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Post by tacsear on Jul 14, 2017 17:47:12 GMT
I've been thinking about which class is more suited for Hawke and each kinda has their own strengths. Mage is clearly BWs canon but rogue makes really sense too. Which is your preference?
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Post by Catilina on Jul 14, 2017 17:59:13 GMT
I mostly prefer to break the "canon", but in this case, I go with Bioware's canon: mage.
And warrior for Bethany. I rarely play as rogue, despite that I also rarely play as a lawful character, and I like picking locks (hacking terminals), but it's not a stealth game.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Jul 14, 2017 19:23:34 GMT
I love mage because it's insanely fun and it makes me feel like I've got more of a stake in the game's conflicts (and not just vs the Templars - wiping the floor with the qunari as a saarebas was extremely satisfying). It made Legacy rather poignant as well.
Rogue is good too though. I like the idea of Carver, Bethany and Hawke as fighter, mage and thief and I think rogue fits really well for a Hawke who worked with Athenril. They have some really fun talents too (Vendetta, Decoy, Archer's Lance).
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Post by flyingovertrout on Jul 14, 2017 19:34:08 GMT
Rogue,imo. Smuggling for Athenril in the beginning, super wise-ass rogue. And marketing (nor for that matter, default world states) =/= canon. Bioware does not have a canon warden/Hawke/Inq.
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Post by Catilina on Jul 14, 2017 20:24:34 GMT
I like to be sellsword (sellstaff), and finally, to kill Meeran. Perhaps mage Hawke's not canon, but very good for the Mage–Templar war, because this more personal especially if Carver's Templar (this is the only acceptable reason to chose Meredith). Warrior/rogue Hawke can be totally unconcerned, if Bethany's dead or Grey Warden, but if Bethany's Circle Mage, warrior/rogue Hawke can be more involved, than mage Hawke, who can give a shit to politics.
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Post by tacsear on Jul 14, 2017 20:27:44 GMT
I like to be sellsword (sellstaff), and finally, to kill Meeran. I don't kill Meeran because he talks funny
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Post by Catilina on Jul 14, 2017 20:33:08 GMT
I like to be sellsword (sellstaff), and finally, to kill Meeran. I don't kill Meeran because he talks funny But you must kill the Fereldan noble, for some coins...
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Post by fylimar on Jul 14, 2017 21:08:52 GMT
Rogue is by far my favorite class for Hawke. Somehow the game makes the most sense with a rogue for me.
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Post by tacsear on Jul 14, 2017 21:42:35 GMT
I don't kill Meeran because he talks funny But you must kill the Fereldan noble, for some coins... No you don't, you can let him go and lie to Meeran
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Post by Catilina on Jul 14, 2017 21:50:04 GMT
But you must kill the Fereldan noble, for some coins... No you don't, you can let him go and lie to Meeran Sometimes. But not with a provocative Hawke. As I said: I like the direct, honest solutions. He wants to die by Hawke's hand. Hawke not really insist to this...
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Post by themikefest on Jul 15, 2017 3:05:38 GMT
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Post by HYR on Jul 15, 2017 3:56:50 GMT
Rogue, obviously. Don't believe me? Tell me who's supposed to unlock that chest in the prologue while escaping Lothering, the one that comes just before the ogre scene. A-ha, see!?
But in all seriousness, the story best suits a mage.
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Post by Liadan on Jul 16, 2017 15:29:36 GMT
Mage is my favorite class for Hawke. It`s fun to play, it gives a more personal connection with the mage/templar war and it has Carver.
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Jul 16, 2017 20:18:44 GMT
I think it makes more sense for Hawke to be a warrior or a rogue than a mage. They work with Cullen long before they have any protection from the Templars, and then they work directly with Meredith, who knows better than anyone why mages are in the Circle and goes even crazier with the threat mages represent than it truly justifies. Playing either warrior or rogue makes that a bit easier to swallow.
I'd tried to make sense of that by headcanoning that Varric was exaggerating how obvious Hawke made their magic, but since DAI isn't a narrative told by Varric I'm forced to conclude that's not a thing.
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Post by XJlock on Jul 16, 2017 20:29:38 GMT
The mage class.
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Post by Catilina on Jul 16, 2017 20:43:27 GMT
I think it makes more sense for Hawke to be a warrior or a rogue than a mage. They work with Cullen long before they have any protection from the Templars, and then they work directly with Meredith, who knows better than anyone why mages are in the Circle and goes even crazier with the threat mages represent than it truly justifies. Playing either warrior or rogue makes that a bit easier to swallow. I'd tried to make sense of that by headcanoning that Varric was exaggerating how obvious Hawke made their magic, but since DAI isn't a narrative told by Varric I'm forced to conclude that's not a thing. To play as a warrior, with Bethany in the Circle, Cullen and Meredith were more irritating than as Mage, with Grey Warden or Templar Carver. As mage was fun to tease them, as Warrior I can imagine that Hawke wants to choke them with his bare hand... So: as Warrior/Rogue the story can be personal, but need Bethany in the Circle, or/and Anders as lover/close friend. (Merrill as elf is invisible in the Alienage – she said.) And I don't think that Hawke uses his/her magic openly before the Templars. Mage Hawke doesn't behave as an escaped Circle Mage, s/he was never captive, probably has more confidence and less humility. S/he may have been persecuted, but never got caught.
