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Post by link2twenty on Jun 29, 2017 11:16:15 GMT
At least we got some closure. Studio closure.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 11:17:44 GMT
Interesting...why he would not know the people that contributed to the development of that game? BW should just tell us what are their plans for this game so we can avoid this psycho-drama and move on.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 29, 2017 11:17:51 GMT
Ian S. Frazier doesn't know who Sinclair Networks is. I'm certain this new is false. A perfect example of "unclear lying".
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Post by abaris on Jun 29, 2017 11:18:43 GMT
Well RIP, no reason for me to be in this sub-forum anymore if ME is truly dead. I don't know who those guys are, they seem very fishy, but what they say seem to make sense. Guess I will be in the Anthem sub-forum from now on. These guys certainly aren't fishy. They are third party developers for the biggest names in the gaming industry. The go to guys when the developing company is short on manpower and resources. If the message itself was legit, only time will tell.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 29, 2017 11:21:04 GMT
Yeah I don't see it either it's almost as if they've disappeared Sinclair is an Austrian company, based in Vienna. In a previous link someone provided their portfolio. They did a lot of work for AAA titles in the last decade. Such as the complete FO series and Assassin's Creed among others. As far as MEA is concerned, they were involved in post production and other tasks. The facebook post was removed. That's what some magazines report, while they're still showing the screenshot. Obviously someone in the company went on a rant and someone else made clear that this kind of news wasn't a wise business decision and took it down. Might also be that some clients of theirs have voiced their concern over them spilling the beans on a meeting they supposedly had. Yeah I've heard of them but I agree it sounds like someones gone on to a bit of a rant so I'm not entirely convinced. Hopefully Bioware clears this up soon because the longer this goes on the more bashing they'll end up taking and it'll only hurt any future projects they want to make.
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Post by cypherj on Jun 29, 2017 11:26:55 GMT
Ian S. Frazier doesn't know who Sinclair Networks is. I'm certain this new is false. They did work on ME:A, and they work with other major gaming developers, how can he not know who they are?
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 29, 2017 11:28:50 GMT
Ian S. Frazier doesn't know who Sinclair Networks is. I'm certain this new is false. They did work on ME:A, and they work with other major gaming developers, how can he not know who they are? Because company probably doesn't even exist, look at my above post.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 11:30:21 GMT
If there is one thing that damage the personal image of people or institutions is uncertainty. People will simply go mad without answers and invent all the theories of this world. BW better provide some answers because leaving people without them will hurt their games more than any admission on changed DLC plan. Being straightforward helps a long way in creating trust between people.
I'm in the group of guys that despite everything enjoyed ME:A and I'm all for more SP content being released though I want to know if they plan to do so. I think that regardless of their intention to realese DLCs or not, it's only fair to their fans to let them know if they should expect more SP content or not. Avoiding the question is not going to help but will further worsen the situation potentially damaging the image of their other games. If they have bad news for their fans, it's better they release them asap before the tension (and hate) will grow out of proportion.
All in all must admit that BW PR department sucks.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 29, 2017 11:33:00 GMT
If there is one thing that damage the personal image of people or institutions is uncertainty. People will simply go mad without answers and invent all the theories of this world. BW better provide some answers because leaving people without them will hurt their games more than any admission on changed DLC plan. Being straightforward helps a long way in creating trust between people. I'm in the group of guys that despite everything enjoyed ME:A and I'm all for more SP content being released though I want to know if they plan to do so. I think that regardless of their intention to realese DLCs or not, it's only fair to their fans to let them know if they should expect more SP content or not. Avoiding the question is not going to help but will further worsen the situation potentially damaging the image of their other games. If they have bad news for their fans, it's better they release them asap before the tension (and hate) will grow out of proportion. All in all must admit that BW PR department sucks.I wholeheartedly agree. Bioware, bring Silverman back! I don't care DICE pays him better, just get him back.
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Post by cypherj on Jun 29, 2017 11:33:07 GMT
They did work on ME:A, and they work with other major gaming developers, how can he not know who they are? Because company probably doesn't even exist, look at my above post. What do you mean they don't exist. These are the company credits for ME:A. Mass Effect: Andromeda (2017 Video Game) Company Credits Showing all 5 company credits Jump to: Production Companies (2) | Distributors (1) | Other Companies (2) Production Companies
Bioware Sinclair Networks
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They exist, and they worked on Andromeda.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 29, 2017 11:35:22 GMT
They did work on ME:A, and they work with other major gaming developers, how can he not know who they are? Because company probably doesn't even exist, look at my above post. They don't exist ? OMG. This is getting mad.... So who did all the patches for MEA ?? SANTA CLAUS ????
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Post by vonuber on Jun 29, 2017 11:36:07 GMT
What's depressing to me is how happy certain people are about there potentially being no more SP content for ME:A.
What a bizarre thing to rejoice about, especially if you hate ME:A so much that you spend all your time on here telling people how you hate it, change you avatar to demonstrate it, and yet would have no intention of buying the DLC anyway.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 29, 2017 11:38:03 GMT
Because company probably doesn't even exist, look at my above post. What do you mean they don't exist. These are the company credits for ME:A. Mass Effect: Andromeda (2017 Video Game) Company Credits Showing all 5 company credits Jump to: Production Companies (2) | Distributors (1) | Other Companies (2) Production Companies
Bioware Sinclair Networks
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They exist, and they worked on Andromeda. Source on these credits.
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Post by Gileadan on Jun 29, 2017 11:38:52 GMT
What do you mean they don't exist. These are the company credits for ME:A. Mass Effect: Andromeda (2017 Video Game) Company Credits Showing all 5 company credits Jump to: Production Companies (2) | Distributors (1) | Other Companies (2) Production Companies
Bioware Sinclair Networks
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They exist, and they worked on Andromeda. Source on these credits. The formatting suggests IMDB.
