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Post by mikeymoonshine on Jun 12, 2017 1:38:12 GMT
I said already that I would wait and see how this and DA4 turn out as have others who express the same concerns. This game is obviously focused on MP and exploration, I doubt the single player will be as good or that the story will be as good or as long as it would be in a single player focused game. It would be a pretty amazing feat if it was. My concern is that the trajectory of Bioware, away from what made them successful and beloved. All their games have exploration now because that made a lot of money for Bethesda, all their games have multiplayer now for the micro transactions. Edmonton could have made Andromeda but they were making this instead. It's just a bit worrying to me, My favourite Bioware games are Origins, DA2 and KOTOR. Obviously they have to change with the times and use new technologies but that doesn't have to mean abandoning everything that made them great to chase the success of other studios. Well i remember a time where me and my brother created a band of heroes together in Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 and beat those games in co-op, and it was awesome. Later came Neverwinter Nights and offered the same. It is a feature i've missed dearly in Bioware games for many years. So i am actually stoked about that part. As for story? I am not worried. This game has a dedicated writing team, and there is no way in hell Bioware would ever step away from doing a cinematic and engaging story. If they do, i will eat my hat live on Twitch. I don't own one, so i will have to buy one. I get that people are wary, but i see it more as a return to roots then "hur dur copy other games" That is just me though. Let's see what Bethesda announces later. Like that's cool and everyone but all those times someone at Bioware has outright said that they are taking inspiration from other games makes me think it's more about that, and we are talking about a very different kind of co-op here. Also look at the animations in that game, they are amazing. This most likely means the story will be shorter more scripted and linear. Maybe it will still be good though and maybe DA4 will be more what I am looking for from Bioware. We can all hope.
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Post by Warrick on Jun 12, 2017 1:39:09 GMT
I laughed at the beginning of the trailer. The dude grimacing as he talks and then he makes a face after he's done talking. Overcompensating. Felt to me like "we're doing animations right this time guys!"
Sorry to be negative, but I see zero personality in this game. Yes yes, "lol people being negative about a game they've only seen 2 minutes of", etc. I'll be waiting out of respect for the company's name. I honestly can't see what a Bioware fan is meant to love about the trailer.
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Post by anacronian on Jun 12, 2017 1:40:29 GMT
I laughed at the beginning of the trailer. The dude grimacing as he talks and then he makes a face after he's done talking. Overcompensating. Felt to me like "we're doing animations right this time guys!" Sorry to be negative, but I see zero personality in this game. Yes yes, "lol people being negative about a game they've only seen 2 minutes of", etc. I'll be waiting out of respect for the company's name. I honestly can't see what a Bioware fan is meant to love about the trailer. The real funny thing was that his face actually looked tired...
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Post by decafhigh on Jun 12, 2017 1:42:24 GMT
I'm not saying I approve of this model and the money-gouging that comes from microtransactions in full-priced games, but there's a reason this model is popular, and it's because it brings in tons of money. A few things. I know this is considered "common knowledge" now but is there any actual research that shows this to be true? Does a medicore RPG with a well developed MP mode the sells 4 million copies (MEA) make more money than a great SP RPG that sells 15-20 million copies (Skyrim, TW3) and its accompanying DLC? I kinda doubt it. I do believe it might have a better Return on Investment since that MP cash costs very little in development comparatively. That's where the difference in philosophy comes in. Is the developer/publisher primarily interested in making money or making a great game? I'll go with the folks wanting to make a great game that happen to make lots of money on top of that just being their fringe benefit.
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Post by jimusmc on Jun 12, 2017 1:43:03 GMT
Not much of a multiplayer guy, but that game sure does look purdy. MEA looked purty too when the first gameplay vids were teased to us. still does graphics are great. maxed out looks lovely on PC
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Post by lilithmv on Jun 12, 2017 1:43:23 GMT
Another open world MP clone, in a market saturated with them and where competition is fierce. Mhm. Because it's not like EA had any other studio capable of making open world MP games...
I'll just mentally remove BW as a studio that are the queens and king of RPG's and replace them with studios like CDPR and Bethesda. (unless beth decide to also make an open world rpg MP game, enough of the MP already, we have tons of those!) Also I'm going to slowly, extremely slowly, hype myself up for Cyberpunk 2077.
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Post by fchopin on Jun 12, 2017 1:43:29 GMT
I laughed at the beginning of the trailer. The dude grimacing as he talks and then he makes a face after he's done talking. Overcompensating. Felt to me like "we're doing animations right this time guys!" Sorry to be negative, but I see zero personality in this game. Yes yes, "lol people being negative about a game they've only seen 2 minutes of", etc. I'll be waiting out of respect for the company's name. I honestly can't see what a Bioware fan is meant to love about the trailer. The real funny thing was that his face actually looked tired... Nice joke........
