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Post by straykat on Aug 31, 2016 23:32:02 GMT
in me3 the characters hint at the fact they sent a fleet out into the unknown in case the reapers cant be beaten so they can ensure some remnants of each galactic civilisation survives, so they were clearly queuing up for a new franchise, and then changed their minds and then changed them back again, and when ME:A was officially announced as happening it was already a forgone conclusion it was well underway No characters ever said this. At best, the Asari councilor said they need to make preparations, since her homeworld finally got ravaged. That's vague. And Hudson himself specifically said there'd be no games after 3. He says it at the end of "Last Hours of Mass Effect". But then the ending debacle happened and I think EA forced more out of it. Before Hudson left himself.
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Post by kevpool184 on Aug 31, 2016 23:46:02 GMT
If they aren't going to do a remaster, then I hope they finally get to making the rest of the Shepard Trilogy backwards compatible. oh god, please no! ME1 is available in the xbox live store for the xbox one, but it's framerate drops are party even heavier than in the original version. i looked up some comparison vids on youtube and it's close to unplayable and definitely not worth the money. back to topic, IMO, that's pretty bullshit. no one can tell me and/or convince me, they don't got the resources for a remaster, be it financial or human resources. Heck, even M$ and their tiny 343i managed to make remaster and fit it in a freakin collection. yeah well, alright, it was a broken mess when it came out, but at least they've tried. and we're talking about EA, except for DA, ME and SW they're releasing every year the (almost) same BS with their sport themed games. they could've make a proper remaster, if they would want to. this is a serious bumper for me, personally. IDC what others think, i know for myself i'd love the possibility of getting my favourite game trilogy on my XB1, since i sold my 360, as pointed out in another thread. i had hoped i could get myself up in a ME-mood while replaying it before ME:a, well, this won't be the case anymore. lastly, if they don't get some real big guns out on N7-Day, i might reconsider buying ME:A. the closing of the forum, close to none intel about ME:A, now this - this all is getting fishy in my eyes.
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Post by linksocarina on Aug 31, 2016 23:46:40 GMT
I am ok with this reasoning, at least. Does say a lot regarding how EA is treating BioWare if they are focused on the future right now, and not the past.
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Post by bloodmagereaver on Sept 1, 2016 2:51:10 GMT
Well...
This makes sense to me, my idea of a remaster was more like a remake and in my opinion it would be far cheaper to first develop Mass Effect Andromeda then recycle as many textures and models as possible in the remaking of the original trilogy,
It's just that ME1 is so different than ME2 and ME3 that it would be actually easier to recreate it from scratch than moving the code to a new engine.
I guess that a Mass Effect Trilogy remake wouldn't be far fetched to come on 2019 since they will likely focus on DA4 for release on 2018.
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Post by nanotm on Sept 1, 2016 7:12:25 GMT
If they aren't going to do a remaster, then I hope they finally get to making the rest of the Shepard Trilogy backwards compatible. oh god, please no! ME1 is available in the xbox live store for the xbox one, but it's framerate drops are party even heavier than in the original version. i looked up some comparison vids on youtube and it's close to unplayable and definitely not worth the money. back to topic, IMO, that's pretty bullshit. no one can tell me and/or convince me, they don't got the resources for a remaster, be it financial or human resources. Heck, even M$ and their tiny 343i managed to make remaster and fit it in a freakin collection. yeah well, alright, it was a broken mess when it came out, but at least they've tried. and we're talking about EA, except for DA, ME and SW they're releasing every year the (almost) same BS with their sport themed games. they could've make a proper remaster, if they would want to. this is a serious bumper for me, personally. IDC what others think, i know for myself i'd love the possibility of getting my favourite game trilogy on my XB1, since i sold my 360, as pointed out in another thread. i had hoped i could get myself up in a ME-mood while replaying it before ME:a, well, this won't be the case anymore. lastly, if they don't get some real big guns out on N7-Day, i might reconsider buying ME:A. the closing of the forum, close to none intel about ME:A, now this - this all is getting fishy in my eyes. it comes up in conversations midway through (well that probably depends on who you saved and what order you play in) wrex says it at one point as do a couple of others, even one of the admirals mentions the exploratory mission and shepard questions if its not too late to join them.... that's not to say everyone got those conversations because depening on the import saves they might not have been dispatched .....
