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Post by Sokemis on Sept 27, 2019 23:31:24 GMT
So the French don't include the S? Interesting. If I remember right, with French words there's something about what letter the word ends in. There is one group of letters that would be pronounced if they are the last letter, and another group of letters (including S) that are ignored if they are the last letter. But then again I barely passed French with a 67, so I'm no expert by any means, lol.
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Post by sandwichtern on Sept 28, 2019 8:36:24 GMT
^^Yep, if we went by the French pronunciation rules one could assume that Orlais would be pronounced as [ɔʁle:] instead the version they use in English [ɔɹlei]. As the official languages of Canada are English and French, I'd assume the English speaking Canadians have at least rudimentary knowledge of the pronunciation rules of French, either having learned French at school or at least having interacted with French speaking Canadians. Thus they'd know about the silent "s" in words ending with the letter s (1). The differences then would be between how the two languages pronounce "r" sound and how they handle vowel sounds. Judging by the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) chart of French, the English speakers are taught the long "e" sound of French [e:] - that is seen words with the letter é and some words with letters ai - with the English approximation of word "may" [mei], and those with less skill in foreign languages would end up forgetting to get rid of the "i" sound when pronouncing these kinds of French words. (Notice also the word for inhabitants of Orlais, Orlesians, which could also suggest the correct vowel sound being "e" in French, but where the "e" is then pronounced with the English rules were e is often [ i ] instead .)
However, it seems that in the French language version of Dragon Age Orlais and Orlesian language are treated as totally separate from French and have little connection to the pronunciation in the English version. First, it's actually spelled Orlaïs, where the two dots on top the letter i mean the letter is to be treated as a start of a new syllable and not part of a diphthong ai. Thus the vowel sound is supposed to be pronounced [ɑi] instead of [e:]. Secondly, at least in the French language version of the tavern songs, the final "s" isn't silent.
See below the lyrics of the French version of Empress of Fire, Impératrice:Impératrice, C'est ton règne que nous honorons Par cette chanson, dans tout OrlaïsIf you scroll down this link you'll find both the lyrics and a Youtube video of the song. Orlaïs [ɔʁlɑis] is pronounced at 0:07-0:08. The singer is a Russian-American Elizaveta Khripounova who also sang the English versions of the bard songs. I have no idea of her mastery of French, so you could argue the "s" sound in Orlaïs is in fact a case of mispronunciation. 😕 (1) The silent final "s" happens when the word in question isn't followed by a word starting with a vowel sound (see: nous avons ("we have") [nus avɔ̃]).
*crosses one's fingers that Proboards supports the letters of the Phonetic Alphabet and they end up visible*
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Post by House Targaryen on Sept 29, 2019 22:55:16 GMT
Yeah..... it's a French word so it's pronounced that way. Same reason Des Moines, Iowa is pronounced duh-moyn and not dess-moins. LOL yes. Michigan is littered with French named places that people don't pronounce correctly.
Mackinac. Not its not Mack in AK, its MAK-in-aw Charlevoix. Not Shar le voo IK its SHARL-ə-voy
Maybe its a Northern thing but we pronounce Des Moines as deh-moyn
French is a weird language with a lot of unused letters being pronounced like German
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Post by Iddy on Oct 16, 2019 18:43:03 GMT
Whenever it is time to judge someone, I have the Inquisitor change into the Winter palace outfit first.
It just feels more professional to dress appropriately during work.
