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Post by Awkward Octopus on Aug 2, 2016 14:24:14 GMT
Hi, all!
It feels weird to create a new thread...
I suspect it's worth talking about spoiler policy now, before significant spoilers start rolling in. I don't necessarily advocate having separate spoiler and non-spoiler sub-forums like in BSN Prime, but I'm also the kind of person who can sometimes take months for my first playthrough (I was building a new PC when Inquisition came out and didn't even get started until January).
Is relying on diligent use of spoiler tags enough? Should the Twitter thread remain spoiler-free? Should there be a time limit on spoilers (no spoilers for XX number of days/weeks/months after release?)
I like to avoid spoilers. I haven't even read whatever that leak is that people keep talking about (I kinda have the jist of it, despite my efforts, because people keep referencing it...). I don't mind minor things - that's why I read the Twitter thread. But it would have been nice not to know about Cory-pants before I got there.
Apologies if there's already been discussion about this. I missed it, if so.
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Post by Nimlowyn on Aug 2, 2016 14:32:36 GMT
I came across significant spoilers for DAI in the non-spoiler section of the old BSN 2 months after release. Would really appreciate a robust, and enforced, spoilers policy on the new BSN.
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Post by capn233 on Aug 2, 2016 14:47:46 GMT
At least for new release games, if there isn't separate story and strategy forums (which would have and not have spoilers respectively), probably should encourage users to put "*spoilers" or something like that in the thread title.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 2, 2016 14:56:41 GMT
These are good discussions, thanks for raising them.
With DAI nearly 2 years behind us, I don't think it is practicable to require spoilers for any past BioWare games. If anyone hasn't played them by now, they shouldn't be crawling boards such as this one.
I think spoiler robustness needs to go beyond policy i.e.
I expect there will a clear outline about which sections are spoiler-free, but we know what people are like, so moderators will be on high alert.
I think there is a case for special 'Safe zone thread(s)' which are particularly highly scrutinised.
Naturally we should make it very clear how spoiler tags work, but people can be dumb with that too.
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Post by DragonRacer on Aug 2, 2016 15:10:04 GMT
No, this is an excellent conversation to have and one of the topics I was thinking about last night, actually. I suppose we're fortunate this move is happening during a relative downtime so that we can come to a consensus on spoiler policy before MEA starts having massive info releases (if it even does prior to release).
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 2, 2016 15:24:17 GMT
It's kind and polite trying to avoid spoilers. If there's enough people to pay attention (police it) to it, I'd set up a strict no-spoiler-section and the rest is free to talk about what they want to talk.
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Post by Draining Dragon on Aug 2, 2016 15:30:15 GMT
These are good discussions, thanks for raising them. With DAI nearly 2 years behind us, I don't think it is practicable to require spoilers for any past BioWare games. If anyone hasn't played them by now, they shouldn't be crawling boards such as this one. I think spoiler robustness needs to go beyond policy i.e. I expect there will a clear outline about which sections are spoiler-free, but we know what people are like, so moderators will be on high alert. I think there is a case for special 'Safe zone thread(s)' which are particularly highly scrutinised. Naturally we should make it very clear how spoiler tags work, but people can be dumb with that too. I really like the idea of spoiler-free threads. We could sticky them to the top of each forum. |
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 2, 2016 16:24:35 GMT
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Post by Draining Dragon on Aug 2, 2016 16:26:22 GMT
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Post by Awkward Octopus on Aug 2, 2016 16:36:30 GMT
Looks nice! I have a question, though. I mostly frequent the Twitter threads. Would this new thread be considered a spoiler-free version of the Twitter thread? Or is it a separate discussion thread? Specifically, when spoilers start happening, would I be expected abandon the Twitter thread and go to the "safe zone" exclusively? Or, instead, is this more of a complement to the Twitter thread for discussion purposes (so the Twitter thread doesn't stray too far off-topic)? |
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 2, 2016 16:39:47 GMT
I like the idea in concept... Though having this thread in a forum with other threads with (possible/likely) spoilers in their subject lines could be an issue. Unless a "no spoilers in the subject lines" is strictly enforced in the forum. Maybe create a single Safe Haven Forum for all the games...? |
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Post by Rascoth on Aug 2, 2016 16:44:11 GMT
Looks nice! I have a question, though. I mostly frequent the Twitter threads. Would this new thread be considered a spoiler-free version of the Twitter thread? Or is it a separate discussion thread? Specifically, when spoilers start happening, would I be expected abandon the Twitter thread and go to the "safe zone" exclusively? Or, instead, is this more of a complement to the Twitter thread for discussion purposes (so the Twitter thread doesn't stray too far off-topic)? There are two Twitter Threads. Discussion and Archive. Discussion is where all derailing happens and to tell the truth, while we might try our best, no one knows when will spoiler slip in. Archive is for tweets alone, so if you fear those accidental spoilers, maybe this is the best version for you (well, at least when marketing starts, for now everything is really calm). |
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Post by luketrevelyan on Aug 2, 2016 16:44:54 GMT
I like having separate spoiler-free sub-forums, at least for a little while. Spoilers in subject lines have gotten me before. Although I usually get paranoid when it gets super close to release and just avoid forums altogether.
