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Post by river82 on Jul 11, 2019 2:22:43 GMT
I believe Red Dead Redemption 2 was quite a success. If you refer to the online version of it, that has little to do with expectations from it's fans and more to do with the dangers of microtransactions, lootboxes and "live-service" models for games. In short: the success of GTA 5 online created an demand from shareholders, investors, whatever, of Red Dead Redemption 2 online having to perform far better economically. Because GTA 5 online's economical success rested on the back of microtransactions, this means Rockstar had to monitize the living crap out of Red Dead Redemption 2 online therefor making RDR2 online worse than GTA5 online. It was an initial success, but I don't think its going to have the legs that GTAV does. What I have seen is that the initial quarter for RDR2 was 23 million copies sold and the second quarter it slowed to only one million additional copies sold. That doesn't mean anything for long term sales, but it is something to keep an eye on. It just felt there was more negativity from players for there was very little with GTAV versus how people felt about RDR2 even if it was just people complaining about how the game felt like a waste of time versus previous Rock Star Games. The online problems of RDR2 is based on how the shark card system worked in GTAV did where I think it was the first year online generated over $600 million in revenue and that was just them selling ingame currency. Which is why I bet they abandoned single player DLC that they had if you believe the reports online they started for they had the voice actors in recording lines. This is so frustrating to go through this every time because game journalists in general are fucking shit and won't accurately report information. The 23 million figure was the "sold in" figure, otherwise known as shipped to retailers. It was not the "sold through" figure, which is the number sold to consumers. Mainly because publishers don't care about that as much. When you say that RDR2 sold 23 million copies, you're operating off inaccurate information and that's not your fault, it's because game journalists are not fucking journalists and/or good at their jobs. Red Dead Redemption 2 has now moved more than 23 million copies, publisher Take-Two Interactive said in a call with investors yesterday. The figure is six million more than Take-Two reported in the 12 days following Red Dead Redemption 2’s Oct. 26 launch. The number represents “sold-in” copies, meaning that the physical sales are games shipped to retailers, not how many were actually bought by customers.
Take-Two didn’t provide numbers of actual sales to consumers (known as “sold-through”), but in a heavily qualified ranking last month, the NPD Group said that Red Dead Redemption 2 had dethroned Activision’s Call of Duty franchise as 2018’s top seller. The fine print on that: Call of Duty: Black Ops 4’s PC sales were not part of the tally (Red Dead Redemption 2 did not launch on PC).
www.polygon.com/2019/2/6/18213931/red-dead-redemption-2-sales-ps4-xbox-one
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 11, 2019 3:01:03 GMT
It was an initial success, but I don't think its going to have the legs that GTAV does. What I have seen is that the initial quarter for RDR2 was 23 million copies sold and the second quarter it slowed to only one million additional copies sold. That doesn't mean anything for long term sales, but it is something to keep an eye on. It just felt there was more negativity from players for there was very little with GTAV versus how people felt about RDR2 even if it was just people complaining about how the game felt like a waste of time versus previous Rock Star Games. The online problems of RDR2 is based on how the shark card system worked in GTAV did where I think it was the first year online generated over $600 million in revenue and that was just them selling ingame currency. Which is why I bet they abandoned single player DLC that they had if you believe the reports online they started for they had the voice actors in recording lines. This is so frustrating to go through this every time because game journalists in general are fucking shit and won't accurately report information. The 23 million figure was the "sold in" figure, otherwise known as shipped to retailers. It was not the "sold through" figure, which is the number sold to consumers. Mainly because publishers don't care about that as much. When you say that RDR2 sold 23 million copies, you're operating off inaccurate information and that's not your fault, it's because game journalists are not fucking journalists and/or good at their jobs. Red Dead Redemption 2 has now moved more than 23 million copies, publisher Take-Two Interactive said in a call with investors yesterday. The figure is six million more than Take-Two reported in the 12 days following Red Dead Redemption 2’s Oct. 26 launch. The number represents “sold-in” copies, meaning that the physical sales are games shipped to retailers, not how many were actually bought by customers.
Take-Two didn’t provide numbers of actual sales to consumers (known as “sold-through”), but in a heavily qualified ranking last month, the NPD Group said that Red Dead Redemption 2 had dethroned Activision’s Call of Duty franchise as 2018’s top seller. The fine print on that: Call of Duty: Black Ops 4’s PC sales were not part of the tally (Red Dead Redemption 2 did not launch on PC).
www.polygon.com/2019/2/6/18213931/red-dead-redemption-2-sales-ps4-xbox-one Thanks for the clarification.
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Post by Ieldra on Jul 13, 2019 11:29:10 GMT
Speaking of DLC one aspect of Cyberpunk 2077 I would really like to see expanded upon is the level of augmentation you can receive, up to and including Full Body/Total Droid conversions. It would be a nice extension of the whole transhumanism theme running throughout the setting as well as giving players more options in how they want to customize their characters. If we're getting options for being gender neutral, or having non-binary romances then we should also have the option of leaving all those (IMO) shallow aspects of humanity behind and fully embracing the purity of the machine. I'd like that as well, but with regard to the whole gender topic I'd also like some conversation options where I can scoff at the gender-obsessed and comment that it's irrelevant, without having necessarily turned into a machine. And if we could actually switch our physical sex that would make things irrelevant for real.
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Post by cankiie on Jul 13, 2019 20:14:20 GMT
I am just sitting here and imagining that people expect a little too much when CDPR mentioned "We have non-binary options."
I imagine it is only related to the character creation, possibly something akin to not really choosing a gender as you create your character, but just sticking to bodytype, then allowing you to mix and morph face and possibly body from there.
