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Post by The Elder King on Dec 20, 2020 19:36:54 GMT
I don't believe you'll find what you're looking for in that far off a future, with nothing to build on. You'd have better luck with a new IP altogether. I always said MEA would have been better received if it was a new IP, and didn't have "Mass Effect" in the title. I don’t doubt that this would’ve been the case...but I don’t think it’d have been received well, in any case, given the state of the game at release. I think the situation of Andromeda is similar enough to DA2, in the sense that the actual game was developed in a short aumont of time (given that the original idea was a NMS-like game that was eventually scrapped, but it was far in development), with the difference that with Andromeda the fault was fully on Bioware’s side. I do wonder if some of the things in the game that resemble ME were due the short aumont of time to develop the story/plot and the game, or not.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 20, 2020 10:27:37 GMT
After more then a week from the teaser, I don't understand why so many people are convinced of the MW scenario right or shortly after ME3. Unless one doesn't go in any kind of forum or social media, Liara is clearly older. We can debate how long, sure, but Bioware intentionally placed wrinkle and lines on her face to show a passage of time. We can debate if other things in the teaser where placed as a memento of the trilogy, instead of purposefully (like the N7 piece), but unless Bioware wanted to troll people with Liara, it's clear she's older.
Now, I don't think this necessarily means we'd get a game in Andromeda, only with Liara. The scene is clearly set in the MW. Liara's age makes it possible that Liara could theorically depart to Andromeda post-ME3, but the age think still doesn't add up perfectly.
The fact that one of the original, longterm goal, for the Initiative was to establish a connection between the two galaxies, makes me think they might pull something to connect the two. But it's just a theory.
What I'd say is this, though: so far, even if I'm not ruling out any scenario, Ryder has more chances of getting back as the PC then Shepard (if the latter would be back, I think they'll place something for signaling this in the LE), even if a new PC is also quite possible, depending on the plot. But the teaser did give, at first look, the impression of a sequel to ME3 with possibly Shepard. Disappointment will clearly rise if that's not the case, but even more so if their idea of connecting the two galaxies and plots is to just bring Liara in the mix.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 17, 2020 19:36:46 GMT
Lol, I’m quite over that age. I’m curious to see how they’d tackle characters’ appearance from game to game, both of Shepard (I also *guess* they’d go for a FemShep canon appearance through the three games) and other NPCs. And while it wouldn’t likely affect my Virmire choice, I wonder if they’d make Ashley in ME3 more similar to the first two games. I’m not holding out hope for an extended CC, in any case. I much prefer to be pleasantly surprised then disappointed at release. Whatever they do (or don't do), it will piss off someone somewhere. That’s somehow likely.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 17, 2020 18:50:40 GMT
Jon Renish @jonrenishProject Week is more than half over and I'm blown away by how amazing the stuff people have been working on is. Such a great way to lead into the holidays. Hadn't heard that one in a while. Is that related to DA, or something else?
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 17, 2020 18:45:34 GMT
I’m curious, what would that be? I can't tell you, unless you're 18+ Lol, I’m quite over that age. I’m curious to see how they’d tackle characters’ appearance from game to game, both of Shepard (I also *guess* they’d go for a FemShep canon appearance through the three games) and other NPCs. And while it wouldn’t likely affect my Virmire choice, I wonder if they’d make Ashley in ME3 more similar to the first two games. I’m not holding out hope for an extended CC, in any case. I much prefer to be pleasantly surprised then disappointed at release.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 17, 2020 13:28:00 GMT
I don’t see why there’d be a problem if not wanting to buy the LE. Good. Because the best thing about the LE won't even be the game. I’m curious, what would that be?