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Post by HYR on Jul 17, 2017 1:29:18 GMT
I think it makes more sense for Hawke to be a warrior or a rogue than a mage. They work with Cullen long before they have any protection from the Templars, and then they work directly with Meredith, who knows better than anyone why mages are in the Circle and goes even crazier with the threat mages represent than it truly justifies. Playing either warrior or rogue makes that a bit easier to swallow. I'd tried to make sense of that by headcanoning that Varric was exaggerating how obvious Hawke made their magic, but since DAI isn't a narrative told by Varric I'm forced to conclude that's not a thing.
Meredith is not too hard to explain away. She got to him too late. He was rich/influential by the time they met, and became the city's hero immediately afterwards (much to her dismay, if we judge by her look when she finds out about the Arishok).
But yeah, Cullen is an issue. I guess you could say that he has a very, verrrrryyy one-track mind, but that's still pretty silly.
I wouldn't say that issue alone shifts things in favor of warrior or rogue Hawke, though (even with rogue being my favorite and canon), and mage!Hawke still arguably has the most personal stake in the game's central theme.
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Post by tacsear on Jul 17, 2017 8:07:43 GMT
I think it makes more sense for Hawke to be a warrior or a rogue than a mage. They work with Cullen long before they have any protection from the Templars, and then they work directly with Meredith, who knows better than anyone why mages are in the Circle and goes even crazier with the threat mages represent than it truly justifies. Playing either warrior or rogue makes that a bit easier to swallow. I'd tried to make sense of that by headcanoning that Varric was exaggerating how obvious Hawke made their magic, but since DAI isn't a narrative told by Varric I'm forced to conclude that's not a thing.
Meredith is not too hard to explain away. She got to him too late. He was rich/influential by the time they met, and became the city's hero immediately afterwards (much to her dismay, if we judge by her look when she finds out about the Arishok).
But yeah, Cullen is an issue. I guess you could say that he has a very, verrrrryyy one-track mind, but that's still pretty silly.
I wouldn't say that issue alone shifts things in favor of warrior or rogue Hawke, though (even with rogue being my favorite and canon), and mage!Hawke still arguably has the most personal stake in the game's central theme.
I don't think Meredith would've cared how rich you were, she lost her reasoning and would've taken Hawke in I disagree on how mage Hawke has more stake in the events. Trying to protect Bethany always seemed more important than saving the people you have no relations with in a hopeless battle
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Post by Catilina on Jul 17, 2017 10:12:44 GMT
Meredith is not too hard to explain away. She got to him too late. He was rich/influential by the time they met, and became the city's hero immediately afterwards (much to her dismay, if we judge by her look when she finds out about the Arishok). But yeah, Cullen is an issue. I guess you could say that he has a very, verrrrryyy one-track mind, but that's still pretty silly.
I wouldn't say that issue alone shifts things in favor of warrior or rogue Hawke, though (even with rogue being my favorite and canon), and mage!Hawke still arguably has the most personal stake in the game's central theme.
I don't think Meredith would've cared how rich you were, she lost her reasoning and would've taken Hawke in I disagree on how mage Hawke has more stake in the events. Trying to protect Bethany always seemed more important than saving the people you have no relations with in a hopeless battleAs I wrote, I agree with you, that warrior/rogue Hawke can feel very deeply, but Mage Hawke always closely related to the story. Warrior/rogue Hawke only if Bethay's Circle mage (or because of Anders). If Bethany's dead or Grey Warden, only a possible love relationship (or a very close friendship) with Anders is the reason to feel personal. Not excluded, that Malcolm's/Bethany's memory and high sense of justice generate compassion toward the Mages; at the end I think, too hard to not, because Meredith madness jeopardized the whole city, not only the mages (Acft3, opening scene), and Meredith declared, that wants to kill every mages in the Circle. (Another weird thing for me: most people consider cruelty to listen to Cullen in the DAO, and accept the annulment of the Calenhad Tower, and can separate in mind Uldred from the other mages, but consider a good idea to executing Kirkwall mages due some idiots and Anders.) But imaginable, that the eternal run and hide frustrated Hawke, and just wants to leave his/her inherited fate. As mage, s/he can try it, but can't do it (s/he's a mage, no matter s/he want to be a mage or not), as warrior/rogue, s/he can. So: I suppose that if there is no Bethany and/or Anders, mage Hawke related the story better. I know: not every mages thinking on the same way, and perhaps people can close their eyes, even if they pursued their kind, but I can't imagine, that completely indifferent. Even if mage Hawke think, that for Carver or for Kirkwall(?) can turn against his/her kind, and supports a madwoman (I did it). But I can't imagine, that s/he can do it without any doubt. Even if s/he wants to be totally objective, s/he can't. Whatever decide Mage Hawke, the story stays personal. Another reason that mage Hawke is the best for the story: the absurdity of the whole story, that in Kirkwall, the center of the Templar Order, due the collision of circumstances, a mage can be the second most important wo/man.
