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Post by Doctor Fumbles on May 4, 2017 20:19:20 GMT
ME1 is the best game of the series, why on earth would I stop praising it? I am not saying it is bad per say. It's not the best of the Trilogy though. ME3 still is for me even with the last ten minutes.
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Post by cypherj on May 4, 2017 20:22:37 GMT
I didn't think ME1 characters were that bad. They not only introduced you to themselves, but to the their races. I thought the while Liara mind melding things was interesting after our meetings. The fact that she was older than Shepard would probably ever be, but was still in essence a teen for the most part. Tali being looked at like a vagrant, her race or gypsies.
I was also invested in the characters because the way they were introduced. Ashley comes running out, last person defending her base, Garrus was the C-Sec officer investigating Saren, Tali had the evidence to expose him. Liara was needed for her expertise on Protheans, and you had to rescue her. They were all woven into the story given some importance.
That was my main issue with ME2. You just got grocery lists, aside from needing Mordin to counter the seeker swarms, the rest were just go get this person. Who are these people, and what makes them better than anyone else I would get.
ME:1 was great in how it introduced you to everything. From the first moment when you walk through the Normandy to the bridge with the theme playing, and go through the relay for the first. Your crew running to the windows because they're as excited to see the Citadel for the forst time as your are. What a Spectre is, and your ceremony becoming one. It introduced you to all the races, and Sovereign introduced the reapers to the Milky Way in what is still probably my favorite dialogue exchange in the series.
The game may have flaws, but it was near flawless in the way it introduced you to the ME universe and immersed you in it, and that's probably why a lot of people like it so much.
Not to mention is had decisions that mattered, and best antagonist in the series. Saren, an agent of the enemy that was actively opposing you in the field, and was also very well written to boot.
If your primary focus in a game in the combat system, well yeah, you may not like ME1. But that's low on the list for me. I think that the combat system in ME:A is fun, but it wasn't enough to make me want to play through it again, because the rest was just meh to me.
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Post by erikson on May 4, 2017 20:23:19 GMT
And your a unstable loony tune who can't admit that other people have different opinions than you. I have an English degree and worked on a literary magazine, what are your qualifications? I'll have to report you for attacking me like that. Try not to let yourself be so easily triggered. Are the animations better in ME:A? No. Story? Nope. Characters? Nope. Sound/Music - Hell no. Pew Pew Bang Bang? Yep. 1/5 versus a ten year old game is pretty bad. That's why it's on the verge of a 69% metacritic score. Right up there with Bioware's Sonic. If you were to compare Andromeda vs it's current peers and ME1 versus it's peers when it came out, in comparison - Andromeda is a fail on every front. Every current AAA comparable trounces Andromeda. IMO of course. Have a nice day! I'll try when I am no long arguing with a baby escaped from his pram. Are the animations better in MEA? Nope Story: debatable, but I'd give the edge to ME1 Characters: as written in the game? much better in MEA Sound/Music: don't care, can barely remember a stitch of sound from the trilogy, just not my thing Pew Pew Bag Bang? Nope, is better thajn DAO's stiff gameplay, but marginally so. So that is a tie, at 2-2, and one abstention because I don't give a shit. See how subjective this stuff is?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 20:23:49 GMT
The characters in ME1 are real not exaggerated comic book, one liner spewing, attempting meme machine, childs who need Shepard/Ryder to solve all their mundane/idiotic/daddy issues. And not a spandex outfit to be seen, either! Aye, but ME1 is still responsible for the birth of the ubiquitous wedgie.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on May 4, 2017 20:25:29 GMT
And not a spandex outfit to be seen, either! Aye, but ME1 is still responsible for the birth of the ubiquitous wedgie. I just imagined all the Marvel characters in their original spandex now. /shudder Thank you for that.!
