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Post by forgetmenot on Sept 20, 2016 7:05:16 GMT
I've completed the game about 4 times and although I love it, i always tend to go for the self righteous role, the one who goes out of their way to help as many people as poss but this time I've decided to do Dalish warden and I'm roleplaying him as a young, naive, shem hating youth who is basically ripped from his clan because he was sick. He refused to go and Duncan actually used the rite of conscription on us and said that he'd drag us kicking and screaming to ostagar if he needed to! So my Dalish elf is thrust into a world he didn't want to be apart of and he is a complete dick to anyone he meets. But in my head he feels justified. He blames humans for his fathers death and his mother abandoning him and he blames humans for telling them of the ruins where tamlen disappeared. He so full of hatred. And he is grieving! The loss of his best friend and the loss of his clan. And when he threatens the revered mother in lothering it was brilliant! Alistair panicked and grovelled, leliana was speechless and morrigan was clapping her hands saying "such fun!". These choices I've never ever done and it adds so much. Plus i feel like he's going to have his own character arch. Eventually he will open up and learn from these shems he travels with and even start considering them as friends and then he'll subsequently regret some of his decisions early on. But he's growing! Sorry, no one will prob read this but i had to get it out my head. I'm really enjoying it! Feels like a whole new game!
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Post by deadlydwarf on Sept 20, 2016 17:56:09 GMT
I've completed the game about 4 times and although I love it, i always tend to go for the self righteous role, the one who goes out of their way to help as many people as poss but this time I've decided to do Dalish warden and I'm roleplaying him as a young, naive, shem hating youth who is basically ripped from his clan because he was sick. He refused to go and Duncan actually used the rite of conscription on us and said that he'd drag us kicking and screaming to ostagar if he needed to! So my Dalish elf is thrust into a world he didn't want to be apart of and he is a complete dick to anyone he meets. But in my head he feels justified. He blames humans for his fathers death and his mother abandoning him and he blames humans for telling them of the ruins where tamlen disappeared. He so full of hatred. And he is grieving! The loss of his best friend and the loss of his clan. And when he threatens the revered mother in lothering it was brilliant! Alistair panicked and grovelled, leliana was speechless and morrigan was clapping her hands saying "such fun!". These choices I've never ever done and it adds so much. Plus i feel like he's going to have his own character arch. Eventually he will open up and learn from these shems he travels with and even start considering them as friends and then he'll subsequently regret some of his decisions early on. But he's growing! Sorry, no one will prob read this but i had to get it out my head. I'm really enjoying it! Feels like a whole new game! You got to love the depth they put into this game! Hard to blame the shems for telling him about the ruins when he and Tamlen forced the info out of them. At some point, he'll come to the realization that Duncan's recruitment saved his life which should help his evolution. For myself, I tend to do the "straight arrow" Warden more or less. Religious but not a fanatic and open to other ideas. The most rebellious my Dalish elf got was when she did smart-alecky responses during the telling of the "History of the Dales." When thinking about head canon would prompt the PC to favor recruiting Loghain even at the loss of Alistair, it would have to start with a PC who hates Duncan, thus preventing getting close to Alistair. I can think of a way for that to happen in the City Elf origin. Less so for the other origins. You definitely need to try all origins with a plausible head canon. Currently doing dwarf commoner; what a contrast from dwarf noble!
