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Post by Ryzaki on Jun 7, 2017 17:03:56 GMT
He didn't really feel like a bro to me but that's a ymmv thing. Oh yeah I don't think any of the male romanceables get good receptions from the lads. Garrus is one of the exceptions if anything. It's how you play it with him since he is so receptive to your emotions. Also it seems Angara like emotional/casual replies. Logical/professional are not well received. I do like being logical though, just to watch Evfra struggle with being polite lol Yeah my characters are logical/professional to a t.
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Post by Ryzaki on Jun 7, 2017 16:59:26 GMT
I mean I feel the aliens make better bros (Jaal is the exception) but maybe that's because I'm one of those who's reaction to romancing an alien is "I rather not." Liam gave me the bro and the romance option for the price of 1. XD The only other one that did so was Garrus (and since I played Male Shep the romance bit was a no go ) Surprisingly if you go just the friendship route with Jaal, he's also a bro, but more passionate. He's a lot like Liam and vice versa when it comes to having your back, being openly emotional and there for you. I watched his friendship path with an emotional Ryder and it was even more warmer than his romance in my opinion. If you have Liam and Jaal with you, they'll always catch you when you fall. He didn't really feel like a bro to me but that's a ymmv thing. That makes me sad because I like the characters that were with you the longest. Wait Alistair? I wouldn't say he fell into it tho. Same here, I love all the characters... but Alistair didn't get that good a reception from the lads Oh yeah I don't think any of the male romanceables get good receptions from the lads. Garrus is one of the exceptions if anything.
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Post by Ryzaki on Jun 7, 2017 16:52:47 GMT
Yes. Especially since he waits for you when you wake up. It's adorable and my favorite friends to lovers romance (other than Garrus). I don't know why he doesn't get more love. I wouldn't be surprised if its the curse of the default squaddies all over again... him and Cora seem to always be on the backburner because they aren't "new"... Alisair and Carver seem to fall into this too... That makes me sad because I like the characters that were with you the longest. Wait Alistair? I wouldn't say he fell into it tho.
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Post by Ryzaki on Jun 7, 2017 16:49:12 GMT
Yes. Especially since he waits for you when you wake up. It's adorable and my favorite friends to lovers romance (other than Garrus). I don't know why he doesn't get more love. Humans rarely do in ME. Out of Kaidan, Jacob, Vega and Cortez, Liam is my fav! None top him for a bro in my opinion. He's like Sera was to my Inquisitor (same writer haha) especially her pranks to loosen everyone up! Liam does the same with movie night! I mean I feel the aliens make better bros (Jaal is the exception) but maybe that's because I'm one of those who's reaction to romancing an alien is "I rather not." Liam gave me the bro and the romance option for the price of 1. XD The only other one that did so was Garrus (and since I played Male Shep the romance bit was a no go )
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Post by Ryzaki on Jun 7, 2017 16:44:36 GMT
That is always the part that gets me. Like what is Liam a bump on the log? *huggles Liam close* He's the best! Has the best mission too, and I was just so "awww" when I chose the logical reply during the scene where I became Pathfinder and he tells me I can lean on him. Yes. Especially since he waits for you when you wake up. It's adorable and my favorite friends to lovers romance (other than Garrus). I don't know why he doesn't get more love.
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Post by Ryzaki on Jun 7, 2017 16:27:14 GMT
omg, I rage quitted that thread yesterday. I never posted in there, but I was disgusted by some of the things that were said. I quit earlier with trying to explain why they did it and why it should not matter to Sara players, but eh... they are so determined to say he's ruined, Suvi should be bi, etc... or the worst one is that now we females have no straight LI's. Poor Liam lolThat is always the part that gets me. Like what is Liam a bump on the log? *huggles Liam close*
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Post by Ryzaki on Jun 7, 2017 14:43:09 GMT
But seriously this is a surprise. I'm glad they did it but I didn't think they would. Hopefully they'll never put themselves in the position to have to do this again.
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Post by Ryzaki on Jun 7, 2017 14:37:58 GMT
Wait people think bi romances mean that? Leliana was not that way at all, neither was Josie! Fenris too! I think the only LI that canon cheats on you is hetero dude, Jacob. lol Do not get me started on the heap of unfortunate implications that is Jacob.
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Post by Ryzaki on Jun 3, 2017 16:38:08 GMT
Anyways, I want more important, plot relevant LGBT companions/squadmates that can't be killed off or easily shoved aside. It's not an issue of "player choice" but of gay shit being easily gotten rid of in comparison to hetero shit. Can you imagine a game where the gay characters are mandatory and unkillable (also plentiful) but there's only 2 straight characters and they are optional and can die. I mean would they still be happy with the specifics? Sure why would I care? Most of BW's melodrama bs is shoved onto the forced mandatory people anyway.
