure a lot of people were expecting a ~ 45gb "patch". Because "broken game" that needs a "miracle". Patch size is fine. Downloading for PC.
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Post by Nightfury on Apr 6, 2017 15:11:57 GMT
Xbox Update is up, 2.2gb.
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Post by manofsteel on Apr 6, 2017 15:17:31 GMT
Sara's eyes, post-patch. One of the patch notes talked about improving human and asari eyes, so for anyone curious:
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Post by robwolf666 on Apr 6, 2017 15:17:36 GMT
Xbox Update is up, 2.2gb. Yeah, I just started to download it and came here to say.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 15:17:44 GMT
PS4 is also live.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 15:18:16 GMT
Sara's eyes, post-patch. One of the patch notes talked about improving human and asari eyes, so for anyone curious: That looks better.
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Post by Mresa on Apr 6, 2017 15:20:02 GMT
Anyone else having issues on PC, the game won't start for me.
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