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 17, 2020 11:51:59 GMT
Can I say no, without sounding too negative? I don’t see why there’d be a problem if not wanting to buy the LE.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 17, 2020 11:49:11 GMT
This is why I favor new characters each game. Too much baggage. Shepard coming back means upwards of two dozen characters that HAVE to return as well. Because they can be Shepard's friend/sidekick/lover. It wouldn't be hard to explain why some would not show up in another game. With the crew. it wouldn't be hard to bring them back. Chakwas, Adams, Ken Gabby, Traynor, Cortez, Moreau, and even Felicia Hannigan, formerly know as Kelly Chambers, could return to the ship. Of course I want to have Rupert Gardner to return. With the squadmates, it wouldn't be too hard to have them back. With destroy, the platform is no longer around leaving an empty space on the roster. Kasumi won't return because she wants nothing more to do with big missions. Taylor won't return because he wants to be a better father than his clown of a father. Unfortunately Zaeed won't return. (RIP Robin Sachs) Legion, Thane and Mordin obviously won't return. Grunt would likely return to Tuchnaka to rebuild Aralakh co. Wrex would likely stay on Tuchanka to help rebuild his planet. Samara would likely want to spend the rest of her life with her daughter and help rebuild Thessia. Miranda and Jack could return though I wouldn't be surprised if Jack wanted to stay with her students. James might not return because he may have been assigned to another unit or wanted to help rebuild the N7 program, then start training to be an N graduate. The squad would/could be Miranda, t'soni, Tali, Garrus. I left out A/K since they're spectres. Would the council have them do spectre stuff or would they remain with Shepard? And finally Javik the great. Would he return? I would like him to , but would he? Grunt and Wrex could have cameos. Even be part of a mission that has them join Shepard to deal with a group of Krogan who want to overthrow Wrex. If some characters return from a previous game in the series, I don’t have a problem. I’d ask though, putting aside the specific problems of NME’s timeline, are you fine with all characters back, but in different roles and capacity? Can you give an example of what role the character might have that would be different from what they had previously? I meant it roles as squadmates, important NPCs, or cameos.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 16, 2020 14:54:54 GMT
I do think there are more hurdles in making the story not feel like a letdown or subpar experience compared to the Reapers saga The Reaper saga was terrible. It was one game about finding out about them, one game about their scheming and the one game that was supposed to be about them, was actually about Cerberus. The post Reaper war setting is far more interesting, in terms of conflict, with factions you can actual fight. There are certainly people that didn’t like or hated previous companions in DA, and for this reason they don’t want them back. But, since the time the sequels of DAO started to be developed and announced online, there’s large part of players that did like or love the companions And are fine and don’t want them back. Varric is an example of this, as many like him but don’t want him back as a companion. I’d say, personally, that a lot of people might view returning companions differently in the two series due to the protagonist situation. Having a different protagonist makes it easier to not want them back, whether you like them or not. I don't see people caring for DA companions. While outside of the specific fandoms, there's still talk of ME, in contrast, DA talk dies. Like, you can try to start it, but you're not getting traction. There' no attachment to DA, not even as a setting. Again, not counting the targeted fandoms. I think that for a lot of casual fans, your scenario won’t be as interesting. I fear we may never know, though. The attachment is much higher and present for companions in ME for the very fact that players spend more time and games with them (at least, for a good part of players). That doesn’t mean that the companions aren’t liked. And sometimes people get attached to companions regardless of how well they’re written or not. Tali was basically a walking codex in ME and there were a lot of people campaigning for her to be a romance. I don’t think there’s much different in attachment to the setting, in general, between ME and DA. What a lot of people outside of the fandom are attached to is the Shepard’s trilogy, as evidenced by the teaser. Had the teaser clearly represented the MW but with a clear indication of a new protagonist, I don’t think the hype would’ve been as high.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 16, 2020 14:46:54 GMT