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Post by Sartoz on Jun 12, 2017 1:45:41 GMT
-( ANTHEM)-
Just watched the HD version of the ANTHEM demo trailer. Seems to be part cinematic part in game recording.
First. What's with the Angara/Kett leg shape in the armour design? Human being can't walk/run with bent knees. Weird.
Second. Is this a 1st person shooter?... 'cause climbing into that Ranger armour feels like one.
Third. Lots of team chatter. Halo anyone?
Fourth. ME:A's graphics are better looking.
I remain neutral after watching the demo.
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Post by Sairys on Jun 12, 2017 1:47:01 GMT
Being a single player, player is so hard nowadays. Why dose everything need to be multi player? I HATE playing with other people. I like to play things at my pace. It just makes me sad. Seriously. I don't want to talk to anyone on a headset, especially not a stranger. I don't want to compete with random people. I don't want my hard in-game battles to end in little to no narrative reward/closure. I play games to relax and escape and still work my brain a little bit. Such a bummer that the world is 100% built for extroverts, even the video game world now. I am SOOOO right there with you. I talk to patients all day long. I assist in surgeries on those patients when I'm not talking them down off the ceiling. I give and I give and I give all day long to people who are scared and in pain and when I get home I want to just ball up into some solo time, me myself and I immersed in a Bioware story and shoot things whether it's a gun or an arrow or a mage staff. I don't want to get on headsets and hear other people. I play to relax and escape a 11 hour work day with something I can engross myself into because I can't bring myself to be a vegetable staring at a sitcom. I love my job, and to balance it out, I love to game and blow shit up while engrossed in a story with it, but I want to do it by myself without having to rely on a pick up group.
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Post by Sairys on Jun 12, 2017 1:49:15 GMT
Yeah, but Bioware had co-op in a few titles in the past, and that was great. I don't understand why it is a big deal now. Bioware is dead becaus they are returning to its roots of mech suits and having co-op? What? Hey, if BW comes out and says "Yes Anthem is going to have a great 40-60 hour story campaign with great characters and companions and LI's and engaging story and everything BW is known for. Its not just a MP game." then I'll get more interested. That is not the impression I got from the trailer though.Exactly
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Post by anacronian on Jun 12, 2017 1:50:16 GMT
-( ANTHEM)-
Just watched the HD version of the ANTHEM demo trailer. Seems to be part cinematic part in game recording.
First. What's with the Angara/Kett leg shape in the armour design? Human being can't walk/run with bent knees. Weird.
Second. Is this a 1st person shooter?... 'cause climbing into that Ranger armour feels like one.
Third. Lots of team chatter. Halo anyone?
Fourth. ME:A's graphics are better looking.
I remain neutral after watching the demo.
1.Pretty sure the mechanized suit did the running. 2.Third person shooter, You can discover this by looking at the gameplay and see it's in the third person. 3.That would be the other "players" chiming in though it seemed horribly scripted. 4.No.
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Post by Sartoz on Jun 12, 2017 1:51:33 GMT
Another open world MP clone, in a market saturated with them and where competition is fierce. Mhm. Because it's not like EA had any other studio capable of making open world MP games... I'll just mentally remove BW as a studio that are the queens and king of RPG's and replace them with studios like CDPR and Bethesda. (unless beth decide to also make an open world rpg MP game, enough of the MP already, we have tons of those!) Also I'm going to slowly, extremely slowly, hype myself up for Cyberpunk 2077. -(_ANTHEM_)-
If ANTHEM is truly MP only, expect micro transactions galore.
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Post by lennybusker on Jun 12, 2017 1:52:28 GMT
Another open world MP clone, in a market saturated with them and where competition is fierce. Mhm. Because it's not like EA had any other studio capable of making open world MP games... I'll just mentally remove BW as a studio that are the queens and king of RPG's and replace them with studios like CDPR and Bethesda. (unless beth decide to also make an open world rpg MP game, enough of the MP already, we have tons of those!) Also I'm going to slowly, extremely slowly, hype myself up for Cyberpunk 2077. -(_ANTHEM_)-
If ANTHEM is truly MP only, expect micro transactions galore.
Urgh, it's not going to be MP only. But there will be micro transactions.
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Post by decafhigh on Jun 12, 2017 1:53:58 GMT
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If ANTHEM is truly MP only, expect micro transactions galore.
Urgh, it's not going to be MP only. But there will be micro transactions. Is it an EA game? Then yes it will have micro-transactions.
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Post by Steelcan on Jun 12, 2017 1:54:02 GMT
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If ANTHEM is truly MP only, expect micro transactions galore.
Urgh, it's not going to be MP only. But there will be micro transactions. well there's a difference between MP only and basically MP only, CoD has a SP campaign, but they haven't been worth looking at since Modern Warfare 1.
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Post by armass81 on Jun 12, 2017 1:55:45 GMT
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If ANTHEM is truly MP only, expect micro transactions galore.
Urgh, it's not going to be MP only. But there will be micro transactions. Or loot lotto that never gives you anything.