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Post by Awkward Octopus on Aug 2, 2016 16:48:37 GMT
Looks nice! I have a question, though. I mostly frequent the Twitter threads. Would this new thread be considered a spoiler-free version of the Twitter thread? Or is it a separate discussion thread? Specifically, when spoilers start happening, would I be expected abandon the Twitter thread and go to the "safe zone" exclusively? Or, instead, is this more of a complement to the Twitter thread for discussion purposes (so the Twitter thread doesn't stray too far off-topic)? There are two Twitter Threads. Discussion and Archive. Discussion is where all derailing happens and to tell the truth, while we might try our best, no one knows when will spoiler slip in. Archive is for tweets alone, so if you fear those accidental spoilers, maybe this is the best version for you (well, at least when marketing starts, for now everything is really calm). Yes, I saw that. I like being able to discuss the Tweets, though. I might not participate very often, but I like having the option, and seeing what other people have to say. I really liked how, in BSN Prime, the Twitter thread was in the non-spoiler section of the forum. I'm not saying we should definitely emulate that... but maybe consider it? Or something similar? |
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 2, 2016 17:35:56 GMT
There are two Twitter Threads. Discussion and Archive. Discussion is where all derailing happens and to tell the truth, while we might try our best, no one knows when will spoiler slip in. Archive is for tweets alone, so if you fear those accidental spoilers, maybe this is the best version for you (well, at least when marketing starts, for now everything is really calm). Yes, I saw that. I like being able to discuss the Tweets, though. I might not participate very often, but I like having the option, and seeing what other people have to say. I really liked how, in BSN Prime, the Twitter thread was in the non-spoiler section of the forum. I'm not saying we should definitely emulate that... but maybe consider it? Or something similar? Hmm, that's a good argument. I'm starting to think having separate spoiler/non-spoiler boards may be the best way to go. Put the Twitter Threads in the Non-Spoiler Boards which did work well enough on the old boards... |
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Post by CrutchCricket on Aug 2, 2016 18:25:30 GMT
I would recommend a Spoiler subsection in whatever board it pertains to for games going forward (I doubt existing games require it). After a set period the spoiler section can be merged into the larger sub-board.
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Post by The Elder King on Aug 2, 2016 18:28:30 GMT
I'd agree with Crutch's proposal.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Aug 2, 2016 23:23:04 GMT
I'd agree with Crutch's proposal. As do I. I think any post should herald spoilers, as a matter of courtesy (not everyone that will visit here plays the moment a game is available) but maybe - as a suggestion - Non Spoiler forums could last 6 months after the release of the final story DLC for a given game? That way, main game has been out at least 1 year (probably closer to 18 months). |
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Post by Kaibe on Aug 4, 2016 15:28:17 GMT
There should be a spoiler and non spoiler section once the game releases. When there are spoilers there should be a warning and they (the spoilers) shouldn't be in the title.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 4, 2016 17:08:00 GMT
The Twitter Archive will likely be spoiler free (unless there's some controversy) because that has no chat.
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