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Post by fylimar on Apr 18, 2017 17:30:14 GMT
my unpopular opinions: I really don't like Alistair and Morrigan, they are so annoying. At least you can kill off Ali in DAO or DAI, but Morrigan has too much plot armor for my taste. I like Vivienne, at least she bitches with style (yes, Morrigan, I'm looking at you ), plus I like her vulnerable moments, because they are so rare And I like Wynne. I like the story of DA2 more than DAO, I'm not that into end of the world stuff. Despite that, I also like DAI more than DAO - because of the companions. I'm not a fan of the Deep Roads, they only part, I liked there so far, was the broodmother in DAO - that creepy poem and the really grizzly enviroment gave me a sense of the dread in the DR for the first and only time. Mostly the Deep Roads look like a ride in Disneyland (which is sad, because BW can do interesting and creepy maps)
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Post by azarhal on Apr 18, 2017 17:41:56 GMT
Going by how I was coming to say DA2 was the best game in the franchise and how many people said so already, it might not be that much of an unpopular opinions. lol.
DAO is my least favorite DA games gameplay-wise. DA2 is my favorite.
I don't like any of the DAO companions outside of Wynne.
My favorite DA2 companion is Aveline and I don't like Fenris.
I don't trust Morrigan and I wish I could have killed her already.
I believe Solas is blinded by Pride.
I believe Mythal's murder wasn't when she was betrayed, she planned her murder so she could go in "hiding" and set things in motion to get her revenge.
I didn't believe that Andruil was into blood magic/people sacrifice after Solas "goddess of Sacrifice". Solas has a crazy Mythal bias and it's clear Andruil and Mythal didn't get along though. But I think people forget "In War, Victory. In Peace, Vigilance. In Death, Sacrifice. (Grey Wardens)" and "Let mine be the last sacrifice (Andraste)" and the Eluvia legend too easily.
I believe there is too many similarities and connections between Korth The Mountain-Father, Andruil, Ghilan'nain, Eluvia, Razikal, Lady of the Skies, Belenas and the Golden City in the tales/myths/lore for it to be a coincidences. I'm not quite sure what it all means though, but it wouldn't surprise me if Andruil wasn't a fan of killing Titans.
I believe that the Balance was broken by Mythal when she killed a titan and made the dwarves stop dreaming and not when the Veil was raised...
I find Cassandra romance tarot card creepy (that bloody red hand in the bloody moon).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 20:33:05 GMT
my unpopular opinions: I really don't like Alistair and Morrigan, they are so annoying. At least you can kill off Ali in DAO or DAI, but Morrigan has too much plot armor for my taste. I like Vivienne, at least she bitches with style (yes, Morrigan, I'm looking at you ), plus I like her vulnerable moments, because they are so rare And I like Wynne. I like the story of DA2 more than DAO, I'm not that into end of the world stuff. Despite that, I also like DAI more than DAO - because of the companions. I'm not a fan of the Deep Roads, they only part, I liked there so far, was the broodmother in DAO - that creepy poem and the really grizzly enviroment gave me a sense of the dread in the DR for the first and only time. Mostly the Deep Roads look like a ride in Disneyland (which is sad, because BW can do interesting and creepy maps) I wanted to kill Alistair too but Bioware decided him being king should be canon so I cannot have him executed
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Post by themikefest on Apr 18, 2017 22:22:32 GMT
the fade quest in DAO is the best quest in all DA there should be an option to let Loghain execute Alistair after Alistair refuses to help fight the darkspawn Inquisitor should be able to romance Celene there should be an option to have Gaspaud, briala and Celene killed. If Vivienne is with the Inquistor, she is made Empress of Orlais
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Post by Catilina on Apr 18, 2017 22:45:59 GMT
I think Cullen got away with too much for me to like him I think Hawke is dumb as hell Complete mage freedom, no circles, no templars, mages ruling themselves is just an invitation to make Thedas even shittier while making it even cushier for a demigod minority I think the most confrontational and most hostile mage/elf fans are the most obnoxious creatures I've ever seen with seagulls coming in as a close second
I think Divine Leliana's mage-allied ending tosses all sense of belief out the window and into the dumpster I think compared to every other system of belief/structure in Thedas, the southern Chantry is the best
I think Iron Bull is an Iron Douche I think none of the romance options in any of the games are particularly interesting Most of the negative interpretations of Vivienne are transparent I think Alistair is a mantoddler I think Aveline was a garbage captain who should be held responsible for the death of Leandra I think Velanna should have replaced Anders and the nameless "Crazed Elf Fanatic" antagonist in Act 2 as it would have tied Dalish/Qun/Chantry conflicts together You think, that if they would be demigods, they would just sit on their ass in the Circles, and wait for tranquility/annulment/etc? That would be illogical on their part. I like seagulls. Sadly, the Chantry corrupted. But purged by fire, and reborn from the ashes (probably) clearly and gloriously (lead by Leliana who will kill everyone who disturbs the peace keep the peace).