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Post by Iddy on Oct 17, 2019 13:23:30 GMT
I think I made my Inquisitor too perfect. The only flaw I did give her was being a wide eyed idealist, but that isn't really a bad thing and she outgrows it later anyway.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Oct 17, 2019 14:21:45 GMT
I think I made my Inquisitor too perfect. The only flaw I did give her was being a wide eyed idealist, but that isn't really a bad thing and she outgrows it later anyway. have them make deliberate "mistakes" (I'm air quoting here because it depends on your personal opinions whether you view them as such)
like...having them drink from the Well of Sorrows (thus potentially enslaving themselves to Mythal/Solas for all eternity) making peace in Orlais (Celene+Briala+Gaspard) which according to the epilogue is the worst ending for Orlais because they keep bickering and what not
those are just a few things I plan on doing with my canon Inquisitor, it gives her flaws but not major glaring ones that go against my own morals and the personality I gave her
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Post by Catilina on Oct 17, 2019 14:47:43 GMT
making peace in Orlais (Celene+Briala+Gaspard) which according to the epilogue is the worst ending for Orlais because they keep bickering and what not The public truce is the best end of Orlais.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Oct 17, 2019 15:23:16 GMT
making peace in Orlais (Celene+Briala+Gaspard) which according to the epilogue is the worst ending for Orlais because they keep bickering and what not The public truce is the best end of Orlais. not according to the epilogue unless by best end you mean "screw Orlais"
Found on the wikia according to the wikia the other parts about whether or not it is a good ending is tied with court approval and certain War table missions
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Post by Gileadan on Oct 17, 2019 15:33:14 GMT
I don't see it as the "cooperation ending", it's sentencing three awful people to spending the rest of their lives in each other's company.
In the spirit of the language discussion above: L'enfer, c'est les autres.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 17, 2019 16:22:47 GMT
The public truce is the best end of Orlais. not according to the epilogue unless by best end you mean "screw Orlais"
Found on the wikia according to the wikia the other parts about whether or not it is a good ending is tied with court approval and certain War table missions
I said "end OF Orlais" .
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Oct 17, 2019 16:39:00 GMT
not according to the epilogue unless by best end you mean "screw Orlais"
Found on the wikia according to the wikia the other parts about whether or not it is a good ending is tied with court approval and certain War table missions
I said "end OF Orlais" . ah forgive me, I must've read over it (happens sometimes)
in that case you're right, but hey...it's Orlais, no one but the Orlesians care about it
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Post by Iddy on Oct 17, 2019 16:53:31 GMT
I don't see it as the "cooperation ending", it's sentencing three awful people to spending the rest of their lives in each other's company. In the spirit of the language discussion above: L'enfer, c'est les autres. Rest of their lives is too optimistic. Sooner or later, one of them would find a way to turn the table.
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Post by melbella on Oct 19, 2019 0:05:45 GMT
I don't see it as the "cooperation ending", it's sentencing three awful people to spending the rest of their lives in each other's company. Which makes it the best ending. The sooner they all kill each other, the better.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 19, 2019 1:12:11 GMT
Celene and Briala working together definitely seems like the best of the options for the most people. Benefits the elves, the Game still ends, Celene creates a bunch of things that helps commoners, etc.
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Post by Iddy on Oct 19, 2019 1:57:39 GMT
Celene and Briala working together definitely seems like the best of the options for the most people. Benefits the elves, the Game still ends, Celene creates a bunch of things that helps commoners, etc. Of course, but consider the cons: Celene is alive.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 19, 2019 2:03:08 GMT
Celene and Briala working together definitely seems like the best of the options for the most people. Benefits the elves, the Game still ends, Celene creates a bunch of things that helps commoners, etc. Of course, but consider the cons: Celene is alive. Well no matter what one of them will be alive, and Celene isn’t as bad as Gaspard.
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Post by Iddy on Oct 19, 2019 12:12:27 GMT
Of course, but consider the cons: Celene is alive. Well no matter what one of them will be alive, and Celene isn’t as bad as Gaspard. The guy is pretty nasty,but can't say he's ever commited genocide.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Oct 19, 2019 13:42:36 GMT
I just put Briala in charge. Gaspard may not be dead, but being under the thumb of an elf is probably worse than death for him anyway.
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Post by Buckeldemon on Oct 19, 2019 14:00:30 GMT
I just put Briala in charge. Gaspard may not be dead, but being under the thumb of an elf is probably worse than death for him anyway.
Yeah. My "elven" reasoning for Briala + Gaspard puppet is basically that with this setup, she might influence a few things, while Celene/Briala might just enter a relation with them happily ****ing each other and Briala loosing perspective again, i.e. going "I don't care" on alienage purge day. Furthermore, if the need arises, this connection is easier to depose as Gaspard appears to have more detractors than Celene and Briala is... well, an elf.