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Post by HYR on Jul 17, 2017 20:20:30 GMT
Meredith is not too hard to explain away. She got to him too late. He was rich/influential by the time they met, and became the city's hero immediately afterwards (much to her dismay, if we judge by her look when she finds out about the Arishok).
But yeah, Cullen is an issue. I guess you could say that he has a very, verrrrryyy one-track mind, but that's still pretty silly.
I wouldn't say that issue alone shifts things in favor of warrior or rogue Hawke, though (even with rogue being my favorite and canon), and mage!Hawke still arguably has the most personal stake in the game's central theme.
I don't think Meredith would've cared how rich you were, she lost her reasoning and would've taken Hawke in I disagree on how mage Hawke has more stake in the events. Trying to protect Bethany always seemed more important than saving the people you have no relations with in a hopeless battle Yes, but Hawke was not merely rich, but popular. Meredith did try to kill Hawke in the end when she thought she cornered him/her, but look at what happened: her own men would not stand for it. Kirkwall nobility probably would have been even less sympathetic. Also, by "personal" I meant more for the word's definitions of "direct" and "immediate" rather than "concerning one's relationships/emotions."
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Post by Catilina on Jul 17, 2017 20:29:05 GMT
I don't think Meredith would've cared how rich you were, she lost her reasoning and would've taken Hawke in I disagree on how mage Hawke has more stake in the events. Trying to protect Bethany always seemed more important than saving the people you have no relations with in a hopeless battle Yes, but Hawke was not merely rich, but popular. Meredith did try to kill Hawke in the end when she thought she cornered him/her, but look at what happened: her own men would not stand for it. Kirkwall nobility probably would have been even less sympathetic. Also, by "personal" I meant more for the word's definitions of "direct" and "immediate" rather than "concerning one's relationships/emotions." This is clear, when Meredith rush into the room (late) after Hawke defeated the Arishok, and the noble herd almost "forced" to declare him/her to Champion of Kirkwall... (Meredith's face was priceless – good work on the face-expressions)
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Post by boxofscreaming on Jul 17, 2017 21:11:18 GMT
Mage is worth it just for Varric saying "You're a mage - you must know something about... weird shit."
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Post by tacsear on Jul 17, 2017 22:02:14 GMT
I don't think Meredith would've cared how rich you were, she lost her reasoning and would've taken Hawke in I disagree on how mage Hawke has more stake in the events. Trying to protect Bethany always seemed more important than saving the people you have no relations with in a hopeless battle Yes, but Hawke was not merely rich, but popular. Meredith did try to kill Hawke in the end when she thought she cornered him/her, but look at what happened: her own men would not stand for it. Kirkwall nobility probably would have been even less sympathetic. Also, by "personal" I meant more for the word's definitions of "direct" and "immediate" rather than "concerning one's relationships/emotions." I was talking about act 2, that's what did less sense as a mage Hawke. You're one of the most important people in Hightown and people obviously know you're a mage and it doesn't make sense that Meredith doesn't hear about it and there is nothing keeping her from taking you to the Gallows.
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Post by Catilina on Jul 17, 2017 22:05:01 GMT
Yes, but Hawke was not merely rich, but popular. Meredith did try to kill Hawke in the end when she thought she cornered him/her, but look at what happened: her own men would not stand for it. Kirkwall nobility probably would have been even less sympathetic. Also, by "personal" I meant more for the word's definitions of "direct" and "immediate" rather than "concerning one's relationships/emotions." I was talking about act 2, that's what did less sense as a mage Hawke. You're one of the most important people in Hightown and people obviously know you're a mage and it doesn't make sense that Meredith doesn't hear about it and there is nothing keeping her from taking you to the Gallows. Why obviously? Hawke never told to anyone that. (At end of the Act2 Meredith heard about it. But at this time, Hawke already popular. And: The whole city full of the Templars. Seems Hawke stays in his/her mansion. Meredith can keep her eyes on Hawke. If not too busy with cuddling of her big red sword...)
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Post by tacsear on Jul 17, 2017 22:19:12 GMT
I was talking about act 2, that's what did less sense as a mage Hawke. You're one of the most important people in Hightown and people obviously know you're a mage and it doesn't make sense that Meredith doesn't hear about it and there is nothing keeping her from taking you to the Gallows. Why obviously? Hawke never told to anyone that. (At end of the Act2 Meredith heard about it. But at this time, Hawke already popular. And: The whole city full of the Templars. Seems Hawke stay in his/her mansion. Meredith can keep his eyes on Hawke. If not too busy with cuddling of her big red sword...) What is unbelievable is that nobody noticed that. You're a person with high status and someone should've noticed it and ratted you out to Meredith
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