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 4, 2017 20:28:43 GMT
They're boring to you because they act like adults with responsibilities and duties and their character traits and growth are nuanced and you can't grasp that. You want garbage Joss Whedon cartoon cartoons who act like children, act randomly for the lols and have obvious, simple character traits that can be memed and drawn into fanart. Admit it. Your avatar is Merrill for Christ's sake, one of the most horribly, infanile, stupid, written characters BioWare has ever written. By the end of ME1 I felt like I had assembled a close knit crew and I certainly liked Tali and Garrus and found them interesting and unique characters. So none of this "people only liked them because of ME2" bollocks. These characters (Ashley, DeadKaidan, Liara, Tali, Wrex and Garrus) were one of the reasons I anticipated ME2. Buddy you just said it best and a reason i can't stand MEA. The Joss Whedon cartoonish people doing things for lols annoys me. I really want them to step away from it and go for a more darker and mature style. Like found in the original ME or Witcher 3. The cringe worthy writing in MEA cuts to the bone for me as a Mass Effect huge fan. Joss Whedon got it right for Firefly and Serenity. It worked for the series and the movie. The Reapers weren't beat with Joss Whedon-type characters. They knew the stakes, all of the baggage their races carries in the universe, and there had to be an endgame. Firefly is a lot like Andromeda without any of the polish. None. Cancelled sitcom quality style writing. It's more evident than ever in my second full playthrough. Some parts are just great and then it's followed up by an hour-long fest of combat glitches and beginning to loathe Soduko.
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Post by suikoden on May 4, 2017 20:28:57 GMT
I'll have to report you for attacking me like that. Try not to let yourself be so easily triggered. Are the animations better in ME:A? No. Story? Nope. Characters? Nope. Sound/Music - Hell no. Pew Pew Bang Bang? Yep. 1/5 versus a ten year old game is pretty bad. That's why it's on the verge of a 69% metacritic score. Right up there with Bioware's Sonic. If you were to compare Andromeda vs it's current peers and ME1 versus it's peers when it came out, in comparison - Andromeda is a fail on every front. Every current AAA comparable trounces Andromeda. IMO of course. Have a nice day! I'll try when I am no long arguing with a baby escaped from his pram. Are the animations better in MEA? Nope Story: debatable, but I'd give the edge to ME1 Characters: as written in the game? much better in MEA Sound/Music: don't care, can barely remember a stitch of sound from the trilogy, just not my thing Pew Pew Bag Bang? Nope, is better thajn DAO's stiff gameplay, but marginally so. So that is a tie, at 2-2, and one abstention because I don't give a shit. See how subjective this stuff is? Id put Origins gameplay - it's everything, waaay above Andromeda if we're talking the PC version with the enhances tactical zoom. Andromeda only exists because EA looked at the franchise and realised "hey, there's more money here to be made! Let's make another one! Only, give it to the C team because people will buy this shit regardless just like with DA2."
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Post by linksocarina on May 4, 2017 20:29:01 GMT
The reason it deserves praise is because it was a game changer for rpgs, the use of the dialogue wheel, the voiced protagonist, the character interaction and use of a new world system in a Sci fi setting...it was rightfully called the star wars of video games. The trilogy on a whole is on that level as obe of the most important trilogies in video games, warts and all.
It deserves praise, despite the games shortcomings. You are right it may not have aged well, but it's still important as a game. Andromeda I am struggling to see such importance in the grand scheme of things.
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Post by stinker666 on May 4, 2017 20:31:25 GMT
Let me get this straight: Characters > Story > Sound > Gameplay > Graphics. That's why ME2 is my favortite (also it's the only game where melee dosen't suck) and ME3 is great until the last 3/4 of the story. In case of ME1 though: The gameplay is just that awful (sluggish, most enemy types feel the same, shoot them until they vaporize) and some cutsceenes are pretty cringy that it almost over shadows the good aspect of the game.
And with MEA: Mediocre story and characters (apart from Suvi, she's awesome) and great gameplay, but overall it will defently mot make me play it a dozen times. The problem with MEA is this literally EVERYTHING prepares for a sequal or DLC in the most obvious ways possible. They just left almost everything open.