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What do you mean they don't exist. These are the company credits for ME:A. Mass Effect: Andromeda (2017 Video Game) Company Credits Showing all 5 company credits Jump to: Production Companies (2) | Distributors (1) | Other Companies (2) Production Companies
Bioware Sinclair Networks
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They exist, and they worked on Andromeda. Source on these credits. www.imdb.com/title/tt4876864/
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 29, 2017 11:40:29 GMT
What do you mean they don't exist. These are the company credits for ME:A. Mass Effect: Andromeda (2017 Video Game) Company Credits Showing all 5 company credits Jump to: Production Companies (2) | Distributors (1) | Other Companies (2) Production Companies
Bioware Sinclair Networks
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Electronic Arts (EA) (2016) (World-wide) (theatrical)
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Sinclair Networks (network management) Sinclair Networks (post-production)
They exist, and they worked on Andromeda. Source on these credits. IMDB.
How/where do you get your information? How accurate/reliable is it? The information in IMDb comes from various sources. While we actively gather information from and verify items with studios and filmmakers, the bulk of our information is submitted by people in the industry and visitors like you.
But I'm sure it's not reliable for you. Another crap after Kotaku, Jason and Sinclair Networks...
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 29, 2017 11:40:48 GMT
Because company probably doesn't even exist, look at my above post. They don't exist ? OMG. This is getting mad.... So who did all the patches for MEA ?? SANTA CLAUS ????Then I guess Vienna's Business listing and The Millenium Tower floor planners are in on conspiracy with me to smear SN.
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Post by jaegerbane on Jun 29, 2017 11:41:39 GMT
What's depressing to me is how happy certain people are about there potentially being no more SP content for ME:A. What a bizarre thing to rejoice about, especially if you hate ME:A so much that you spend all your time on here telling people how you hate it, change you avatar to demonstrate it, and yet would have no intention of buying the DLC anyway. Pretty much. Tbh, there's enough about this that has me raising an eyebrow - the company clearly exists but this doesn;t sound like a corporate message and more like a guy undergoing a ragequit. It may be correct (much as Jason's article may be) but I wouldn't expect to hear news like this from a random facebook page of a developer who isn't even responsible for said DLC. It's a bit like hearing Digital Homicide report that the Unreal Engine 4 is being discontinued. Regardless, some people's reactions have been a bit weird. I guess BotW isn't fun enough to hold attention away from shitposting, after all.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 29, 2017 11:42:44 GMT
They don't exist ? OMG. This is getting mad.... So who did all the patches for MEA ?? SANTA CLAUS ????Then I guess Vienna's Business listing and The Millenium Tower floor planners are in on conspiracy with me to smear SN. I'm sure you know better. Shame you are not working as a private detective, any cold case will be resolved in a matter of hours. No one did patches for MEA. They just came out from nowhere.
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Post by jaegerbane on Jun 29, 2017 11:43:10 GMT
They don't exist ? OMG. This is getting mad.... So who did all the patches for MEA ?? SANTA CLAUS ????Then I guess Vienna's Business listing and The Millenium Tower floor planners are in on conspiracy with me to smear SN. One more comment like that Croatsky and I'll have you taken off the conspiracy and sent to explain yourself to the Illuminati elders.
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Post by shinobiwan on Jun 29, 2017 11:43:42 GMT
What? Sinclair Networks was referenced in previous articles going all the way back to the facial animation fiasco. Him saying he doesn't know of them isn't credible. He was probably banking on the public not knowing the connection, but he was wrong. Also, your attempt to dictate people's opinions is really distasteful. Brown-nosing the devs and leveraging your mod status at the expense of your user base isn't a good strategy. Ian hasn't posted here in quite a while. Not dictating opinions, simply not allowing members to make unsubstantiated accusations about other members. Time will tell about the truth of it, but right now we are not disparaging each other here. 'Probably' is not sufficient. And please get your facts straight before making assertions about what other members are doing. Ian last posted a couple of days ago. You're not allowing posters to express disbelief about the statements of a Bioware developer based solely on your view of the person's credibility on the forums. Evidence of Sinclair Networks' work on MEA has been out for a while. They're officially credited on IMDB ffs. Links below. This is an Internet forum, one that your colleagues founded at least partly on the idea that oBSN was stifling criticism of the company. Bad look to be doing that again. www.imdb.com/company/co0623436/www.imdb.com/title/tt4876864/combined?mode=desktop (Patrick Sinclair, the principal of the company, credited as production supervisor) Edit: other posters beat me to it.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Jun 29, 2017 11:43:55 GMT
Then I guess Vienna's Business listing and The Millenium Tower floor planners are in on conspiracy with me to smear SN. One more comment like that Croatsky and I'll have you taken off the conspiracy and sent to explain yourself to the Illuminati elders. I already got very bad feelings about him.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 29, 2017 11:45:55 GMT
IMDB is a like Wikipedia. Anyone can edit it and there's inconsistency quality moderation on that site. And unlike Wikipedia articles, IMDB does not show references nor their sources. IMDB simply can not be used as a source. However, Vienna Business listing and The Millenium Tower floor plan are however are credible sources. And in both of these places, SN doesn't exist.
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Post by Serza on Jun 29, 2017 11:47:15 GMT
What's depressing to me is how happy certain people are about there potentially being no more SP content for ME:A. What a bizarre thing to rejoice about, especially if you hate ME:A so much that you spend all your time on here telling people how you hate it, change you avatar to demonstrate it, and yet would have no intention of buying the DLC anyway. It seems to me like those kinds of people might become future Darwin's Prize candidates.
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