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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 28, 2017 13:21:56 GMT
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 27, 2017 0:29:10 GMT
Update to the Reyes dance scene
skip to 24:10 min. If you choose this Option, the dance is less bugged
So there are two versions of the dance? Were we comparing the wrong versions when making the male/female comparison earlier?
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 23, 2017 20:31:12 GMT
Count me 250% on board for bi Eder, lol (with the way he has been teased they are definitely going to give him to the ladies). My twink Watcher fell in love at first sight... Personally I'd be disappointed in them if the real romance wasn't Iselmyr. I don't remember where I read it, it was probably on Fig, but apparently in this game Aloth is more... accepting? of Iselmyr? There's some character development there, and he's more comfortable with her presence in general I think. So... who knows lmao I think that will actually depend on choices you have made in the first game.
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 23, 2017 20:10:59 GMT
First, it was a fade-to-black scene with Gil, and then there's this. The differences are so infuriating because they show exactly how little they value m/m romance. The animations I get. The scene was optimized for m/f, okay, it's shitty and I'm salty. (I'm actually very salty and angry about that lol) What I don't understand is why they changed the camera angles? With m/f it shows them dancing with Reyes's arm around Sara's waist, while with Scott we only see their feet. Was that because the devs thought it was "icky" or "gross" or somehow "offensive" in some way to see two guys dancing with one's arm around the other's waist? What the fuck? The likely reason is that the same animations with the same camera angles wouldn't work, there would be tons of clipping or hands resting in the air, since Scott is much taller. You basically need to create an entire scene for each Ryder, they just didn't put much effort in the m/m version. This is the exact reason why Cullen was made het and race-gated. Not enough time and/or resources to do it right.
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 22, 2017 1:11:15 GMT
OT: Hanzo and McCready need to be canon. Same voice actor, wrong character. Speaking of which, I hope we get to bang Eder in the next Pillars of Eternity.
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 22, 2017 0:52:43 GMT
Yeah, I am really happy about how far we have progressed in LGBT representation in TV that young LGBT teens can have those depictions to look at and not uh the past alternative. Not big into anime but I have heard about how great Yuri on Ice is, which came out last year and is by all accounts a wonderful and landmark example of gay representation. Yuri On Ice is freaking fantastic. I was skeptical but my friend insisted I watch it and I was not disappointed. I didn't even know it featured an emotionally intimate m/m relationship when I started - it was marketed just as a figure skating sports anime, the gay just happens to be there and not a big deal. It was refreshing. Literally everyone I've seen talk about this show has strongly recommended it. I really need to watch this.
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 22, 2017 0:24:11 GMT
Jaal's ass is the only ass worth attention imho, splendid work, well done. Scott's ass is pretty nice too, pity only straight dudes get to see it lmao. Wow, that is... pretty damn sad when you think about it. Conan Exiles has got that one covered. I mean, I've never seen a game before that has dicks flowing in the wind. Never said it was *good* dick physics. There are Skyrim mods that have better dick physics than Conan Exiles.
Not that I would know anything about those.
I mean, what kind of person would install a dick physics mod? Certainly not me.
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 21, 2017 23:17:07 GMT
God, everything about Jaal, from the extremely hush-hush marketing to what I'm hearing about him in the game itself is such a confusing clusterfuck that I can't help but find it hilarious I'm waiting for the announcement that this was a social experiment. Damn you, Vault-Tech!
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 21, 2017 22:58:39 GMT
Maybe all of angara are bisexual but Jaal is like, part of the straight minority. He can't help it guys, he was born this way. Oh my god, straight pride Jaal is actually true?! They wouldn't fucking dare Including fictional minorities to better exclude RL ones? Let's hope not.
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 21, 2017 22:44:16 GMT
We really need a codex entry about Angara sexuality now. Because I am extremely confused.
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 21, 2017 22:29:58 GMT
Looks like angara just have 2 bodytypes and some females look like Jaal (and have female voice) while some males look Avela-like (and have male voices). ...straight Jaal sounds more and more like dev's "no homo, bro" decision and not even "he prefers females" with angara literally not having any body restrictions from what it looks like. ...wat
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 21, 2017 18:31:38 GMT
until MacCready gave me a toy his dead wife carved to commemorate him lying to her about his career choices. Who are you calling weird? Don't you dare diss my tiny garbage husband. It's not just that it's a surrogate mother thing. Which in and of itself could be interesting if used to tell the story of two guys who grew into a loving relationship and wanted to start a family together. That's not what it is at all though.
We're told Jill teases Gil all the time because it's his duty to be fathering children, and obviously he's gay so he's not fulfilling that 'natural' duty. (I'm sorry, I thought this was supposed to be a progressive gay story?)
When Gil takes Scott to meet Jill (who he adores, like some kind of Stockholm Syndrome relationship), they haven't even kissed or had any conversations about whether they are starting a relationship with one another. As Jill's shuttle touches down, Gil asks if he should refer to Scott as his guy or not. They point out they haven't kissed yet. So they kiss. Quickly. And suddenly Scott is Gil's guy, and Jill treats them like they're in some kind of newly committed romance.