are you fine with all characters back, but in different roles and capacity? You mean ME3 again? No. We already got ME3 and we know exactly which characters would be in reduced capacity. So no. Is it unreasonable? Maybe so. I thought so...although the same logic was applied to ME2. We might’ve not got some interesting squad mates (or all of them), if they decided to bring back the old squad in full. I was thinking more of a general rule, not necessarily as in ME3. I didn’t like how it was handled, but, for example, if we’d have got 3-4 companions from ME2 in the squad, I wouldn’t have minded, considering that companions like Mordin, Legion, and Thane, for one reason or another, made sense that they weren’t companions (although for the first two I’d argue having them as temporary ones would’ve worked). I do think it’s impossible, in a trilogy of games like ME, to bring back each squadmate in the same role, unless you’d stick with the originals for the whole trilogy. That doesn’t mean that what happened in ME3 was fair, but from your logic and ME3 there are options, I think. Even if NME would be a new chapter of Shepard’s saga (which it’s something you wamt, right?) we won’t get the full cast of companions back. There are simply too many of them. That’s a point where a new protagonist in each game wins over a returning one, as it causes far less problems not bringing former companions back.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 16, 2020 14:05:26 GMT
Only Ryder, primarily due to player feedback about how - generally - most players didn't feel they got to truly flesh out the character. That, and the canon identity of the MC felt somewhat too relaxed for a lot of players I'll say it again, Ryder wasn't the problem, or at least, the idea of Ryder. The writing let Ryder down. My point about Shepard is that his storyline is effectively finished. You know. I recall an interview with a Bioware panel, where Mac Walters was asked, post ME3, about the old cast returning. And Mac said that was attachment and it was unhealthy, we should all move on and that the crew's stories were over. So here's Liara ... It's fake. The idea that their storyline is "finished" is fake. At any point in time, Bioware can decide to make a story and say "We know we said their story is over, but [X] is back". I'm sorry to tell you, but anyone's story is over, until it isn't. It's an excuse to either bring or not bring characters back for X amount of time. Maybe it'd be more effective if I asked a rhetorical. Lets say Andromeda never released. Yes, you still have BioWare dealing with the fallout of the ME3 ending, but in your own opinion, what should they have done with the characters and the universe itself? Full on reboot? Continuation after ME3? If you do a reboot, you're probably looking at an entirely new character. If you continue onwards, then you still have to deal with the scars left behind by the ending. I'd pick the ending which leaves for the most interesting setting to continue from and I'd have everyone who can be alive, be alive, because of their unfulfilled potential. As I've said, High EMS Destroy is a very compelling time for turmoil, political intrigue, backstabbing and power grabs. Everything, at any minute, can turn on a dime. And then you have the characters trying to find some semblance of peace in a post destroy hellhole of a galaxy. It's not sunshine and rainbows, just because the Reapers are gone. I'm just not seeing where you want this series to go. I look at a lot fan comments in the Dragon Age 4 threads, and majority opinion suggests that they don't want most - if any - of our prior companions to return. Hell, look at the feedback of Varric voicing the recent trailer. Some are dreading his return. And when it comes to main protagonists, them constantly changing with each installment hasn't stopped them from being successful (I KNOW you don't want to talk about the topic of DA:I sales success, just making it a point). Yeah. The DA squadmates are shit. Nobody wants them back. I get that, too. And we can't discuss success, without discussing sales, but most importantly, revenue. If we disregard revenue, Anthem is Bioware's second most successful game ever. And it will probably overtake DA:I, soon. But I don't think you'll hear about it, even in a tweet by Christian, at this point. I’d say this: even if I do agree that a decent writer can definitely come up with a new story for Shepard and company, if the former is alive, I do think there are more hurdles in making the story not feel like a letdown or subpar experience compared to the Reapers saga. Not saying it’s impossible (and the trilogy isn’t perfect, so there are definitely rooms to improvments), but there are difficulties. There are certainly people that didn’t like or hated previous companions in DA, and for this reason they don’t want them back. But, since the time the sequels of DAO started to be developed and announced online, there’s large part of players that did like or love the companions And are fine and don’t want them back. Varric is an example of this, as many like him but don’t want him back as a companion. I’d say, personally, that a lot of people might view returning companions differently in the two series due to the protagonist situation. Having a different protagonist makes it easier to not want them back, whether you like them or not.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 16, 2020 13:54:42 GMT
Do you mean if Shepard is the protagonist, correct? When I say everyone, I mean everyone. If Liara is back, Shepard should be back and everyone else that can be alive should be back. Eh, I disagree with that. I don’t think that returning characters can’t happen if only some return. That, as a general rule, not specific to ME. I do understand your stance on this, but I view it differently. If some characters return from a previous game in the series, I don’t have a problem. I’d ask though, putting aside the specific problems of NME’s timeline, are you fine with all characters back, but in different roles and capacity?