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Post by erikson on May 4, 2017 20:31:56 GMT
I'll try when I am no long arguing with a baby escaped from his pram. Are the animations better in MEA? Nope Story: debatable, but I'd give the edge to ME1 Characters: as written in the game? much better in MEA Sound/Music: don't care, can barely remember a stitch of sound from the trilogy, just not my thing Pew Pew Bag Bang? Nope, is better thajn DAO's stiff gameplay, but marginally so. So that is a tie, at 2-2, and one abstention because I don't give a shit. See how subjective this stuff is? Id put Origins gameplay - it's everything, waaay above Andromeda if we're talking the PC version with the enhances tactical zoom. Andromeda only exists because EA looked at the franchise and realised "hey, there's more money here to be made! Let's make another one! Only, give it to the C team because people will buy this shit regardless just like with DA2." pssst...I liike DA2 more than DAO. There is no wrong way to have fun, if you like something I don't, or vice versa, it isn't because one of us is wrong.
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Post by decafhigh on May 4, 2017 20:32:49 GMT
Id put Origins gameplay - it's everything, waaay above Andromeda if we're talking the PC version with the enhances tactical zoom. Andromeda only exists because EA looked at the franchise and realised "hey, there's more money here to be made! Let's make another one! Only, give it to the C team because people will buy this shit regardless just like with DA2." I'd agree, that is kinda the feeling I got as well. It is a very subjective thing but I just don't get the feeling they really loved this game while they were making it. That feeling pours through in ME1. Maybe it is just all the bugs and glitchiness, maybe it the the weak and often silly writing, I dunno. I just don't get that "we put everything we had into this" feel from the game.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 4, 2017 20:32:50 GMT
The reason it deserves praise is because it was a game changer for rpgs, the use of the dialogue wheel, the voiced protagonist, the character interaction and use of a new world system in a Sci fi setting...it was rightfully called the star wars of video games. The trilogy on a whole is on that level as obe of the most important trilogies in video games, warts and all. It deserves praise, despite the games shortcomings. You are right it may not have aged well, but it's still important as a game. Andromeda I am struggling to see such importance in the grand scheme of things. YES! ABSOLUTELY!
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Post by Iakus on May 4, 2017 20:33:08 GMT
The reason it deserves praise is because it was a game changer for rpgs, the use of the dialogue wheel, the voiced protagonist, the character interaction and use of a new world system in a Sci fi setting...it was rightfully called the star wars of video games. The trilogy on a whole is on that level as obe of the most important trilogies in video games, warts and all. It deserves praise, despite the games shortcomings. You are right it may not have aged well, but it's still important as a game. Andromeda I am struggling to see such importance in the grand scheme of things. That was beautiful
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Post by Sanunes on May 4, 2017 20:36:00 GMT
I think each game of the franchise including Andromeda have aspects that can be praised. I don't think any of them are perfect and each have flaws. I think the biggest thing that Mass Effect 1 has going for it that it was first in a completely new universe, everything was new and had nothing to compare it too.
I understand why some people do like Mass Effect 1, but I do agree with what you are saying about the game as well and at the same time I understand what people are saying about the other Mass Effect games as well.
The one thing I really want BioWare to go back and learn from the first game is that more isn't always better. Mass Effect 1 was very economical as a game, I can play the game and beat it in under four hours because there just isn't the content there that the other games have and that can be a good thing when you don't have to stretch other budgets out to fill that gap such as animations and scripting, for I think the biggest problem with Andromeda is the opposite of that where they were trying to make too much of a game and everything just wound up being spread thin.
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Post by stinker666 on May 4, 2017 20:39:16 GMT
That was my main issue with ME2. You just got grocery lists, aside from needing Mordin to counter the seeker swarms, the rest were just go get this person. Who are these people, and what makes them better than anyone else I would get. A perfect Krogan defenetly has it's reason. An insane biotic killer? Yeah I get what you mean there, but there Characters where realy engaging never the less, and I acutally cared about them. I almost cried when Tali died during my first PT of the Suicide Mission. Apart from Wrex, Garrus and Liara I didn't care much about other characters in ME1 until they got fleshed out in 2 and 3. Apart from Ashley and Kaiden, but I never gave 2 craps about human crew mates in ME. Only Miranda, because I f*cking hate that b*tch!
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Post by AnDromedary on May 4, 2017 20:39:49 GMT
I WILL NEVER STOP, YOU HEAR ME, NEVER!!!!
