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Post by Kimberly on Jun 6, 2017 23:25:01 GMT
Happy for everyone that wanted to romance Jaal and couldn't. I can't wait to see how it goes. I'm glad they fixed the mess and hope they've learned their lesson.
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Post by Kimberly on Jun 6, 2017 23:20:03 GMT
Wow I honestly didn't think they would do it. Sometimes people can surprise you. I hope they learned their lesson here and they never have to clean up a mess like this again. I'm so happy Scott can romance Jaal now.
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Post by Kimberly on May 13, 2017 11:49:05 GMT
I kind of didn't like the other ark pathfinder theme they had going. Was it necessary for us to end up without any of the original pathfinders? They can all end up dead or replaced.
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Post by Kimberly on May 12, 2017 1:49:02 GMT
I'm on my second game romancing Liam. I have 1 planet and the end. I'm just blah. I haven't returned for a couple weeks. I played the crap out of MET. I don't think I have it in me to do more than a few games. I want to do another Jaal romance because the first one I missed a lot of banter and want to take it slow. It's the open world. I'm getting worn out on it. I want them to scale back. For me, it wouldn't upset me if they ditched it. If they keep it, they need to find a better balance.
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Post by Kimberly on May 11, 2017 16:10:45 GMT
No elder scrolls for awhile.,, boooo. Apparently they are making FO4 for virtual reality. I want at least 2 DLCs for MEA.
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Post by Kimberly on May 11, 2017 3:46:38 GMT
Well if they overcompensate like they usually do, we should have 2 gay squad members. 1 human and 1 alien. 1 of them should have ties to the plot. Edit: I don't believe it would be overcompensating, I'd love to see that.
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Post by Kimberly on May 11, 2017 3:26:42 GMT
(Holds out hope for a Fenris appearence in DA4. And a possible reunion with my Mage Ladyhawke) I mean it's probably going to be about TEVINTER and obviously feature ELVES heavily, if they don't include Fenris it'll be a shame no matter how you shake it. I don't care if he's unavailable for romance in DA4. I just want him there in Tevinter. In the underground trying to free the slaves. I know they wouldn't do it, but I would love the story about being a slave. Elven and having an uprising with Fenris. Maybe the option of joining Solas or going against him.
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Post by Kimberly on May 11, 2017 3:16:36 GMT
I love ME. I think Montreal studio bit off more than they could chew on this. I want them to continue with the franchise. They need to look at the criticism and fix it. Let the other studio continue with it. Why does everything need to be open worlds? I played Horizon Zero Dawn and I never once got bored. IMO they did it right. I felt like a chore too much of the time in MEA.
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Post by Kimberly on May 11, 2017 3:07:57 GMT
I know why couldn't Hawke bring their LI. I would have loved to see them in DAI.
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Post by Kimberly on May 11, 2017 3:05:48 GMT
I don't flirt with anyone I'm not going to romance. I hate that I have no idea, besides prior knowledge, that Gil is gay. Casual gamers would have no idea unless you flirt with him.
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Post by Kimberly on May 11, 2017 3:02:53 GMT
I have this urge to play DA2 now, cuz Fenris. He's my fav.
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Post by Kimberly on May 11, 2017 2:56:02 GMT
Ignacious. The creepy one that sends Gil a 6 page email about him. Even if he's in a relationship with Scott. He's the guy who asks if Gil is single? You can miss him easily.
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Post by Kimberly on May 11, 2017 2:39:58 GMT
I'm all for everyone getting along. Now if we could have some new Jaal stuff to talk about. Wish they'd give us an ETA on a dlc.
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Post by Kimberly on May 11, 2017 2:22:38 GMT
This is why I pointed out not to bring other arguments or discussions from other Threads into J Thread. This ^. Remember that many of in J thread don't leave it and take your word as God. Gotta be careful what is brought in This isn't the first time this has happened to me, I just thought it was over. Maybe I should trust no one ever again. Might be safer. I think get all the facts before taking sides. I really don't know what happened with MassBass. I thought he was a good guy, but apparently not.
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Post by Kimberly on May 11, 2017 2:16:56 GMT
Is this on console or pc. I have console and haven't downloaded the patch yet.
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Post by Kimberly on May 11, 2017 2:12:39 GMT
I hope all this airing of grievances can help everyone move on? Move on to happier things like salt mines and such.