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Post by Gileadan on Sept 1, 2016 7:26:42 GMT
We truly live in a time of bullshit.
BioWare closes their forum because they care so much about interaction with their fans. EA does not do remasters because they'd rather not make easy money.
*snort* Right.
But seriously, I don't get how people expected this to actually happen, regardless of what any EA marketing yo-yo might have said at some point. EA has never been in the remastering business before, and who would do the remaster for ME anyway? BioWare Montreal is busy with MEA, BioWare Austin does SWTOR, and BioWare Edmonton does... eh, secret IP something something I suppose. Remastering is for the most part an engineering job, something BioWare has never been really good with, so EA might have to outsource it, and that would mean extra costs. I would have been surprised if the remaster had turned out to be a thing.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Sept 1, 2016 8:36:34 GMT
We truly live in a time of bullshit. BioWare closes their forum because they care so much about interaction with their fans. EA does not do remasters because they'd rather not make easy money. *snort* Right. But seriously, I don't get how people expected this to actually happen, regardless of what any EA marketing yo-yo might have said at some point. EA has never been in the remastering business before, and who would do the remaster for ME anyway? BioWare Montreal is busy with MEA, BioWare Austin does SWTOR, and BioWare Edmonton does... eh, secret IP something something I suppose. Remastering is for the most part an engineering job, something BioWare has never been really good with, so EA might have to outsource it, and that would mean extra costs. I would have been surprised if the remaster had turned out to be a thing. Heres the thing. Bioware in 2015 via Neogaf "would you like a remaster?" EA 2015 via interview "Let it go." EA 2016 via interview "Want a remaster?" Bioware 2016 via deleted tweet "Celebrate the Mass Effect remaster with a $69.95 N7 hoody." EA: NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO AND STOP. ASKING....
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Post by Gileadan on Sept 1, 2016 8:57:30 GMT
Heres the thing. Bioware in 2015 via Neogaf "would you like a remaster?" EA 2015 via interview "Let it go." EA 2016 via interview "Want a remaster?" Bioware 2016 via deleted tweet "Celebrate the Mass Effect remaster with a $69.95 N7 hoody." EA: NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO AND STOP. ASKING.... That looks like a mess in marketing communication to me. I get why people grabbed these straws and hoped for a remaster to happen, but it was still a rather unrealistic expectation. It had practically no precedent and BioWare seems to have a hard enough time to deliver their regular projects in time without having a remaster to handle on the side.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 9:08:58 GMT
Well... This makes sense to me, my idea of a remaster was more like a remake and in my opinion it would be far cheaper to first develop Mass Effect Andromeda then recycle as many textures and models as possible in the remaking of the original trilogy,It's just that ME1 is so different than ME2 and ME3 that it would be actually easier to recreate it from scratch than moving the code to a new engine. I think this makes perfectly sense. ME:Andromeda is going to have lots of similarities with ME1 (exploration, larger scope of the game). It might as well re-use all the models and textures from ME:A with slight modifications to re-create ME1 with the new Frostbite engine. I'd love that, I'm not an expert on gaming development but if you can use all the voice files from the old game that would be terrific. If one day they will consider this option it's probably not going to happen anytime soon.
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Post by thepiebaker on Sept 1, 2016 9:44:36 GMT
Ea going the route they have been and not going after the "easy money" remake is like an oxymoron right?
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Post by Hoge on Sept 1, 2016 11:25:48 GMT
I'm fine with them not remastering the trilogy, and focusing on their projects at hand. I am not fine with them talking about their being a high possibility of them remastering the trilogy and then back pedaling.
IMO, if you aren't going to remaster the trilogy, at least make ME 2 and 3 backwards compatible. It's such a freaking tease to replay the first one and NOT BE ABLE TO CONTINUE ON... I WANT TO PLAY THE TRILOGY AGAIN DAMN IT!