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Post by Ryzaki on Jun 3, 2017 5:38:36 GMT
I despise BW's mandatory characters. Because they can't be bothered to make it consistent for the PC and the NPC so you end up with someone following the PC like a dog when they should be trying to shank them at the first opportunity.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 29, 2017 15:40:54 GMT
Yes but the problem is the delicate little petal straight guys who are too insecure to be around gay and feel any remotely flirtacious remarks are them being unfairly ninjamanced and how it's heterophobia for them to be forced to acknowledge the existence of gay. But it's ok for characters like Kelly and Pelessaria to ask for your d or v with no precursor whatsoever. I've been on BioWare forums for over four years, and in that time I've never once seen anyone complain about being ninjamanced by a gay person, when people complain about ninjamancing its inevitably about Liara. Or are you referring to the infamous Anders flirt? Leliana had a bug where she'd somehow think you were involved. It was more hilarious than anything with her randomly coming at me near the end of my Alistair romance like HOW COULD YOU? I was so confused XD
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Post by Ryzaki on May 28, 2017 17:25:10 GMT
Anyways, that's the last I'll say of that. If he wants to continue the cycle of "You're attacking the straight writers by thinking they need help," then he can go argue with himself. As for ME:A, I wonder how much DLC we can expect. Not much I'd imagine. They'll probably finish the DLC they were already working on and maybe give us 1 more if we're lucky.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 27, 2017 20:19:00 GMT
I think Chee (who's orientation I don't know) writes better LGBT characters then Gaider does. S he always writes her romance storylines directed towards women. I don't think writers have to be LGBT to write good LGBT characters/romance but they should stay away from (or get a lot of help with) topics they don't understand or think they understand like the pressure to have children, people being put off by their marriages, family falling out because of it. Those things bring up a lot of conflicting feelings that are hard to understand unless you have experienced them. Honestly I would prefer if they just didn't do those story lines with gay characters because they are usually poorly done and don't fit into the overall story well. Characters who act differently towards different genders is fine with me but you don't to have to have a story arc that revolves around why a character is gay. Their attraction to my same sex character or a few lines of dialogue is enough to "explain" that. I do respect Gaider a lot for demanding LGBT people have a choice in an RPG and I love a lot of his work but I do think Chee writes better LGBT characters. Eh I wouldn't say that. Her female character romances are much better than her male one. If anything I'd say she's really skilled at writing female romance characters if anything.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 26, 2017 19:39:54 GMT
Wat. Does that person know how candle wax works?!? I mean if you're gonna write sex you could do some basic research damn. The even dumber thing about it is that women need lube, too, so it's not some foreign idea. I don't know, maybe I just want something different from my m/m content than other straight women: guys that are into each other, and laughing, and having fun, and being sweet and romantic, and getting off on getting each other off. Seriously. I could get the lack of super prep because some women need very little but candle wax?!? Yeah I'm more into the dark wtf someone shoot this crazy jackass fiction myself but I don't try to pretend that shit's romantic or anything other than written porn.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 26, 2017 19:23:46 GMT
I kinda of want to read that guy now (I'm not into romance novels, though...), especially if he's the exact opposite of: I find that revolting, and not at all sexy, and would not want to read it. This reminds me of one occasion where Rouccoco mentioned he read a fic where they used candle wax as lube. I don't even want to know what was behind that thought process. As an aside, I do think it's interesting that they have such a policy. Wat. Does that person know how candle wax works?!? I mean if you're gonna write sex you could do some basic research damn.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 26, 2017 19:12:23 GMT
Wait were his books not selling the amount they expected them to sell tho? Because if you're not selling the amount that's expected yeah being booted is a reasonable outcome. If he was getting a different audience but still selling well then him being dropped makes no sense. Lemme dig up the Tumblr post in question... So it's basically yes, his stories weren't selling, because they were not what the straight women reading were buying. Because he was telling stories from the perspective of a gay man writing gay men, and the straight female audience was unhappy with it. The only issue I see here is the gay men he was writing the stories for didn't buy his books. (Outside of the that's not sexy complaints because really there's publishers that's all for the non consent they should've been forced to switch publishers too) Maybe going to another publisher who focused on the gay male audience instead of female readers would've served him better. If he was selling the expected (or more) and they dropped him yeah that's fucked up and he should sue for discrimination.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 26, 2017 18:55:08 GMT
Read A Land Fit for Heroes recently, he wrote gay pretty well for a straight man. A LOT of gay romance novels are also written by straight women, they're not all terrible. A concern there, though, is women authors who are using M/M relationships to fetishize them - there's a lot of controversy in the whole industry because there are a lot of (straight) women shouting down actual gay men who are trying to break in and tell their stories. Like a Tumblr post I've seen going around mentions that at one publisher for erotic novels dropped their only gay man on the basis that he wasn't writing what women wanted to read. So the number of straight women writing gay romance novels are less writing the experiences of gay men and more writing what straight women fantasize a M/M relationship to be, and pushing the voices of gay men writing FOR gay men out of the way. Wait were his books not selling the amount they expected them to sell tho? Because if you're not selling the amount that's expected yeah being booted is a reasonable outcome. If he was getting a different audience but still selling well then him being dropped makes no sense.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 24, 2017 15:48:45 GMT