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Post by Soulforge on Apr 19, 2017 1:15:24 GMT
I don't mind the Fade in DAO much.
I actually love the Deep Roads.
I dislike how much elf lore focus there is.
I like aggressive Hawke just as much as sarcastic Hawke (sometimes more.)
I don't really like Merrill, especially as a romance.
I don't find Bethany particularly more likable than Carver.
I prefer leaving Hawke in the Fade - under the rationale that I let that decision be guided by what Hawke would do. It's not the Inquisitor's decision in my mind.
I prefer conscripting the mages in DAI.
Dwarf is my favorite Inquisitor, because I love that a dwarf is stopping the sky trying to kill people. Oghren was right.
I loathe Vivienne as a person, but she's one of my favorite characters in the franchise.
I hate Arcane Warrior/Knight Enchanter and they've always bored me to death.
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Post by arvaarad on Apr 19, 2017 1:16:45 GMT
Reading a combat thread reminded me of another one: I like Vivienne. Hard to articulate it, but I really identified with her urge to live within the boundaries you have, in reality, and not the ones you'd wish to have. It isn't traditionally heroic, but sometimes it's what you've got, you know? So I like her... ...but I could never bring her anywhere, because I strongly dislike the Knight Enchanter spec. Fight me, KEs.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 19, 2017 1:22:55 GMT
[...] I don't find Bethany particularly more likable than Carver. [...] This isn't unpopular. So many people found Carver more fun, and found Bethany boring. I like her, but still, prefer this annoying bastard. Templar Carver the is best. He's pretty good with a sarcastic jerk Hawke, who teasing him and laughs at him. I bring him everywhere, mostly with Anders.
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Post by Soulforge on Apr 19, 2017 1:29:19 GMT
[...] I don't find Bethany particularly more likable than Carver. [...] This isn't unpopular. So many people found Carver more fun, and found Bethany boring. I like her, but still, prefer this annoying bastard. Templar Carver the is best. He's pretty good with a sarcastic jerk Hawke, who teasing him and laughs at him. To be fair, I've never played Mage Hawke. I always got the impression Bethany was more popular than Carver, but I don't really care for either of them. Maybe I'll have to try a Mage with Templar Carver some day.
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Post by formerfiend on Apr 19, 2017 4:19:54 GMT
Loghain is the best, most compelling character in the series thus far.
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Post by isaidlunch on Apr 19, 2017 4:49:52 GMT
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Post by smilesja on Apr 19, 2017 6:28:32 GMT
I was pretty disappointed that straight men couldn't marry their LI in Inquisition.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 6:52:31 GMT
the fade quest in DAO is the best quest in all DA there should be an option to let Loghain execute Alistair after Alistair refuses to help fight the darkspawn Inquisitor should be able to romance Celene there should be an option to have Gaspaud, briala and Celene killed. If Vivienne is with the Inquistor, she is made Empress of Orlaisor making Sera both Empress and Divine
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Post by Iddy on Apr 19, 2017 11:08:52 GMT
Reading a combat thread reminded me of another one: I like Vivienne. Hard to articulate it, but I really identified with her urge to live within the boundaries you have, in reality, and not the ones you'd wish to have. It isn't traditionally heroic, but sometimes it's what you've got, you know? Except that she is NOT living within the boundaries most mages do.
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Post by piratesnugglecakes on Apr 19, 2017 14:26:51 GMT
Unpopular opinions...ok.
DA2 is my least favorite Bioware Game. I can't stand the retconning on the appearance of the Darkspawn, the Qunari and the elves.
I liked the combat from DA:O.
I would rather have had Oghren show up in DA:I then Hawke. What happened in Kirkwall, should have stayed in Kirkwall.
I liked Flemeth better as a nondescript old woman in the wilds rather than a BDSM looking leather clad dragon queen.
I wish a Mabari would have been included as a companion rather than a summoning. One less person to whine and complain as we travel the lands.
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Post by xerrai on Apr 19, 2017 18:34:10 GMT
My unpopular opinions?
