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Post by boxofscreaming on Oct 13, 2017 18:57:02 GMT
How about the Sloth Demon from the Broken Circle quest in Origins. I thought it was hilarious: "Why don't you think about someone other than yourself? I'm hurt!"
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Post by boxofscreaming on Nov 5, 2017 20:17:17 GMT
Here's another one: Flissa from Inquisition. She's so nice and I love her liverpudlian accent.
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Post by Sifr on Nov 9, 2017 5:15:23 GMT
Here's another one: Flissa from Inquisition. She's so nice and I love her liverpudlian accent. Flissa is adorable, I always rush to save her during the Haven sequence. (Although her VA Rosie Bucknell is actually Welsh)
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Nov 9, 2017 17:47:26 GMT
I don't like Oghren but I do think he deserves credit as a character whose arc is about failure and being unable to change and just how tragic and horrifying that is.
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Post by Sifr on Nov 11, 2017 7:28:34 GMT
I don't like Oghren but I do think he deserves credit as a character whose arc is about failure and being unable to change and just how tragic and horrifying that is. Even though the writers have said they regret flanderising Oghren in Awakening, I think it's actually fairly realistic that Oghren's alcoholism wasn't something that could be magically fixed simply by befriending the Warden and reconnecting with Felsi. Some people find it far harder to stay on the wagon and once Oghren relapsed, he did so hard. Even if it is a little selfish that he abandoned his family for the Wardens, the game does give some good indicators why he did. Oghren has been consistently depicted as someone who need something to fight and does not handle civilian life well (such as when he was kicked out of the army and stripped of his weapons). He may have sought to join the Wardens to fulfill that need, particularly because as a Berserker he needs to vent aggression in a productive manner. "You kept trying to make me into something I'm not. I can't play house like you want me to! I'm only good at one thing, Fels, and it's killing"The baggage leftover from his tumultuous relationship with Branka further gives him doubt he can ever be a good husband again, as well as make anything with Felsi last long term. He admits this a few times during his personal quest in Awakening. WOT2 also mentions what he finally decided to join the Wardens after the second time he dropped the baby, presumably while drunk. This suggests that Oghren is scared about being a father, especially given his obvious issues with alcohol. He'd rather have his kid grow up thinking he's away being a big damn hero, rather than a deadbeat dad with a drinking problem.
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Post by fylimar on Nov 19, 2017 10:24:09 GMT
I don't like Oghren but I do think he deserves credit as a character whose arc is about failure and being unable to change and just how tragic and horrifying that is. Even though the writers have said they regret flanderising Oghren in Awakening, I think it's actually fairly realistic that Oghren's alcoholism wasn't something that could be magically fixed simply by befriending the Warden and reconnecting with Felsi. Some people find it far harder to stay on the wagon and once Oghren relapsed, he did so hard. Even if it is a little selfish that he abandoned his family for the Wardens, the game does give some good indicators why he did. Oghren has been consistently depicted as someone who need something to fight and does not handle civilian life well (such as when he was kicked out of the army and stripped of his weapons). He may have sought to join the Wardens to fulfill that need, particularly because as a Berserker he needs to vent aggression in a productive manner. "You kept trying to make me into something I'm not. I can't play house like you want me to! I'm only good at one thing, Fels, and it's killing"The baggage leftover from his tumultuous relationship with Branka further gives him doubt he can ever be a good husband again, as well as make anything with Felsi last long term. He admits this a few times during his personal quest in Awakening. WOT2 also mentions what he finally decided to join the Wardens after the second time he dropped the baby, presumably while drunk. This suggests that Oghren is scared about being a father, especially given his obvious issues with alcohol. He'd rather have his kid grow up thinking he's away being a big damn hero, rather than a deadbeat dad with a drinking problem. I never got that background info about Oghren, because by the time, he rejoined in DAA, I was so sick and tired of his stupid jokes, that I never bother with him anymore. He was never in the group and I didn't talk to him in the keep. That tragic background might want me to reconsider. I always only saw him as a failed attempt of a comical relief character. And tbh, since it was pretty clear, he is an alcoholic, I was apalled, that the only gifts, you can give him, is alcohol - what friend does that to another friend? Giving him the stuff, he might die from in a not so distant future. I have to agree about Flissa, she is great. And I like Adan, the grumpy but very efficient healer in Haven
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Dec 6, 2017 3:11:01 GMT
Schmooples!
