Tanks thread?

Tanks used to be lame, until late generation Panzers were made.





Later Russian tanks, much better than western ones.

Here's the T-44, the often overlooked missing link between the T-34 and the T-54. It was developed and fielded late in WW2 and saw very limited service on the eastern front and in the far east against Japan.




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I'll have to research that.

I don't see how anyone can still be a fan of battle tanks in this day and age. They're suffering the same fate as the large battleships, they're slow lumbering targets and with todays anti-armor technology tanks have become a death trap, even with the most sophisticated reactive armor.

Modern tanks also have passive(jammers) and active defenses(systems like trophy and arena that shoot an explosive projectile at an incoming round) on them.

yes reactive armour has bene around since the mid 80's and its only been marginally improved, however that improvement means it can no longer operate as part of a close working team nor can it operate with infantry in support, so its actually a backwards step in that regard....

its also dangerous and susceptible to emi/emp  and its only good for the first time someone shoots at you if they shoot twice your still fucked, unless they use a sabre hesh or du round in which case just the one will do the job .... tanks are like apc's great for playing bullet sponge and useless for anything larger..... 

when a single grenade on the tracks can take your tank out of action for a minimum of 15 minutes and one in the air intake vent will render it totally inoperable its just a nice white elephant, better off having cheaper things that move faster and still pack a punch, a 2 man buggy can be fitted with a 75mm cannon, you have long ranged artillery like the AS90 that shoots further can be remote operated, is capable of traversing a deep lake and so on....

tanks aren't even good for ramming into buildings, for that your better off with a tow missile and you can mount them on a quad trailer or jeep.... better off ditching tanks really

surface ships are a whole other matter though if you could build one that was submersible capable of stealth running being heavily armoured and still able to surface and be armed like a battleship then its would be better, carriers are great so long as nothing gets too close to them so they need battleships and other escorts to provide it with help the real problem is being able to securely link up the entire interdiction capabilities, a problem that once overcome could be scaled down to once again make tanks worthwhile although they would need to become bigger and more capable as well....

really tanks are pretty much screwed unless your talking about unconventional warfare and then it becomes a great thing for the guys inside (so long as they buttoned up before the nbc threat was deployed) and even that has its problems cos its only good for a few days at a time ..... there just big loud and showy and ok in certain situations 

Nox is displaying some Suomi pride I see.

Vid on the largest tanks ever designed, from those that were actually built(like the Char 2C above) and those that never left the drawing board, such as the Landkruezer P.1000



The AML is an armored scout car/light reconnaissance vehicle Larry-3

Hate to break it to ya, but the later-generation Panzers were following up on a proud heritage.
And that's because the early generation sucked to the point you could penetrate it with a STANDART ISSUE VZ.24 RIFLE.




I laughed. They better have at least 2000mm effective versus KE AND HEAT on the front of that turret, because the angling is something the Germans learned simply DOESN'T WORK.

The Russian Sprut-SDM1 is an amphibious air-deployable tank with a 125 mm cannon that is going to be introduced this year.