I believe anyone who believes "free" mages will instantly result in a Tevinter 2.0 or will instantly wreak unchecked havoc just because the Circles aren't a thing are either really overestimating the mages or really underestimating the natural tendency for people to defend their positions of power and way of life. You think Orlesian nobles will tolerate mage cabals threatening trade routes and lives with their "We deserve to be gods among men" spiel? A detachment of chevaliers or an angry mob will be dispatched to kill them off before they gained much momentum. And if any organized mage resistance came in wanting to create Tevinter out of some nation that already sits there, they have an entire national army to deal with plus people that just hate mages and are willing to perform vigilante justice. If by some chance of luck they actually do get a winning chance in conquering some nation, then will likely have to deal with several more forces as all of a sudden the majority of southern Thedas starts sending their aid to quell the 'evil mage state'. It won't matter if the Chantry calls it in or not, an "Exalted March" to quell the 'evil mages' is a cause that all to easily able to gain momentum.
No matter what they do, the mages will not be "free" in the way most understand it. The mages must either learn to abide by the law of the land or face the military might those who enforce it. And to be fair, a good amount of mages understand this (or at least seem to). But I have little doubt that those who want to use their magic for the sake of hurting others "just because they can" are going to be among the first who get purged. If mages are not sufficient to manage themselves, then there is no doubt in my mind that national powers will step in. Depending on how badly the mages handle it, they will basically send themselves back to square one and end up in a Circle again that may or may not be under a different name.
I believe the templars, while useful, are not all that necessary. Even if the other nations could never get ahold of lyrium to embed their soldiers with anti-magic powers, there already exists certain institutions that are still decently knowledgeable about combating magical threats (ex. chevaliers). It would be more challenging than typical templar deployments perhaps, but the templars are far from the only non-mage solution to managing magical threats. Every nation could just as well develop their own "templar order" equivalent if they were so inclined and if they believed there was a need (ex. "free" mages). The only reason they haven't yet is because of the Chantry (both in monopolizing the supply of lyrium on the surface and having the only legitimate claim to overseeing the Circle of Magi--and thus all mages in Andrastian nations).
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Post by Catilina on Apr 19, 2017 18:54:14 GMT
My unpopular opinions? I believe anyone who believes "free" mages will instantly result in a Tevinter 2.0 or will instantly wreak unchecked havoc just because the Circles aren't a thing are either really overestimating the mages or really underestimating the natural tendency for people to defend their positions of power and way of life. You think Orlesian nobles will tolerate mage cabals threatening trade routes and lives with their "We deserve to be gods among men" spiel? A detachment of chevaliers or an angry mob will be dispatched to kill them off before they gained much momentum. And if any organized mage resistance came in wanting to create Tevinter out of some nation that already sits there, they have an entire national army to deal with plus people that just hate mages and are willing to perform vigilante justice. If by some chance of luck they actually do get a winning chance in conquering some nation, then will likely have to deal with several more forces as all of a sudden the majority of southern Thedas starts sending their aid to quell the 'evil mage state'. It won't matter if the Chantry calls it in or not, an "Exalted March" to quell the 'evil mages' is a cause that all to easily able to gain momentum. No matter what they do, the mages will not be "free" in the way most understand it. The mages must either learn to abide by the law of the land or face the military might those who enforce it. And to be fair, a good amount of mages understand this (or at least seem to). But I have little doubt that those who want to use their magic for the sake of hurting others "just because they can" are going to be among the first who get purged. If mages are not sufficient to manage themselves, then there is no doubt in my mind that national powers will step in. Depending on how badly the mages handle it, they will basically send themselves back to square one and end up in a Circle again that may or may not be under a different name. I believe the templars, while useful, are not all that necessary. Even if the other nations could never get ahold of lyrium to embed their soldiers with anti-magic powers, there already exists certain institutions that are still decently knowledgeable about combating magical threats (ex. chevaliers). It would be more challenging than typical templar deployments perhaps, but the templars are far from the only non-mage solution to managing magical threats. Every nation could just as well develop their own "templar order" equivalent if they were so inclined and if they believed there was a need (ex. "free" mages). The only reason they haven't yet is because of the Chantry (both in monopolizing the supply of lyrium on the surface and having the only legitimate claim to overseeing the Circle of Magi--and thus all mages in Andrastian nations). This is natural, this is the freedom. Every people must to abide the (right) law. The freedom even duty, towards the others. Templars (prefer without lyrium, if not necessary...) are important but I prefer Seekers, and the Mages also can help to maintain the order. The people needs law, and law enforcement forces for the life, but everyone needs freedom (ofc, except the criminals).