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Post by mousestalker on Sept 20, 2016 18:49:39 GMT
I've completed the game about 4 times and although I love it, i always tend to go for the self righteous role, the one who goes out of their way to help as many people as poss but this time I've decided to do Dalish warden and I'm roleplaying him as a young, naive, shem hating youth who is basically ripped from his clan because he was sick. He refused to go and Duncan actually used the rite of conscription on us and said that he'd drag us kicking and screaming to ostagar if he needed to! So my Dalish elf is thrust into a world he didn't want to be apart of and he is a complete dick to anyone he meets. But in my head he feels justified. He blames humans for his fathers death and his mother abandoning him and he blames humans for telling them of the ruins where tamlen disappeared. He so full of hatred. And he is grieving! The loss of his best friend and the loss of his clan. And when he threatens the revered mother in lothering it was brilliant! Alistair panicked and grovelled, leliana was speechless and morrigan was clapping her hands saying "such fun!". These choices I've never ever done and it adds so much. Plus i feel like he's going to have his own character arch. Eventually he will open up and learn from these shems he travels with and even start considering them as friends and then he'll subsequently regret some of his decisions early on. But he's growing! Sorry, no one will prob read this but i had to get it out my head. I'm really enjoying it! Feels like a whole new game! You got to love the depth they put into this game! Hard to blame the shems for telling him about the ruins when he and Tamlen forced the info out of them. At some point, he'll come to the realization that Duncan's recruitment saved his life which should help his evolution. For myself, I tend to do the "straight arrow" Warden more or less. Religious but not a fanatic and open to other ideas. The most rebellious my Dalish elf got was when she did smart-alecky responses during the telling of the "History of the Dales." When thinking about head canon would prompt the PC to favor recruiting Loghain even at the loss of Alistair, it would have to start with a PC who hates Duncan, thus preventing getting close to Alistair. I can think of a way for that to happen in the City Elf origin. Less so for the other origins. You definitely need to try all origins with a plausible head canon. Currently doing dwarf commoner; what a contrast from dwarf noble! Dwarf Commoner is one where I have dramatically altered my opinion. In some ways, it's one of the best. I played as a warrior who tolerated her mother, loved Rica and just wanted the Blight over (expedient, pragmatic choices ftw). This is not a spoiler, but a heads up: When you visit Orzammar and enter the palace for the first time, take Morrigan. Then tour the palace. Also, there's a tiny bit of dialogue for you in Witch Hunt and Sigrun has something to say in Awakening.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Sept 20, 2016 19:44:58 GMT
You got to love the depth they put into this game! Hard to blame the shems for telling him about the ruins when he and Tamlen forced the info out of them. At some point, he'll come to the realization that Duncan's recruitment saved his life which should help his evolution. For myself, I tend to do the "straight arrow" Warden more or less. Religious but not a fanatic and open to other ideas. The most rebellious my Dalish elf got was when she did smart-alecky responses during the telling of the "History of the Dales." When thinking about head canon would prompt the PC to favor recruiting Loghain even at the loss of Alistair, it would have to start with a PC who hates Duncan, thus preventing getting close to Alistair. I can think of a way for that to happen in the City Elf origin. Less so for the other origins. You definitely need to try all origins with a plausible head canon. Currently doing dwarf commoner; what a contrast from dwarf noble! Dwarf Commoner is one where I have dramatically altered my opinion. In some ways, it's one of the best. I played as a warrior who tolerated her mother, loved Rica and just wanted the Blight over (expedient, pragmatic choices ftw). This is not a spoiler, but a heads up: When you visit Orzammar and enter the palace for the first time, take Morrigan. Then tour the palace. Also, there's a tiny bit of dialogue for you in Witch Hunt and Sigrun has something to say in Awakening. I actually did take Morrigan with me to the palace! After meeting with Behlen, I went into Rica's room where I ran into their mother. After a nasty exchange, Morrigan said: "You and I have more in common than I thought!" Just for that, I'll agree to go kill Flemeth! lol
Other than that, I found the usual: the tunneling thieves, the dragon in the throne room, the sick woman. Did I miss something?
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Post by mousestalker on Sept 20, 2016 20:29:40 GMT
That was it. It's just one of the few times Morri actually empathizes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 22:56:48 GMT
My Dalish Hero (who's name is literally Hero Mahriel) is going around to places with Morrigan right now it's so much fun too...
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Post by deadlydwarf on Sept 21, 2016 1:24:38 GMT
Even if you hate her, Morrigan is a lot of fun!
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Post by forgetmenot on Sept 21, 2016 6:21:03 GMT
First time I've ever romanced Morrigan and i must say its surprisingly sweet so far. In my head, my warden was drawn to her the moment he set eyes on her which confused him no end, she's a shem! But he knew she was... different. And Morrigan's the same, she was given a task by her mother to manipulate and seduce the warden to create this old god baby but soon finds herself feeling more for him than she should. The scene where she gives him the ring is so cute, she talks really fast and for the first time ever this calm, collected woman is being.. awkward!
In my game, he's just starting to feel slight remorse for some of his earlier decisions. Its been a couple of months now and they've nearly gathered the needed allies and during his travels he's softened to his companions. He loves Leliana's stories and constantly badgers her to tell him one every night , he's really trying with Alistair although they still piss each other off and obviously his attraction to Morrigan is developing into something more. He's starting to be nicer to people he encounters, he's seen so much suffering on his travels that his young mind has been cracked wide open. The mage tower was an eye opener and when in the fade on his own he was actually terrified and realised that he actually cared for his fellow trapped companions and refused to lose them like he lost Tamlen.. He's also getting more comfortable with being a Grey Warden and is realising that what he is doing is honourable and his clan would be proud of him.