Dunno where else to say it, but Gil's romance feels like it had 10 dialogues cut out of it. And response options? We can do it your way Ryder, fast, slow, later... Really? Well, let's take it slow, says Ryder. Not sure what exactly that slowed down... Ryder's dialogue gets out of touch with the wheel the moment you see Jill, and it just doesn't re-attach itself to it. They are so suddenly so much in love it's weird. Where did the courtship go? But, Gil did noticed Ryder cheated in poker. Now, that was important. Odd stuff, Gil's roamnce. I like him, I really do, but most of his romance was... lost somewhere? So.. he notices you cheat at poker if you romance him? I didn't romance him and cheated at poker and he just never noticed and it never got mentioned again. lol Pretty sure he always notices he just doesn't call you out on it unless you bring it up or are romancing him.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 15, 2017 23:01:47 GMT
Also the thorian. A sentient giant plant thing is about as alien as it gets. Also thorian > Leviathans and should've factored into the Reaper backstory somehow. Oh yeah I always forgot about that thing because I always murder it XD
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Post by Ryzaki on May 15, 2017 21:56:12 GMT
I miss the Rachni and the Geth. I miss how the geth weren't just humans in different customs like every other race (until ME3 *sigh*) they actually were alien. Rip geth bros.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 14, 2017 4:47:42 GMT
Yeah, I seem to recall Gaider making a similar statement in reference to Cullen and Cassandra, something about them being religious? So...them being straight just made more sense? Something along those lines, although take that with a huge grain of salt; I obviously don't have any quotes and it was two and a half years ago, it's a little fuzzy. And half the time he's taking the piss, so . Honestly sometimes I'm not sure how much they actually mean it as much as they use it as a way to preemptively defend against criticism when people are disappointed by the sexuality distribution. I can't read Mac's remarks as anything but either being almost unbelievably clueless (emphasis on the unbelievably, especially given the company he works for) or trying to deflect the flood of frustration he knew was coming their way. That...really wouldn't make sense given the only blatantly atheistic LIs are Morrigan, Solas and Bull (mostly because all Qunari are atheists). All the other LIs are religious some more strongly than others but yeah. Even Dorian believes in the Maker even if he's not buying what the Chantry's selling.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 13, 2017 20:46:57 GMT
Ugh I'm pro-sanity. The mages do need to be controlled but the way the templars do it makes them more inclined to lash out which is the exact opposite of what you want. That said they shouldn't be allowed to roam free like they're harmless. Circles do need to exist but as mandatory schools not prisons and templars needed to be held accountable. Yes bloodthirsty, jackass templars will be needed but those asshats should be chasing down proven bloodmages not guarding the mages following the law in the tower. Both Leliana and Vivienne just spell disaster to me. Leliana is too permissive and Vivienne just concentrates all power in her hand so the moment she dies/falls it'll be more fucked than it was before. Vivienne's "power hunger" comes from being otherwise powerless as a class- I do not truly believe she wants power for the sake of power as she shows great remorse and anxiety over the most vulnerable people- the idea is that she doesn't trust anyone else to protect them. She has dedicated followers (moreso than Leliana) that would argue for and with her in the case of her no longer being Divine. And Cassandra keeps everything the same, which is hardly idealistic or stable even since the pandoras box that is the college of enchanters is opened regardless. Doesn't matter why she does it the result is the same. You can already see the cracks in her leadership in Trespasser. Add to her being a mage and that it's just a matter of waiting for the dominoes to fall. And no she doesn't unless The PC for some baffling reason don't have her rebuild the seekers. As for stability that's kind of what happens tho?
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Post by Ryzaki on May 13, 2017 20:06:10 GMT
Ugh I'm pro-sanity. The mages do need to be controlled but the way the templars do it makes them more inclined to lash out which is the exact opposite of what you want. That said they shouldn't be allowed to roam free like they're harmless.
Circles do need to exist but as mandatory schools not prisons and templars needed to be held accountable.
Yes bloodthirsty, jackass templars will be needed but those asshats should be chasing down proven bloodmages not guarding the mages following the law in the tower.
Both Leliana and Vivienne just spell disaster to me. Leliana is too permissive and Vivienne just concentrates all power in her hand so the moment she dies/falls it'll be more fucked than it was before.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 12, 2017 0:05:31 GMT
Ugh. I hated the Hawke/Alistair choice. You have to jump through some pretty unfortunate hoops to get a reasonably happy ending with the guy if you romance him (something we don't get with very many male LIs) only to have to pick between him and my own character...? I chose Hawke, because she was my least favorite Bioware protagonist, but that was still shitty because I felt really bad for Anders. Fortunately the Keep exists, so I can mix and match different playthroughs so I don't have to make that choice (or make an asshole Hawke who romances no one to pick over Alistair) but it means my personal 'canon' never makes it into Inquisition. Yep it was the final FU to Alistairmancers that wanted to have a happy ending. The female companions don't go through that shit.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 11, 2017 22:33:49 GMT
DA4 should make you choose between the Inquisitor and whoever the Inquisitor's LI was in your playthrough, tbh. Good luck with that for those who romanced Solas. That choice alone would make me romance Solas just to be able to kill that egghead.
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