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 16, 2020 5:18:20 GMT
For one thing, a LOT of players would be p*ssed if players have to be Shepard and the only returning companion is Liara... If they're bringing Liara back, they should bring everyone back. Do you mean if Shepard is the protagonist, correct? I’d agree with that. It’s not going to end well if we’ll get Shepard back with only Liara. With Ryder/a new protagonist, given that we have those three options for PC at this point, I don’t think it’s necessary...although I wouldn’t go for Liara, alone.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 15, 2020 15:35:54 GMT
Also, I am a ME fan that, to this day, haven’t played Andromeda with the exception of the free trial. I’d be interested in a ME game with a new protagonist, if it’s well made and polished. I don’t think Shepard is needed for a ME game to be successful...although if they find a reasonable reason to bring back Shepard, I’m not against a new game with him. Or Ryder, for the matter. The actual quality of the game is what it’s more important to me (and the fact that it’s not an Anthem-based game), although it’s undeniable, at least to me, that hype around the teaser is for a great part due Liara’s presence and the assumption for many that Shep will be back. I don't understand the point of introducing another character, when there is that much of a demand for either Shepard, especially Shepard, or Ryder. Like, they could go the DA route and introduce a new protagonist each time, but I don't think it's working out for them that well. The promise of Liara and possibly Shepard returning is doing wonders for ME. Look at the interest behind the DA teaser and the ME teaser. And it's true, there's nothing that the DA teaser could have shown that would have matched the hype. That's not a plus. It just goes to show that there is no hype going for this game/franchise. Which shows a problem with the approach Bioware gave to these games. I don’t think the reason behind DA not doing well as much to do with a new protagonist and new characters (you can argue previous ones are better then new ones, but that’d a problem with the writing team, which, by this logic, could also ruin older ones). I do understand your opinion on new vs new protagonist and crew, and there are certainly merits with returning ones, expecially in regards of ME. All I’m saying is that a new protagonist or crew don’t mean the game will necessarily be bad or not feel like a ME game. Regardless of those, the main issue is the devs making a good, polished games. A game with Shep and old crew will still be bad and receive a bad reception if it’ll be released in a state as Andromeda was.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 15, 2020 14:34:21 GMT
I don’t think Shepard is needed for a ME game to be successful...although if they find a reasonable reason to bring back Shepard, I’m not against a new game with him. It wouldn't be hard to have Shepard return for another game. Going by the teaser, it looks like Bioware chose red to be canon. Here's one way Shepard can return. I even posted a possible trailer Bioware could use. I'm no fan of Ryder, but if he/she were to return, it could be about him/her traveling to another cluster seeking help to deal with the kett. The kett remain a threat even though Meridian is in the hands of the Initiative. The problem isn’t the (likely?) canonization. It’s the fact that Liara appears much older. I don’t think she’d appear that old in Shepard’s timeline. There are ways to make a story work for either former protagonists, true. I’m simply open to all possibilities, provided that they’re well written and worked on.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 15, 2020 14:31:39 GMT
I'd be personally hoping for something more than Liara, for a second time, outside of the trilogy, to be honest. I mean, basically, their solution to Andromeda was "up the Liara content" for the next game. And if this fails, maybe we can hope for even more Liara in the next game. And if that fails, maybe we can get an entire game about Liara. And I get that Liara is popular and a lot of people liked her, she got like 30% of all romances, right? But there was more to ME than just Liara. Like the two laughing biotics in my avatar. Or a redheaded secretary/psychologist we had on board for all of 1 game, for my boy, Hanako Ikezawa . And Suvi, too. I do agree with that sentiment, and if Liara is the only thing they’d basically bring in from the trilogy, I’m going to criticize it. Especially if they’ll go through a canonize path, because there’s at least another character they could bring back from the trilogy, in the case of hundreds of years of passing. But it doesn’t mean the game will necessarily be bad or not feel like a ME game. Likewise, even if they’d bring back Shepard and crew, the game could be great, good, decent, bad or horrible. Their presence isn’t a guarantee of a good game. Now, we can discuss that, if the NME has basically only Liara in it from the trilogy, that the teaser clearly draw people to assume otherwise, especially with the N7 piece, but that’s another argument. I already said somewhere that if this is the case, the reaction won’t be pretty. I get the frustration about Liara, even if I like her as a character. I have quite a few characters that I liked more then her, one included in your avatar. I can also, though, understand why they used her to tease the game. She’s among the top recognizable characters in the franchise, as well as popular, and if they’re truly going the centuries forward route, the clear choice to place in this kind of teaser, since she’s more popular then Grunt. The teaser was clearly made with the intention of hyping up the trilogy fans, and even if they might not like Liara, her presence along the N7 piece was obviously going to excite people. I’m, willing to wait and see what the game will be about. I think it’s fair, and better then having overly optimistic views. Expecting the worst is also good to not be disappointed later on, but the teaser had nothing to make me fear the worst.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 15, 2020 13:42:40 GMT
Also, I am a ME fan that, to this day, haven’t played Andromeda with the exception of the free trial. I’d be interested in a ME game with a new protagonist, if it’s well made and polished. I don’t think Shepard is needed for a ME game to be successful...although if they find a reasonable reason to bring back Shepard, I’m not against a new game with him. Or Ryder, for the matter. The actual quality of the game is what it’s more important to me (and the fact that it’s not an Anthem-based game), although it’s undeniable, at least to me, that hype around the teaser is for a great part due Liara’s presence and the assumption for many that Shep will be back.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 15, 2020 13:38:40 GMT
I don’t agree that our protagonist will necessarily be a ‘rookie’. Although unless they’ll go with Ryder or Shepard, it’s obvious that we’d get a ‘no name’ protagonist. I don’t think the game will necessarily do bad without Shepard. It depends on the quality of the game...as well as how polished it’ll be. Maybe/probably Andromeda wouldn’t have become as popular as the trilogy (which was built on three games, anyway), but the criticism and sales were greatly affected by the state of the game.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 15, 2020 9:25:48 GMT
I don’t think there are people denying that at this point the Inquisitor is unlikely to be the protagonist, but the ‘hints’, which aren’t really hints, but are basically confirmations, came up recently with the teaser, summary and maybe some concept arts.