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Post by anacronian on Jun 12, 2017 1:58:39 GMT
Urgh, it's not going to be MP only. But there will be micro transactions. Is it an EA game? Then yes it will have micro-transactions. Oh yes EA is taking this pony to market.
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Post by lennybusker on Jun 12, 2017 2:00:56 GMT
Urgh, it's not going to be MP only. But there will be micro transactions. well there's a difference between MP only and basically MP only, CoD has a SP campaign, but they haven't been worth looking at since Modern Warfare 1. Of course. There may even be a substantial, say 15-20 hour SP campaign. But I fully expect that people will be able to join for you co-op for any and all of that. Whereas, there will absolutely be MP-only gameplay like raids. You know, like Destiny. Maybe I misunderstood what the person I quoted meant by "MP-only", but I imagine they were suggesting it would not be possible to play the game alone.
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Post by Sartoz on Jun 12, 2017 2:01:13 GMT
-( ANTHEM)-
Just watched the HD version of the ANTHEM demo trailer. Seems to be part cinematic part in game recording.
First. What's with the Angara/Kett leg shape in the armour design? Human being can't walk/run with bent knees. Weird.
Second. Is this a 1st person shooter?... 'cause climbing into that Ranger armour feels like one.
Third. Lots of team chatter. Halo anyone?
Fourth. ME:A's graphics are better looking.
I remain neutral after watching the demo.
1.Pretty sure the mechanized suit did the running. 2.Third person shooter, You can discover this by looking at the gameplay and see it's in the third person. 3.That would be the other "players" chiming in though it seemed horribly scripted. 4.No. -(_ANTHEM_)-
1. Yes but the human legs are in very awkward position and not comfortable. 2. Intro says otherwise but it could be the cinematic part.... seems to be a mix. 3. Hm... chatter = headset = a necessity? 4. Graphics from the youtube version (1920 x 1080) says otherwise. Where did u see the graphics?
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Post by blueasari on Jun 12, 2017 2:01:34 GMT
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Fourth. ME:A's graphics are better looking.
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Post by dreman999 on Jun 12, 2017 2:02:43 GMT
-( ANTHEM)-
Just watched the HD version of the ANTHEM demo trailer. Seems to be part cinematic part in game recording.
First. What's with the Angara/Kett leg shape in the armour design? Human being can't walk/run with bent knees. Weird.
Second. Is this a 1st person shooter?... 'cause climbing into that Ranger armour feels like one.
Third. Lots of team chatter. Halo anyone?
Fourth. ME:A's graphics are better looking.
I remain neutral after watching the demo.
1. The legs are stilts. The top part of the long part of the legs is were the feet go. People move faster on stilts. 2. Clearly it's a tps. 3. Graph wise this is way better then mea. I wish mea looked like this
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Post by smilesja on Jun 12, 2017 2:09:15 GMT
Some CoD games had pretty good SP, didn't they? 4 to 6 hours? Are you serious? Still pretty good.
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Post by dreman999 on Jun 12, 2017 2:10:22 GMT
-( ANTHEM)-
Just watched the HD version of the ANTHEM demo trailer. Seems to be part cinematic part in game recording.
First. What's with the Angara/Kett leg shape in the armour design? Human being can't walk/run with bent knees. Weird.
Second. Is this a 1st person shooter?... 'cause climbing into that Ranger armour feels like one.
Third. Lots of team chatter. Halo anyone?
Fourth. ME:A's graphics are better looking.
I remain neutral after watching the demo.
1. The legs are stilts. The top part of the long part of the legs is were the feet go. People move faster on stilts. They look odd but they are not. It's also done that way to absorb the weight of the suit. The pilots legs are only in the thigh part of the suit. 2. Clearly it's a tps. 3. Graph wise this is way better then mea. I wish mea looked like this
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Post by Ponendus on Jun 12, 2017 2:15:27 GMT
It will have SP, but my bet is that SP is the 'tacked on fan service' aspect, and the game was built to be a MP game. It's written in the stars. If SP were the focus of development, and even a substantial part of the game, then it would have been highlighted and lauded in the very first gameplay trailer or even teaser. In fact SP wasn't even mentioned at all and we had to confirm it through a tweet from a developer who was chided by Aaryn Flynn for even offering to answer questions. Bioware is going down a path I can't follow.
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Post by ENGINEER_H4RR7 on Jun 12, 2017 2:17:52 GMT
Urgh, it's not going to be MP only. But there will be micro transactions. well there's a difference between MP only and basically MP only, CoD has a SP campaign, but they haven't been worth looking at since Modern Warfare 1. Not true, Infinite Warfare has the best COD story to date and probably the best si-fi shooter out there (Ironic I know) but the MP is the same (or not), depending on who you ask. Point being, the SP was really good as well as the length was really decent, about 8 hour if you do not rush. Also, when COD has a better story than Halo 5, you know SP is in trouble.
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