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Post by themikefest on Sept 1, 2016 11:43:35 GMT
No characters ever said this. At best, the Asari councilor said they need to make preparations, since her homeworld finally got ravaged. That's vague. And Hudson himself specifically said there'd be no games after 3. He says it at the end of "Last Hours of Mass Effect". But then the ending debacle happened and I think EA forced more out of it. Before Hudson left himself. it comes up in conversations midway through (well that probably depends on who you saved and what order you play in) wrex says it at one point as do a couple of others, even one of the admirals mentions the exploratory mission and shepard questions if its not too late to join them.... that's not to say everyone got those conversations because depening on the import saves they might not have been dispatched ..... Did you mean to quote the above post and not the one you quoted? Do have a link to the characters you mentioned that say what you posted? I don't recall hearing Shepard say what you posted
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Post by goishen on Sept 1, 2016 11:57:03 GMT
it comes up in conversations midway through (well that probably depends on who you saved and what order you play in) wrex says it at one point as do a couple of others, even one of the admirals mentions the exploratory mission and shepard questions if its not too late to join them.... that's not to say everyone got those conversations because depening on the import saves they might not have been dispatched ..... Did you mean to quote the above post and not the one you quoted? Do have a link to the characters you mentioned that say what you posted? I don't recall hearing Shepard say what you posted I would be interested in this too. I'm not saying that you're lying, just that ME universe has so much stuff (still) that I don't know about.
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Post by llandwynwyn on Sept 1, 2016 13:05:10 GMT
EA should just have kept their mouth shut for a while, then deny a remaster. Why say they are thinking on it just to announce days later that it was never a possibility?
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Post by degs29 on Sept 1, 2016 13:13:32 GMT
Give it 5-10 years, then remaster it. The trilogy doesn't need a remaster yet. Even the first game is still very playable.
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Post by Ieldra on Sept 1, 2016 13:46:53 GMT
We truly live in a time of bullshit. BioWare closes their forum because they care so much about interaction with their fans. EA does not do remasters because they'd rather not make easy money. *snort* Right. It makes me wonder - are there people who actually believe this bullshit? You know, if this works for them, I'm afraid I have to increase my misanthropy level.
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Post by Gileadan on Sept 1, 2016 14:10:34 GMT
It makes me wonder - are there people who actually believe this bullshit? You know, if this works for them, I'm afraid I have to increase my misanthropy level. My misanthropy level is already way up there. I think the bullshit part is mostly meant for the shareholders, who are probably used to that kind of PR hogwash lingo anyway. And if gamers protest that they're being fed a load of bollocks, well... you can always close a forum or two and block people on Facebook and Twitter, right? I wouldn't be surprised if there were people out there who truly believed that, though. Some people put their favorite company on a pedestal and can't imagine them ever doing or speaking any wrong.
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Post by bizantura on Sept 1, 2016 14:22:12 GMT
Remaster it how?
Purist want ME1 with same gameplay and inventory, others want it like ME3.
ME2 for some was a concatenation of compagnion stories and little else, are they going to add more overarching accents? Not likely.
ME3 the problematic of all conundrums, the ending!
There is simply no way to satisfy a broad enough player base without controversy and controversy can make sales go thru the roof or down the drain for ME:A. The safer bet is to wait far more longer years and establish a fanbase around the new ME franchise with more unison in vues.
EA does not turn it's back on money making and will do so at a more appropriate moment in time if remakes by then are still popular.
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Post by Innocent Bystander on Sept 1, 2016 15:02:33 GMT
So EA won't put stuff people want into their games, because it costs money they don't have, and they won't do other stuff people want, that would make money, because they don't need money. Gotta love a good contradiction. To me it seems like EA is just against doing anything people want.
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Post by Monk on Sept 1, 2016 15:25:03 GMT
I was thinking more of an engine update, but okaay…
Regards to "enough money", or whatever he says – didn't feel the article was worth reading – seems to me EA doesn't want to take away from the MEA marketing strategy. This sorta makes sense since, if there was going to be a re-release of the trilogy onto the current generation of consoles, we'd have seen it already, me thinks.
Now, back to waiting for reports on PAX West.