Before, one could argue either way the direction they were going in regards of the protagonist, expecially due Tresspasser. The fact that the dlc has hints about going for a new protagonist doesn’t change the fact that it also gave hints aboitb a returning Inquisitor, as it placed him/her into a more direct path against Solas, compared to vanilla game.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 14, 2020 20:59:44 GMT
I mean, aside the Dead Reapers and Liara being older, which are enough evidence...the teaser on YouTube and Twitter is described as ‘The Next Mass Effect’ teaser trailer, and the devs are referring to it as the next game, not the remaster...with the blog also making the distinction between the two.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 14, 2020 12:24:16 GMT
I think this is way too blurry of a image to make any educated guess about who it is. Yeah, it's blurry enough that anyone can see what they want in it. True, but I don’t think SirSourpuss wanted to ‘find’ that.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 14, 2020 8:33:42 GMT
I mean, it’s entirely possible, given that they gave hints of connections between Andromeda and MW, but I wouldn’t bet on that figure being Peebee. One thing that gives merit to this theory is that the central figure is indeed the most difficult to recognize.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 14, 2020 6:38:32 GMT
So I know I said I'd be gone and here I am again, but I got something we all missed, that will make some people happy and others ... clock out early. This is me clocking out early. Congrats. That's Peebee's model from the character select screen. Yongout Wait, what’s in that pic? I can’t see it.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 13, 2020 16:31:58 GMT
I think we are going down the same path here where people are reading into what BioWare is offering and what people in BioWare is thinking is two different things. Then Bioware needs to do a better job of controlling the narrative, or it is going to spiral into another Anthem/Andromeda/ME3/[Insert Bioware Title Here] situation again. It's cool to let people speculate, not cool to play with people's expectation. Bioware has done that 5 too many times. Do we know for sure that she can’t wear an armour under her cloak? From what I see, it looks like, or hints at, her scientist outfit from ME1 with a pair of gloves for the snow. Isn't that what it looks like? Liara never wore that in a combat scenario. Sure, but they might’ve simply decided to update her outfit, or add a cloak for the snowy environment. I’m not discounting your idea about how much time passed, I just think the teaser is vague enough that, aside the fact that she’s older and time certainly passes, it’s difficult to pinpoint how many centuries passed.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 13, 2020 16:07:20 GMT
I did think Varric saying 'this is your story' resembled some GaaSy game marketing mantras I've heard in the past, but perhaps that's just paranoia. What Bioware's described in their blog posts has sounded like a traditional Dragon Age experience though so there's some hope. See, it keeps reminding me of Detroit Become Human. lol I know its not even an accurate quote, but its what keeps popping into my head.
And I am a bit curious about why they keep putting such emphasis on "We need a new hero" in the marketing. I guess to really telegraph to people that it won't be the Inky coming back? Cus to new fans, that statement doesn't really have impact. Of course the hero will be new, any hero would be new to them.
But I can't recall such emphasis being placed on the newness of previous DA heroes? Or do they always go on about how new they are and its really just me not remembering?
I don’t think The Fires Above trailer highlighted that much that the protagonist was going to be new. The announcement trailer for DA2 clearly shown a new one, and the site also highlighted how Hawke was going to be important, but I don’t think it’s the same as what happened in this teaser. To me, it’s clearly a message to the fanbase, and not so much to new players.
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