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Post by Sylvius the Mad on Apr 19, 2017 20:04:50 GMT
The Fade and the Deep Roads are the best parts of DAO.
Saving Redcliffe in DAO is idiotic.
There was no story-based reason why the surviving Hawke sibling needed to be a different class.
The best thing about DA2 is that it's possible to play the whole game and never meet Fenris.
DAI's tactical camera works brilliantly.
DAI's best DLC is Jaws of Hakkon.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 19, 2017 20:26:07 GMT
The Fade and the Deep Roads are the best parts of DAO.
Saving Redcliffe in DAO is idiotic. There was no story-based reason why the surviving Hawke sibling needed to be a different class.
The best thing about DA2 is that it's possible to play the whole game and never meet Fenris. DAI's tactical camera works brilliantly. DAI's best DLC is Jaws of Hakkon. I also like Fade quests in all three games. This was story base, or okay, rather drama base. Templar Carver give a somehow acceptable reason to mage Hawke to supporting Templars (at the end). Circle Mage Bethany give non-mage Hawke mage viewpoint, and makes it harder to support Templars (okay, I saw here an opinion that for protecting Circle Mage Bethany better way to support the Templars, but this isn't that Bethany wants, I think). So, perhaps, there are some tactical reason to have opposite class brother/sister, but it seems meaningless, because we have Merrill and Anders.
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Post by sahlie on Apr 19, 2017 20:55:32 GMT
This is funny! I think mages shouldn't be free. They are dangerous I really dislike elves. I find them boring. The only ones I like are the non elfy type (zevran and sera, I love sera) I made the DR in DAO because I think is much more important to keep the soul of an old God than the kid's. My BFF said so and I believed her.
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Post by phoray on Apr 19, 2017 21:21:54 GMT
The more I play, the more I think some people should just be dead.
Connor and Bartrand are two for sure. But I also think Arl Eamon should die. Getting ashes to keep him alive is pretty dumb
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Apr 19, 2017 21:32:39 GMT
My unpopular opinions? I believe anyone who believes "free" mages will instantly result in a Tevinter 2.0 or will instantly wreak unchecked havoc just because the Circles aren't a thing are either really overestimating the mages or really underestimating the natural tendency for people to defend their positions of power and way of life. That actually seems to be a pretty popular one. But the dumb mages will start wreaking havoc pretty much instantly. Some might go Chaotic Evil and start doing what the CEs in the Hinterlands did. I imagine they won't last long. The slightly smarter ones will join organized crime groups and move up. The lucky ones might even live to have children, and those children might be born mages. Those children might go legit, or they might learn how to do crime well from their parents. The actually smart ones? Well, it depends on how ambitious they are. Some probably won't live lives that different from what they did in the Circle, only they'll be getting more sunlight and working directly for the people instead of for the Templars. The smart and ambitious ones will get jobs working for the authorities. Then they might use blood magic to bend them and control them behind the scenes. That might backfire, but until and unless it does an amoral mage has way more power than they should. Or a mage who doesn't like that plan (either because of the risk or for moral reasons) might just use their much greater than normal power to start racking up accomplishments in service to their sovereign, and maybe get a few fiefs here and there. They don't rule, but if that mage has a child, that mage starts as a lord, and when they marry, that mage's child might marry someone more powerful and get into a stronger family. Or a mage born to a noble family* just keeps their title, and starts using their power to increase their family's prestige. Eventually the mage's descendants start marrying into royal lines, and the heads of state start being born mages. Then any noble of status enough to marry into the royal family starts getting some mage blood, and more and more of the most politically powerful people are mages. I don't think Tevinter 2.0 will happen instantly, but absent any controls I think it would happen. * That does seem to happen a lot, doesn't it? I think the thing where Southern Noble houses turn out to be founded by cadet members of Tevinter families a la the Trevelyans must be pretty common.