Jill's whole deal is the repopulation - making sure the humans (and maybe other species) of the Milky Way get jiggy with it and start popping out babies to establish a population. Before you've done anything in the romance together past say "sure, I'll be your guy" and share a quick kiss (maybe you get a couple of other dialogues, I'm not sure - nothing important in terms of romance though) Gil says Jill wants to have a baby herself to kickstart this repopulation thing, and wants Gil to be the dad. And since Scott's in the picture and he seems kinda cool they should bring the kid up together. Despite the fact they barely know each other and haven't even fucked yet. There's certainly no real commitment there at that point. Or if one is implied, none has been shown to develop on screen.
What a fucking story. It had the potential to explore some really progressive and important issues but it's done in about the worst way I can imagine. It relies on shitty fucking ideas about gay men being unnatural, about straight sex being natural because it's linked to procreation, and the idea of having a kid together isn't a loving show of commitment to one another but a purely functional action aimed at populating the galaxy. And one that doesn't make sense in any kind of context to the main story of the game because Scott's the freaking pathfinder and heading into dangerous situations all the time and my god is the kid meant to live on the Tempest with them (since they don't know at this point the time frame for when they'll have safe settlement and Scott's job will be over)? That's not to say soldiers can't be parents, but jeez of all the freaking stories to come up with.
I don't doubt they honestly believed they were doing something good here. But fucking hell, they seem to be of the mindset that any content is good content, with absolutely no awareness or reflection on the issues they try to write about. Wow, this is bad. I was excited when I heard about the spoiler, but... yeah. That was one of the worst ways they could have done this.
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 21, 2017 17:27:13 GMT
Do they? I thought that happened while Shepard was busy being dead. They leave in 2185 but I don't think it specifies exactly when. I guess it's up in the air then, since all of ME2 happened during that year. I stand corrected.
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 21, 2017 17:14:15 GMT
Gavorn was in ME2 so he stayed in the Milky Way, guys. He is already long dead. The Arks leave between ME2 and ME3 don't they? Do they? I thought that happened while Shepard was busy being dead.
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 21, 2017 17:11:16 GMT
Gavorn was in ME2 so he stayed in the Milky Way, guys. He is already long dead.
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 21, 2017 16:55:22 GMT
I... don't see a gay patch happening. That would be ridiculously controversial. Maybe an additional m/m character in a future dlc mission, but that wouldn't really fix anything unless he joined the squad for the rest of the game.
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 21, 2017 15:56:31 GMT
I want to be surprised that they're ignoring the m/m questions, but instead I'm just disgusted. Like... do they have to twist the knife?? Yeah, really disgusting. Feeling comforted in my decision to not buy the game.
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 21, 2017 13:29:55 GMT
Well, game is looking like they had some completely separate things that don't even correspond to each other and mashed them together. That's... not what a good game looks like. 4.3 for PC. RIP. 3.8 for PS4... I... feel... nothing. I literally don't care. Splitting time between my male human noble in DAO and beautiful Sheploo in ME1. I miss actual Mass Effect. Kaidan, Liara, Garrus, Tali my babies I've missed you Human noble isn't my favorite origin story (it's ok), but I think it's the only one during which you can bang another dude. I hope you didn't miss him?
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 21, 2017 13:09:06 GMT
i don't want to spoil myself by watching video can somebody tell me: - is reyes fling or fully developed romance? - no romance scene means the relationship is left ambiguous? do they even kiss? is there any kind of culmination? does it feel satisfying anyway? - do gil/reyes acknowledge if you romance both? is that possible? According to Biofan they won't even acknowledge each other if you romance both. So, cheating?
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 21, 2017 0:53:33 GMT
Did I read that right? Why would a trans person drop their birth name when introducing themselves? Wtf, Bioware.
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 20, 2017 18:45:10 GMT
Wanting more than one option is being greedy? What the FUCK?
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 20, 2017 17:40:46 GMT
Looks like I won't be getting the game after all. I'm sure Gil's romance is adorable and I would have enjoyed it, but no way in hell am I supporting this bullshit.
Oh well. I'll just watch the good parts on youtube.
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 20, 2017 17:25:09 GMT
Alright. Well then.
I do have a personal message to the Bioware team.
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 20, 2017 17:17:35 GMT
Hi everyone -- my brother came through. So that's TWO of my friends/family that provided accurate information for us. I'm a lucky guy to have such reliable sources and now I owe them both dinner/drinks on all of us. Here are the pics from the Prima Guide. I've been sitting on this a few minutes because I almost didn't share it in fear of what it will do to this place. But I decided it's better to share now since it's all going to be known in a few hours anyway, right. A big word of warning: Remember that this has been incorrect in the past, so it's still not 100% confirmed until we see it in the game itself. *silently screaming at the invisible pictures*
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Post by T-Rex † on Mar 20, 2017 15:08:12 GMT
This thread goes back and forth every 5 seconds. Is there actual final 100% definite confirmation on Jaal (and Vetra?) or not? N O P E
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