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Post by nanotm on Sept 1, 2016 16:50:33 GMT
No characters ever said this. At best, the Asari councilor said they need to make preparations, since her homeworld finally got ravaged. That's vague. And Hudson himself specifically said there'd be no games after 3. He says it at the end of "Last Hours of Mass Effect". But then the ending debacle happened and I think EA forced more out of it. Before Hudson left himself. it comes up in conversations midway through (well that probably depends on who you saved and what order you play in) wrex says it at one point as do a couple of others, even one of the admirals mentions the exploratory mission and shepard questions if its not too late to join them.... that's not to say everyone got those conversations because depening on the import saves they might not have been dispatched ..... Did you mean to quote the above post and not the one you quoted? Do have a link to the characters you mentioned that say what you posted? I don't recall hearing Shepard say what you posted I don't have a link no, it wasn't something I recorded at the time I was playing through the game, near the start Anderson mentions the special mission and how it hasn't been nearly long enough to give them a chance of success, and when your on tuchunka wrex talks about the arc ships they sent and his not having any faith in them achieving the mission but only if morden dies and succeeds in the cure (and you spilled your guts about the dalatrass, having also saved the salarian major in me1) I only had it happen on 1 play though, which I had saved Ashley and wrex in me1 saved everyone in me2 and not punched any of the reporters ever.... it might be even more involved in the choices field perhaps you had to have done everything in every dlc and side mission in the paragon side of things... I also don't know if it was the ng+ play though or the primary playthough after the import, but I do remember the in game conversations and there being a thread that the mods deleted on the forum about it (so long ago though) where people were asking outright if there was going to be a follow up game set in a new galaxy or not....
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Post by LFS on Sept 1, 2016 17:01:15 GMT
Heres the thing. Bioware in 2015 via Neogaf "would you like a remaster?" EA 2015 via interview "Let it go." EA 2016 via interview "Want a remaster?" Bioware 2016 via deleted tweet "Celebrate the Mass Effect remaster with a $69.95 N7 hoody."
EA: NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO.NO AND STOP. ASKING.... Well, that deleted tweet was from Sanshee, who were seemingly trying to make a buck off the same knee-jerk buzz that got everyone else talking. Bioware had nothing to do with it. At any rate, to me this whole thing seemed from the start like a classic case of turning one thing into something it wasn't. Sonderlund was asked--and answered--a general question that happened to be couched with an example; "Will EA consider remastering games, such as Mass Effect?" is not the same as "Will there be a Mass Effect remaster?" But GameSpot surely got plenty of clicks out of the story, and that's what really matters. I'm personally glad for Bioware to keep their focus on new content.
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Post by Biodron on Sept 1, 2016 17:16:00 GMT
Shame that is not going to be a remastered because my xbox 360 is slowly dying.
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 1, 2016 17:24:41 GMT
They don't need MEA either. It was conceived as a trilogy. Not a franchise. There's a difference. This will prove itself again in time, I think. I think its conception as a trilogy was kind of a mistake. It's such a big universe ripe with potential, but that got shut out largely by having one character determine way too much too quickly.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 1, 2016 17:57:28 GMT
Did you mean to quote the above post and not the one you quoted? Do have a link to the characters you mentioned that say what you posted? I don't recall hearing Shepard say what you posted I don't have a link no, it wasn't something I recorded at the time I was playing through the game, near the start Anderson mentions the special mission and how it hasn't been nearly long enough to give them a chance of success, and when your on tuchunka wrex talks about the arc ships they sent and his not having any faith in them achieving the mission but only if morden dies and succeeds in the cure (and you spilled your guts about the dalatrass, having also saved the salarian major in me1) I only had it happen on 1 play though, which I had saved Ashley and wrex in me1 saved everyone in me2 and not punched any of the reporters ever.... it might be even more involved in the choices field perhaps you had to have done everything in every dlc and side mission in the paragon side of things... I also don't know if it was the ng+ play though or the primary playthough after the import, but I do remember the in game conversations and there being a thread that the mods deleted on the forum about it (so long ago though) where people were asking outright if there was going to be a follow up game set in a new galaxy or not.... I've played the games numerous times. Never heard any of what you've posted. Never read a post from anybody mentioning what you've posted. Never seen a video with the dialogue you've posted
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