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Apr 19, 2017 21:36:50 GMT
At least you can kill off Ali in DAO or DAI, but Morrigan has too much plot armor for my taste. That seems to be more popular than you think, actually. I don't share that opinion, but others here seem to. Maybe it would be comforting to remember that plot armor only works as long as the devs say it does? Morrigan could very well die in DA4. When freeing Rainer from prison, the Inquisitor should have the option to make him wear a jester outfit or execute him A bit on the vengeful side, there? Maybe the "you're my jester" option should have been open to a few more judgements. In fact when I heard you could do that I was looking forward to doing that to as my only sentence in at least one playthrough, and kinda disappointed when I learned I couldn't. But as for executing Blackwall, it seems like a bit of a waste to (at least with most options) technically commit a crime to remove a man death row just because you want to be the one to execute him. Agreed. If Sebastian wants him dead that badly, it's only polite to offer him the chance to do it. And if Anders tried to get you to sell Fenris back into slavery, maybe Fenris wants to do it. I think Cullen got away with too much for me to like him I think Hawke is dumb as hell Complete mage freedom, no circles, no templars, mages ruling themselves is just an invitation to make Thedas even shittier while making it even cushier for a demigod minority
I think the most confrontational and most hostile mage/elf fans are the most obnoxious creatures I've ever seen with seagulls coming in as a close second
I think Divine Leliana's mage-allied ending tosses all sense of belief out the window and into the dumpster I think compared to every other system of belief/structure in Thedas, the southern Chantry is the best
I think Iron Bull is an Iron Douche I think none of the romance options in any of the games are particularly interesting Most of the negative interpretations of Vivienne are transparent I think Alistair is a mantoddler I think Aveline was a garbage captain who should be held responsible for the death of Leandra I think Velanna should have replaced Anders and the nameless "Crazed Elf Fanatic" antagonist in Act 2 as it would have tied Dalish/Qun/Chantry conflicts together You think, that if they would be demigods, they would just sit on their ass in the Circles, and wait for tranquility/annulment/etc? That would be illogical on their part. Saying they're demi-gods may be stretching it (except maybe with the surviving Pre-Chantry mages) but they are dangerous. They have the ability to rewire minds, summon demons, shoot fire from their hands, and whatever else they're taught. They rule every society where they aren't restricted except for the Avvar (where the top mage shares power with the top muggle) and Rivain (and even that's questionable since they serve as local rulers in a state where the heads have almost no power) because pretty much the only thing that can stop them if they want to rule is society being built around doing so.That is an unpopular opinion. But it's one I happen to share.
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Post by oyabun on Apr 19, 2017 21:57:45 GMT
It shouldn't have been possible for Alistair to become king of Ferelden. First of all, he's a bastard and there's no proof of his parentage. He might as well be a pretender - why on earth would the nobility of Ferelden accept him as their king? Secondly, he's a Grey Warden. Wardens were just not so long ago allowed to return to Ferelden after being exiled for attempted coup. Now you expect me to believe people would just accept him as their king? Not to mention, Wardens are not to meddle with politics. There's already unrest in Weisshaupt with rumors about the First Warden attempting to seize power in the Anderfells, but they just overlook Alistair abandoning the order to play king? Makes no sense, especially considering how secretive the Wardens are and now Alistair's main loyalty must be to his kingdom, so realistically he could be a threat to the Wardens. Thirdly, he has no credibility. He's not a leader and has no idea what it means to be a king. Yet suddenly (according to the codex entries in various games) he's a good king? Just like that? Pffft. There should've been consequences for giving the throne to an inexperienced moron like Alistair, rebellions and attempted coups, smallfolk revolts, diplomatic incidents with other nations (especially Orlais), keeping arl Eamon and the Warden busy since they're probably the ones who'd have to clean up after Alistair's mistakes. I think he'd be a catastrophic king and it's a shame the games don't reflect these choices realistically (instead every out come is pretty much the same for Alistair and Anora). I think Alistair either should never have been an option to be a king or if he was his reign should have been anything but happy and peaceful. Eamon would have been a much better choice for king, just like Alistair himself said. I can't disagree with anything that you've said since your points make it impossible to form any good argument against it.I had noticed long ago this issue,the fact that there is no way to prove that Alistair is Maric son regardless of what Eamon says since his existence was kept a secret and the only one who could somehow prove it is Maric himself,which is not in the game. So why the nobles should believe that he is son of Maric is beyond my understanding.
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Post by oyabun on Apr 19, 2017 22:01:46 GMT
At least you can kill off Ali in DAO or DAI, but Morrigan has too much plot armor for my taste. That seems to be more popular than you think, actually. I don't share that opinion, but others here seem to. Maybe it would be comforting to remember that plot armor only works as long as the devs say it does? Morrigan could very well die in DA4. I begun to share that opinion when I had saw her survive a fall from the sky in DAI for no reason and without any damages,i think that made no sense at all.
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