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Post by Catilina on Dec 6, 2017 10:43:47 GMT
Alistair: "This is Daveth... a fellow from Denerim"Daveth: "That's me, I'm a fellow!"DavethHe was a companion only for a short time, but he has very good moments. He would be a very good companion and perfect LI, why Bioware executed him?! It always makes me sad.
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Post by Catilina on Dec 6, 2017 12:52:12 GMT
Alistair: "This is Daveth... a fellow from Denerim"Daveth: "That's me, I'm a fellow!"DavethHe was a companion only for a short time, but he has very good moments. He would be a very good companion and perfect LI, why Bioware executed him?! It always makes me sad. Daveth reminded me of a young Duncan from the books. He seemed to know a lot of lore about the area and would have been interesting to hear his take on each area. I didn't read The Calling, but I liked Daveth, and was sad to lose him.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 6, 2017 19:43:41 GMT
Lloyd. The Warden can tell him to help defend Redcliffe. He does. He's seen fighting the undead. He's survived more times than being killed when I had him out there.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 10, 2017 23:08:48 GMT
Korbin from MP because he has a great backstory and manages to be a "traditional" dwarf that still finds the surface beautiful. Katari too, but that's mostly because I figure we need a few more qunari at Skyhold. Of the companions - definitely Zevran, as out of AAALLL the elven romances we've had, he gets the least love by far, despite being a very complex character with a heart-wrenching backstory. And last but not least, Rica Brosca. Or... Rica Aeducan, or however that works. Absentee dad, alcoholic mother, had to raise her younger sibling essentially by herself, had little choice but to prostitute herself to escape the hellhole that is Dust Town... and still retained her soft heart and sweet demeanor. She thinks she's going to be Bhelen's concubine but the guy ends up MARRYING her if you make him King. It's possible everyone in the Diamond Quarter is calling this woman Your Highness and she gives Warden Brosca a bouncing baby nephew. SHE'S SO UNDERRATED.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 10, 2017 23:16:17 GMT
Oh, and Nelaros from the female city elf origin.
"I'll spend every waking moment learning to make you happy."
jESUS CHRIST
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Post by Sifr on Dec 19, 2017 5:49:35 GMT
Alistair: "This is Daveth... a fellow from Denerim"Daveth: "That's me, I'm a fellow!"DavethHe was a companion only for a short time, but he has very good moments. He would be a very good companion and perfect LI, why Bioware executed him?! It always makes me sad. Daveth is my favourite "What if?" companion, would have liked to have seen him interact more with various members of the rest of the party. I feel like he'd have gotten along well with Oghren and Zevran, while devoting most of his time to flirting with Leliana. Another thing they could have done is have Daveth survive slightly longer and become a Warden, only to be killed in the ambush set by Zevran. This leaves us with the dilemma of whether we should kill Zev to avenge a fallen comrade, or do we accept his offer to join us because we're now a man down? As both Zev and Daveth both start as DW Rogues, there'd not be a balance issue because he could easily step into his shoes (as Loghain can do for Alistair as our tank). (Now I'm in the mood for an AU where Daveth, Jory and Mhairi all survived the Joining, anyone know if anyone has written one?) Oh, and Nelaros from the female city elf origin. "I'll spend every waking moment learning to make you happy."jESUS CHRIST Even sadder that he actually stepped up to lead the rescue effort, only for us to arrive moment too late to rescue him in return. If he'd survived, would have been nice to have some different fates shown for him. If we'd not taken the fall for either him or Soris, we later find his body in Howe's dungeon. If we'd covered for both of them, maybe he could have been helping Shianni trying to convince people the Tevinters were up to no good? Or maybe we'd find him in the Dalish camp, learning he had to flee Denerim after the guard discovered he was the one who instigated the rescue mission? (Btw did we learn what happened to Nesiara, the male CE's fiance? Did she go back to Highever or was she taken by the slavers?)
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 19, 2017 6:08:55 GMT
Sifr I'm 99% sure Nesiara headed back to Highever when Tabris was conscripted. Soris's bride, on the other hand... And I agree it would have been interesting if Nelaros hadn't died, though taking the ring off his corpse and wearing it until Zevran offered the earring was pretty satisfying. If Nelaros survived, I probably never would have romanced anyone else! You know, the more I look at them the more I wonder if Nelaros and Nesiara are siblings.