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So, a lot has been said about the merits of ME1 in this thread already. It did some things well, other things it didn't do as well as one sequel or another (yes, including ME:A). But here is the ultimate reason why for me, ME1 is the best in the series by far:
ME1 created a beautiful new universe.
while all other ME games afterwards seemed to try to tare it down again. That's why ME1 will always have a special place.
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Post by Cyonan on May 4, 2017 20:41:29 GMT
Mass Effect 1 gets a lot of praise because for 2007 it was groundbreaking in a lot of ways and set the new standard in the genre. The things that it does well, it does so well that we tend to forgive it for its shortcomings. Andromeda on the other hand feels like it's trying to match up to the new standard that has since been set by The Witcher 3 and failed to reach it. It's not a bad game, but it not a game changer for the RPG genre either.
I can go on about how in Mass Effect 1 most of the characters feel more like information kiosks for their respective races rather than actual characters or how the whole conduit story arc makes absolutely no sense, but the reality is that despite all of that the game still pulled many of us into the universe and kept us around for this long.
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Post by babe145869 on May 4, 2017 20:45:34 GMT
ME1 isn't my fav in the trilogy, but there were a few things I like better from ME1 than ME:A.
Maybe I've just played ME1 so many times that I became one with the Mako's lack of smooth control, so I knew how to steer with ease on most planets. It could have much more easily climbed basicly every mountain in ME:A, the Nonad with it's few extra buttons to control it...not so much.
The way you mark the map on ME1, so 1 location is marked, not every point a quest needs you to go, on a planet made much more since, considering if you click on any quest location in ME:A, it tells you what quest it is so there is little mystery on what you marked. I wish I could remove the worthless bar on the top of the screen in ME:A. If the developers thought the screen was to crowded to use a mini-map, then the hint system in ME2 would have been just as good as long as only 1 point on the map was marked at a time.
NO SAM IN ME1
Yes the graphics were worse in '07 and controls were less smooth, but the story was more imersive. Although there were some times that the dialogue was the same, it's always the same in ME:A.
The only thing that I truly hate in ME1 is having to choose my sqadmates, even when I'm only undocking to turn in a fetch quest or shop. I know there will be no combat except on the quests I finished before I left the citadel for the 1st time. (and the final mission to kill Sarian) At least that was finally changed in ME3.
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Post by linksocarina on May 4, 2017 20:46:27 GMT
The reason it deserves praise is because it was a game changer for rpgs, the use of the dialogue wheel, the voiced protagonist, the character interaction and use of a new world system in a Sci fi setting...it was rightfully called the star wars of video games. The trilogy on a whole is on that level as obe of the most important trilogies in video games, warts and all. It deserves praise, despite the games shortcomings. You are right it may not have aged well, but it's still important as a game. Andromeda I am struggling to see such importance in the grand scheme of things. That was beautiful I always found Deus Ex to be overrated, but the first one was pretty good. That said, it's not really memorable in the same way as Mass Effect was, id argue. Especially in the grand scheme of things when considering the mainstream success of Mass Effect and the mechanics used in other RPGs.
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Post by malanek on May 4, 2017 20:49:28 GMT
I would have only given ME1 a 6 or 7 out of 10 at the time. Short game but with an interesting story and world, immersive cutscenes, crappy dialogue wheel, sub par combat, sub par vehicle gameplay, a lot of immersion breaking reused assets, and lots of padding I ignored. I wasn't hyped for ME2 at all, only picked it up given the reviews. The improvements they made blew me away.
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Post by stinker666 on May 4, 2017 20:51:36 GMT
Id put Origins gameplay - it's everything, waaay above Andromeda if we're talking the PC version with the enhances tactical zoom. Andromeda only exists because EA looked at the franchise and realised "hey, there's more money here to be made! Let's make another one! Only, give it to the C team because people will buy this shit regardless just like with DA2." I'd agree, that is kinda the feeling I got as well. It is a very subjective thing but I just don't get the feeling they really loved this game while they were making it. That feeling pours through in ME1. Maybe it is just all the bugs and glitchiness, maybe it the the weak and often silly writing, I dunno. I just don't get that "we put everything we had into this" feel from the game. Agreed MEA lacks the passion, that 1 and 2 had. 3 was already loosing some of it, but it had moments that where full of it (the genophage, the Quarians/Geth). But for me from the moment the endgame begins (attack on Cerberus base) all that when out the window. That game just felt meh, then. But honestly it's exactly what I expected from MEA (well actually the combat turned out way better then I expected). It's a money machine. People who thought the game coud be on par with the original trilogy are simply navie.