This also allows CDPR to have all hairstyles, types of jaws, cheeks, eyes, whatever for everyone, instead of locking types for a specific gender.
I imagine this is all CDPR meant.
And gender won't really be specified much throughout the game, aside from the provocative ads that helps set up the setting you play in.
I bet all romanceable characters in the game are also what we call player-sexual.
Overall, gender and sexuality is made absolutely irrelevant.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Jul 13, 2019 20:36:21 GMT
I am just sitting here and imagining that people expect a little too much when CDPR mentioned "We have non-binary options." I imagine it is only related to the character creation, possibly something akin to not really choosing a gender as you create your character, but just sticking to bodytype, then allowing you to mix and morph face and possibly body from there. This also allows CDPR to have all hairstyles, types of jaws, cheeks, eyes, whatever for everyone, instead of locking types for a specific gender. I imagine this is all CDPR meant. And gender won't really be specified much throughout the game, aside from the provocative ads that helps set up the setting you play in. I bet all romanceable characters in the game are also what we call player-sexual. Overall, gender and sexuality is made absolutely irrelevant. NPCs have a fixed sexuality, so it's not player sexual. You can put a female head and voice to a male body, and vice versa. That's how the non-binary choices work. Also, NPCs will occasionally react to your gender type, but I doubt that includes trans.
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Post by cankiie on Jul 13, 2019 20:40:16 GMT
I am just sitting here and imagining that people expect a little too much when CDPR mentioned "We have non-binary options." I imagine it is only related to the character creation, possibly something akin to not really choosing a gender as you create your character, but just sticking to bodytype, then allowing you to mix and morph face and possibly body from there. This also allows CDPR to have all hairstyles, types of jaws, cheeks, eyes, whatever for everyone, instead of locking types for a specific gender. I imagine this is all CDPR meant. And gender won't really be specified much throughout the game, aside from the provocative ads that helps set up the setting you play in. I bet all romanceable characters in the game are also what we call player-sexual. Overall, gender and sexuality is made absolutely irrelevant. NPCs have a fixed sexuality, so it's not player sexual. You can put a female head and voice to a male body, and vice versa. That's how the non-binary choices work. Also, NPCs will occasionally react to your gender type, but I doubt that includes trans. Arh, I see. Interesting. Well, gonna be fun to see how the game plays out once it releases. Looking forward to it.
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Post by AnDromedary on Jul 26, 2019 19:56:20 GMT
I'm playing female V for these boots alone. Dam, Miranda would be jealous.
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Post by Kymira on Aug 21, 2019 14:43:56 GMT
Annnd some more. Can get a glimpse of the mini map.
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Post by azarhal on Aug 21, 2019 17:11:47 GMT
All the new screenshots are meh to me.
I can't tell if it's because it's all from the same stuff that was talked to death at E3 or because showing people being blown up by guns makes the game look like a generic shooter to me.
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Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on Aug 21, 2019 18:01:20 GMT
I didn't know R. Talsorian had their own YouTube channel.
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Post by Tittus on Aug 21, 2019 20:18:08 GMT
A mini-map! I didn't play a single game that had one of those in an entire year. I'm feeling nostalgic.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Aug 22, 2019 13:05:37 GMT
Amazed at how well they transitioned into creating an urban environment. They better not downgrade this shit. I still need to see some rain, fog inversion etc.
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Post by xetykins on Aug 22, 2019 15:41:16 GMT
Ahhh sweet looking guns and cars. I am not a gun or car enthusiast but...maannn! The graphics in general looks really nice as well. Definitely no tired faces there 😂 I hope it will be like this when the game comes out, or at least very minimal downgrades if they really have to.
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Post by 10k on Aug 24, 2019 0:47:21 GMT
So hyped for this game. I am so glad that I was able to get my hands on one of those collector edition. I really hope, if this game is received well, it becomes a series like the witcher and choices carry over to the next game. I can't wait to see that character creator, man next year is so far away
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Post by xetykins on Aug 24, 2019 6:16:43 GMT
So hyped for this game. I am so glad that I was able to get my hands on one of those collector edition. I really hope, if this game is received well, it becomes a series like the witcher and choices carry over to the next game. I can't wait to see that character creator, man next year is so far away Oh wow. You are so lucky to get the CE. I tried all platforms immediately after preorder opened and no luck. I have PC and Xb, but I would just like to have the goodies, so PS version don't matter. It seems like they sold so fast. I hope they do another batch and not sell them in bulk this time,so plebs like me gets a chance.
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Post by 10k on Aug 24, 2019 12:33:37 GMT
So hyped for this game. I am so glad that I was able to get my hands on one of those collector edition. I really hope, if this game is received well, it becomes a series like the witcher and choices carry over to the next game. I can't wait to see that character creator, man next year is so far away Oh wow. You are so lucky to get the CE. I tried all platforms immediately after preorder opened and no luck. I have PC and Xb, but I would just like to have the goodies, so PS version don't matter. It seems like they sold so fast. I hope they do another batch and not sell them in bulk this time,so plebs like me gets a chance. Yeah, The CE was gone so fast on Amazon. But Best Buy and Gamestop were taking pre-orders for about a day or 2 after the announcement. Was able to snag 1 from Best Buy.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Aug 24, 2019 14:57:05 GMT
I didn't wait for the PC version this time around as I suspected it would be delayed or not coming at all, just like TW3. And sure enough that's what happened. When they did confirm it for PC it was gone in minutes. I have no idea why PC distribution to the US was an issue with both games.
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