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Post by Walter Black on Dec 19, 2017 18:01:33 GMT
Alistair: "This is Daveth... a fellow from Denerim"Daveth: "That's me, I'm a fellow!"DavethHe was a companion only for a short time, but he has very good moments. He would be a very good companion and perfect LI, why Bioware executed him?! It always makes me sad. Daveth is my favourite "What if?" companion, would have liked to have seen him interact more with various members of the rest of the party. I feel like he'd have gotten along well with Oghren and Zevran, while devoting most of his time to flirting with Leliana. Another thing they could have done is have Daveth survive slightly longer and become a Warden, only to be killed in the ambush set by Zevran. This leaves us with the dilemma of whether we should kill Zev to avenge a fallen comrade, or do we accept his offer to join us because we're now a man down? As both Zev and Daveth both start as DW Rogues, there'd not be a balance issue because he could easily step into his shoes (as Loghain can do for Alistair as our tank). (Now I'm in the mood for an AU where Daveth, Jory and Mhairi all survived the Joining, anyone know if anyone has written one?) At least those guys get names and a smidgen of backstory, the Tower of Ishal guards don't even get that. I like to headcanon that the white haired soldier is a grizzled, "two weeks from retirement-too old for this shit" type with gallows humor along the lines of Dolorous Edd Tollett. The dark haired one is a naïve farmboy who wants to see the world. Farmboy gets along with everyone, but makes comments he has no idea can sound racist to non humans, and honestly apologizes when called out. Oh, and he's a HUGE Loghain fanboy, to further twist the knife . The mage initially comes off as an insufferable genius, especially to non mages. You can point out that it's just a cover for being scared, since high marks in class are no match for real war. Ultimately he does want to help and go back to the Circle as soon as possible. Thanks Loghain .
I do think it would have been fittingly ironic if Jory survived the Joining if he went first...
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Post by Walter Black on Dec 19, 2017 18:11:52 GMT
Sifr I'm 99% sure Nesiara headed back to Highever when Tabris was conscripted. Soris's bride, on the other hand... And I agree it would have been interesting if Nelaros hadn't died, though taking the ring off his corpse and wearing it until Zevran offered the earring was pretty satisfying. If Nelaros survived, I probably never would have romanced anyone else! If any of them were taken to Tevinter and get a cameo in DA4, expect their accents to change . I guess I'm one of the few who liked the American Elves, as it was different from the genre standard of giving them English or Irish accents.
Sorry, Canadian Elves .
Possible, as the main reason City Elves exchange people is to widen the gene pool.
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Post by Sifr on Dec 25, 2017 10:12:12 GMT
If any of them were taken to Tevinter and get a cameo in DA4, expect their accents to change . I guess I'm one of the few who liked the American Elves, as it was different from the genre standard of giving them English or Irish accents.
Sorry, Canadian Elves . I wouldn't mind the City Elves continuing to remain a weird mix of English and North American accents, since it does better distinguish the City Elves from the Dalish. And in-universe, we could easily chalk this up to a thousand years of City Elves living in close proximity to (mostly English) Humans and (North American) Surface Dwarves, causing them to lose the more Celtic accent we see sported by the Dalish and Ancient Elves.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Dec 27, 2017 19:30:45 GMT
I think my ultimate honourable mention is uncle Gamlen. He's mostly a jerk, but blood's thicker than water and I like how Hawke has this dodgy relative who's a part of their life whether they like it or not. Charade was great too.
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Post by Toledo wombat on Jan 5, 2018 14:19:30 GMT
I'd like to agree about the Awakenings crew. Nathaniel, Velanna, Oghren and Sigrun. OOOO and that crazy exploding dwarf! Also Finn and Arianne, i'm glad someone else remembers them.
From DA2: Jethann (my favourite elven gigolo), Athenril the tough elven smuggler, Kerran the babyfaced Templar, Lya the elfgirl who can join the guards, Feynriel and Orana, whose Hawke's housekeeper in my games.
DA3: I love Minaeve and all the Chargers, notably Krem and Dalish. Your Trainer.
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Post by Fredward on Jan 5, 2018 15:28:29 GMT
More Vivi praise from me. For me the core of her character is fear and control, with the latter being the panacea for the former. I don't mean fear here as in traditional fear, the kind of fear Sera often displays for instance, instead it's the kind of fear people meant when they coined the term homophobia (I assume). It's the fear that makes you lash out, to make the thing causing the fear go away.