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Post by linksocarina on May 4, 2017 20:52:34 GMT
I would have only given ME1 a 6 or 7 out of 10 at the time. Short game but with an interesting story and world, immersive cutscenes, crappy dialogue wheel, sub par combat, sub par vehicle gameplay, a lot of immersion breaking reused assets, and lots of padding I ignored. I wasn't hyped for ME2 at all, only picked it up given the reviews. The improvements they made blew me away. That kind of is the story for a lot of people, I suspect. The first game was good, had really good ideas...but the second game was eye opening in what BioWare can do with the series, and this story line. I know it was for me, I played Mass Effect twice before I picked up Mass Effect 2...then I played it six more times for various playthroughs just to see what happens in Mass Effect 2 and later Mass Effect 3. I have done four trilogy breakthroughs since.
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Mass Effect 1 gets a lot of praise because for 2007 it was groundbreaking in a lot of ways and set the new standard in the genre. The things that it does well, it does so well that we tend to forgive it for its shortcomings. Andromeda on the other hand feels like it's trying to match up to the new standard that has since been set by The Witcher 3 and failed to reach it. It's not a bad game, but it not a game changer for the RPG genre either. I can go on about how in Mass Effect 1 most of the characters feel more like information kiosks for their respective races rather than actual characters or how the whole conduit story arc makes absolutely no sense, but the reality is that despite all of that the game still pulled many of us into the universe and kept us around for this long. W3 vs Andromeda is an example of a trade off of the resource allocation rather than one stretching out to close the gap. W3 allocated resources towards cinematic fidelity and interactions with the environment, where BioWare allocated the resources towards preserving playstyle diversity, player character customization, and preserving the party feel, and party interaction saturation. the very attempt to have realistic, but less flexible customization, was an effort to improve cinematic fidelity, while preserving players ability to create their character, not pick up the only doll available. Just like NWN1 stumbled at transition to 3D, ME:A is stumbling in trying to compromise. But NWN1 grew into better games graphically, so will the animation challenges vs customization challenges will eventually get refined. but! until CDPR or someone else delivers a game with a similar party and the main character customization features, while maintaining the high cinematic fidelity of the animations and a party play and commentRy staurTion interesting for any type of the main character and party composition at any given period in the game, while maintaining environment interactions on the higher writing investment, and provides upgraded gameplay, it is an example of a trade off, not one product that is fully superior to another. Until there is a game that is truly like Mary Poppins, perfect in every possible way, it is always a trade off, and it is up to an individual player to pick what matters and what appeals the most.
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Post by Cyberstrike on May 4, 2017 20:56:34 GMT
People need to stop denying ME1....Yeah Take That!!!!.😆 Next your gonna tell me you loved MEA Seriously I love MEA and it's everything I wished ME1 was in retrospect.
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Post by cypherj on May 4, 2017 20:59:05 GMT
That was my main issue with ME2. You just got grocery lists, aside from needing Mordin to counter the seeker swarms, the rest were just go get this person. Who are these people, and what makes them better than anyone else I would get. A perfect Krogan defenetly has it's reason. An insane biotic killer? Yeah I get what you mean there, but there Characters where realy engaging never the less, and I acutally cared about them. I almost cried when Tali died during my first PT of the Suicide Mission. Apart from Wrex, Garrus and Liara I didn't care much about other characters in ME1 until they got fleshed out in 2 and 3. Apart from Ashley and Kaiden, but I never gave 2 craps about human crew mates in ME. Only Miranda, because I f*cking hate that b*tch! But you didn't go there for the perfect Krogan, you went there for Okeer. He was the one on the list.
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