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Post by Noxluxe on Nov 7, 2019 9:49:46 GMT
I've always had a hard time with those kingmaker quests in RPGs. The games never give you enough real information to feel like you actually know what you're doing, picking other people's leaders because you impressed them by killing that guy real good. Or because you spotted a deer statue behind a potted plant.
I feel like in those scenarios, supporting the most conservative and status-quo protective dudes and dudettes who would probably have won anyway is the most responsible thing to do because at least that way you're not impulsively tearing countries apart based on two minutes of exposition "research".
Trying to engineer a revolution based on essentially nonexistent understanding of the cultures involved isn't something any of my characters have ever felt qualified to do. At least not if they actually wished the people well.
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Post by Iddy on Nov 7, 2019 11:38:50 GMT
I've always had a hard time with those kingmaker quests in RPGs. The games never give you enough real information to feel like you actually know what you're doing, picking other people's leaders because you impressed them by killing that guy real good. Or because you spotted a deer statue behind a potted plant. I feel like in those scenarios, supporting the most conservative and status-quo protective dudes and dudettes who would probably have won anyway is the most responsible thing to do because at least that way you're not impulsively tearing countries apart based on two minutes of exposition "research". Trying to engineer a revolution based on essentially nonexistent understanding of the cultures involved isn't something any of my characters have ever felt qualified to do. At least not if they actually wished the people well. That was pretty much my Warden's reasoning for supporting Anora. Fighting the Blight comes first and that can't be delayed by yet another political dispute, like the one he dealt with in Orzammar. It is just much simpler to restore the queen to her throne than to raise up an opponent.
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Post by Noxluxe on Nov 7, 2019 12:20:39 GMT
I've always had a hard time with those kingmaker quests in RPGs. The games never give you enough real information to feel like you actually know what you're doing, picking other people's leaders because you impressed them by killing that guy real good. Or because you spotted a deer statue behind a potted plant. I feel like in those scenarios, supporting the most conservative and status-quo protective dudes and dudettes who would probably have won anyway is the most responsible thing to do because at least that way you're not impulsively tearing countries apart based on two minutes of exposition "research". Trying to engineer a revolution based on essentially nonexistent understanding of the cultures involved isn't something any of my characters have ever felt qualified to do. At least not if they actually wished the people well. That was pretty much my Warden's reasoning for supporting Anora. Fighting the Blight comes first and that can't be delayed by yet another political dispute, like the one he dealt with in Orzammar. It is just much simpler to restore the queen to her throne than to raise up an opponent. Same reason I usually support Celene, even though I can't stand her. I need Orlais stable and predictable. Nobody has the time for Gaspard's aggressive restructuring in the middle of a crisis, and I wouldn't trust that court of oversized kindergardeners to toe the line with an elf in charge, not in a million years. Better to just leave them all in exactly the positions they started in, only knowing that you won't tolerate any more clownishness until Corywhatshisface is out of the picture. Gutting Briala right in front of them and the entire court usually gets the point across.
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Post by Iddy on Nov 18, 2019 11:41:55 GMT
I've never done a astrarium puzzle. Ever. And I doubt I could if I tried.
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Post by Iddy on Dec 13, 2019 14:46:03 GMT
When I see a fictional character that acts like my Warden, I like to imagine that's him.
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Post by Sonya on Dec 13, 2019 16:07:31 GMT
DAO Can't stand Leliana in any DA game. Irritates me always. In DAO talk to her and do her quests, but only because of exp. In DAI ignore her totally. In evil PT executed Alistair - thought would be upset as kinda like this character, but nope, no reaction at all, only "Good riddance".
DA2 Beth started to annoy me a little. When saw in the Deep roads she wanted to die instead of becoming a GW and use magic for the greater good w/o any fear, my only thought was" What a weak person!" (Although I understand her). Started to play w/o Anders (so no healer PTs on Nightmare mod). Difficult at first but now got used to it. Can't stand him. Always fight the Arishok in single battle because of my stupid pride, but think that it is one of he most stupid fights in DAU. Stupid pride. DA2 combat system with tactics is the best and I love it to the death.
DAI Can't stand Solas and want to kill him ASAP, althouhg I understand his motives at the same time (just can't accept that). Usually just ignore him. Want a full Krem romance. Want a full Harding romance. Can't stand rogues in DAI, devs just spoiled them.
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