It's obvious where it springs from, Vivienne mentions that her she considers that her life started in the Circle and she seems to have embraced the things she was taught there entirely. "Magic is dangerous just as fire is dangerous," the heavy emphasis on mastery/control of the self sort of formed Viv. It's also in the Circle where she learned that if you do have control over a dangerous thing it means you have power. Iron Bull mentions this in a party banter when he says Vivienne has this swagger like she knows she's the most dangerous thing in the room.
So when this dynamic is established for her it flows naturally and logically into the world beyond the Circle as she starts moving beyond its boundaries, the world of politics. The Game is dangerous but if you display mastery in it it means you have power, control. She adorns herself with these externally visible markings of her skill (most obviously her ostentatious way of dressing) like a hunter would have those animal heads they hang up in their houses. People try to mock her for this, like Skywatcher: "Ludicrous is what you decided to wear to a bog, Orlesian" and Blackwall when he mentions her silks and mansions and she just says she misses them but she does not require them. And she doesn't, I don't think. If Vivienne really cared about what she wore she'd dress down when going adventuring, it isn't about the clothes or the external trappings of success it's about what they communicate and convey.
This extends to her personal relationships as well. She's not incapable of being friendly or having friends or being in love it's just that these always have some level of additional benefit to them as well. Her relationship with Bastien is the most obvious example, the affection is genuine but it's through that association that she climbed as high as she did in Orlesian society. After first attempting to save him she almost immediately makes sure she spins his death into political gain. They seem fundamentally welded together. With companions she gets along with well (Cassandra is the only one who comes to mind, and Bull but that's kinda wonky) the political benefit is obvious, Nevarran royalty, Right Hand of the Divine, it's a powerful person and fostering good relations is an intuitively good idea. With the Inquisitor as well, if you choose to be nice with her, she winds up giving you a gift which I think is, again, representative of genuine affection but I'm sure anyone who matters will recognize who had it made as well.
For people she doesn't like she either ignores them (I don't think she dislikes Varric but when he asks her for gossip she dismisses it because there wouldn't be any benefit in giving him gossip, he's not useful to her so she doesn't need to offer him something like that) or puts them down, she probably handles Sera's antics the most effectively by just completely depriving her of a response, control again. The only time she's caught off-guard or seems uncomfortable are certain conversations with Solas when he implies or hints that he knows more about magic than she does, she still parries but it doesn't have the same kind of energy of vivre she usually has. Another example of this "always needing to be in control and rhetorical devices to deploy to ensure it" is with Cassandra after Bastien dies:
That "More questions!" line is brittle, vaguely panicked, she likes Cassandra so she can't just tell her to go fuck herself but at the same time being on the receiving end of agendaless kindness is not a comfortable position for her, it's not a position of control.
She believes in the Circle because it promises control, safety. She associates self-governing mages with chaos because she sees magic as fundamentally chaotic and dangerous, she has "learned her lessons all too well" as Solas puts it. At the same time the potential for advance and betterment of her own position is always there as well.
She's also surprisingly soft-hearted. She's one of the few companions that approve when you safe everyone in Haven, her voice cracks when you find out what happened to many of the Tranquil (the skull things you spot the shards with), if you take her to that execution in Val Royeaux she seems disgusted with the audience mentioning that she thought "we were better than this." She also fusses over you after Haven, gives you a spa day and I think she's the only companion who notices something is up with your hand and then offers to do something about it in Trespasser.
Another reason I like Viv is because I think her VA did an absolutely impeccable job, she completely inhabits the character. Viv could easily have been the cold, bitch, elitist, tyrannical etc dragon lady so many people seem to assume she is (she is but she's also not just that and why she's that is almost more interesting and compelling than the mere fact that she is) but there are moments of vulnerability and nuance the VA gives her that's just amazing, like when you talk to her after Bastien dies it's like you can literally hear her pulling herself back together, putting the mask back on. I really hope we'll see Indira Varma again in some capacity.
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Post by arvaarad on Jan 6, 2018 4:48:26 GMT
The only time she's caught off-guard or seems uncomfortable are certain conversations with Solas when he implies or hints that he knows more about magic than she does, she still parries but it doesn't have the same kind of energy of vivre she usually has. I truly think she was the companion closest to figuring Solas out. Well, other than Cole. But Cole was cheating. She seems to play up the “narrow-minded Chantry mage” angle extra hard when he’s in earshot. It’s an utterly predictable hot button for him, and it makes him careless. Meanwhile she’s taking a whole list of mental notes.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Jan 19, 2018 19:04:15 GMT
Lanaya - an elven Ashley Williams.
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