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Post by Kimberly on May 11, 2017 2:01:01 GMT
I know if I'm saying anything insensitive/racist/homophobic etc. and didn't realize it, I'd want it pointed out to me. I grew up in a house with a racist father towards certain people. Me and my brothers, as we got older, refused to go out in public gathering as long as he was spewing racists comments. He pretty much keeps his mouth shut now.
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Post by Kimberly on May 11, 2017 1:44:42 GMT
I don't think making Jaal bi would ruin his character. Sure he's a flirt with the females and getting the scar would make him attractive to them. However wasn't The Iron Bull always seen as banging all the females? So Jaal could just be one of the many, many Bi characters,blah, that has more of a preference for women. I'd like to see a bi male that his first preference is men.
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Post by Kimberly on May 11, 2017 1:07:33 GMT
I hate that people don't feel welcome in the Jaal thread. Keep posting and F#%k everyone else. Block the douchebags. There's still good people there. Yah, though I admit it makes me increasingly uncomfortable to be associated with it. I can try and make it open and accepting though. I lurk a lot. Some things that have been happening, I hate seeing. I want the thread to be open to everyone. I don't want it to have a bad reputation.
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Post by Kimberly on May 11, 2017 1:04:57 GMT
Well whoever that person is....block is a wonderful feature. Unless they get kicked off the forum there isn't anything else except ignore/block.
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Post by Kimberly on May 11, 2017 1:00:00 GMT
I hate that people don't feel welcome in the Jaal thread. Keep posting and F#%k everyone else. Block the douchebags. There's still good people there.
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Post by Kimberly on May 10, 2017 20:44:02 GMT
Well I've no problem waiting as long as we get a game every other year. Also they need to review what didn't work on this game and do better. I liked this game, but multiple play throughs are not in my future. I had so many play throughs on MET.
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Post by Kimberly on May 10, 2017 3:48:27 GMT
I still feel they played the safe route and went overboard with it for MEA. I know the first ME game after the ME3 fiasco was going to take a lot of abuse, but it ended up more abused than it might have been if they had been a little more open with consequences. I loved my happy ending since it's sort of a first for me regarding my LI's in BW games, but they need to up things more now. I like happy endings when I feel like I've earned them. If I get a happy ending in DA4, I will probably feel like I've earned that shit after the two-game gauntlet that Solas put me through It's the same reason why I felt like ME3 deserved a happier ending overall, at least as one of the potential outcomes. IMO Andromeda's happy ending was a little too easy and convenient, but I understand that comes down to personal preference. I agree with this. I liked it, but I was missing more conflict and harder choices. I'm hoping we get that with DA4. I want to feel conflicted and worry about how my decisions will effect things.
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Post by Kimberly on May 10, 2017 3:43:15 GMT
I'd be very disappointed if they went really dark the next game. Keep on with the exploration/discovery aspect. There are so many ways they could go with that angle. Obviously you need SOME 'bad' to happen or things would quickly get boring, but I don't want ME3 back. That feeling of utter hopelessness with little dots of sun here and there. MEA is the opposite of that, and I like it. I also hate when they force your comps to die, or make you choose who lives and who dies among your crew (looking at you, SWTOR). Mordin's death is the only one (despite that it makes me cry) that I don't hate because of how/why it happens. Can't see them coming up with something that good again. Lol quoted wrong person!
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Post by Kimberly on May 10, 2017 3:41:30 GMT
They could, but I hope they do keep the sense of pervasive optimism that makes Andromeda feel like a fresh start rather than trying to recreate the exact same formula behind the OT. It would be a shame to lose what really is the driving force of charm in the game. I think there should be harder decisions, but I also think that going down the path of trying to copy the feel of the OT would be a terrible mistake. They have the framework established, and they're only going to hurt themselves further by trying to go back and destroy what they have built up. I'd be very disappointed if they went really dark the next game. Keep on with the exploration/discovery aspect. There are so many ways they could go with that angle. Obviously you need SOME 'bad' to happen or things would quickly get boring, but I don't want ME3 back. That feeling of utter hopelessness with little dots of sun here and there. MEA is the opposite of that, and I like it. I also hate when they force your comps to die, or make you choose who lives and who dies among your crew (looking at you, SWTOR). Mordin's death is the only one (despite that it makes me cry) that I don't hate because of how/why it happens. Can't see them coming up with something that good again.
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