Sorry, haha as you can tell i love roleplaying my characters in my head. It helps me connect to my character and gives them more depth. I've thoroughly enjoyed watching my little elf actually develop over a period of time and have their personality change over the course of the game due to what they've experienced. Its been much more satisfying since all my other wardens had a set "must help all" kind of personality all the way through, they never really had a character arch themselves. I've decided that this warden is my "true" warden with his world state and that's what I'm going to carry over to the other games.
Such a great game when after 4 play throughs it can still hold as much interest as it did the first time. Love Dragon Age! And thanks all for your comments! I know I'm babbling on but i just adore this game, i hope they keep making them for as long as possible.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Sept 21, 2016 14:35:36 GMT
Sounds like you've set up the perfect story with which to go into the Witch Hunt DLC! Morrigan probably works well with your Warden because everywhere they go (except in Nature of the Beast), she is as much of an outsider as your Warden being both an apostate and non-Andrastian. Just curious as to how your Warden resolved "Nature of the Beast"?
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Post by bear43 on Sept 21, 2016 16:31:45 GMT
forgetmenot, you are finding just why so many of us enjoy the almost infinite replay-ability of Origins. Like many I think of the character traits and personality arc and then play the game to make the character fit that role. I have so many playthroughs (quit counting after 15) and yet I just started another playthrough with the dwarf casteless origin. Having a lot of fun with that one now.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Sept 21, 2016 17:33:27 GMT
forgetmenot, you are finding just why so many of us enjoy the almost infinite replay-ability of Origins. Like many I think of the character traits and personality arc and then play the game to make the character fit that role. I have so many playthroughs (quit counting after 15) and yet I just started another playthrough with the dwarf casteless origin. Having a lot of fun with that one now. I doing the dwarf commoner myself right now and have just returned to Orzammar and all I can say is I hope I'm able to run through everyone who called me "casteless" when I'm done! In case you haven't made your grand return, I won't give out any spoilers, but there will be a number of interesting reunions!
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Post by bear43 on Sept 21, 2016 19:05:07 GMT
Yes, I have made my return. Love basically rubbing it in some faces about being a Grey Warden. Not going all mean myself, though. I am playing this character more as one wanting to prove that even as casteless he is better at diplomacy than the nobles and even more open minded. Playing as a curious dwarf who wants to learn and know more about everything and being an advocate for major change... I find it rather enjoyable.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Sept 21, 2016 20:16:41 GMT
Yes, I have made my return. Love basically rubbing it in some faces about being a Grey Warden. Not going all mean myself, though. I am playing this character more as one wanting to prove that even as casteless he is better at diplomacy than the nobles and even more open minded. Playing as a curious dwarf who wants to learn and know more about everything and being an advocate for major change... I find it rather enjoyable. I haven't done anything malicious myself. Really, the only one I'd like to do something annoying to is that obnoxious scholar in the Hall of Paragons. To "promote change," one has to go with Behlen, but boy does he and all his toadies ooze slime... Still, you do have to side with your sister. (Although that mother of theirs really needs to be sent to the Deep Roads to live with Ruck.) It would've been fun to return to the "Proving", but I guess that's why that got slipped in at the beginning of the Origin story. The irony in this origin is that I will likely help Brother Berkel since Andrastianism could help undermine the caste system.. (My noble dwarf and Dalish elf were on the other side of this issue involving "change versus tradition.")
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Post by mousestalker on Sept 22, 2016 0:04:39 GMT
After you finish with Jarvia, you can still Prove yourself even if you have never started with the Harrowmount questline. Just talk to the Proving Master.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Sept 22, 2016 0:22:42 GMT
After you finish with Jarvia, you can still Prove yourself even if you have never started with the Harrowmount questline. Just talk to the Proving Master. Cool! I'll have to give that a shot!
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Post by forgetmenot on Sept 23, 2016 7:20:48 GMT
Sounds like you've set up the perfect story with which to go into the Witch Hunt DLC! Morrigan probably works well with your Warden because everywhere they go (except in Nature of the Beast), she is as much of an outsider as your Warden being both an apostate and non-Andrastian. Just curious as to how your Warden resolved "Nature of the Beast"? In the beginning he was resentful of what had happened to him so when he abandoned Redcliffe to its fate (he just kept thinking that if the roles were reversed the shems wouldn't help either) to seek aid elsewhere he goes straight to the nearest Dalish clan so at this point in his character arch he was still very much resentful of humans and after hearing what Zathrian went through he just attacked the werewolves and naturally sided with the elves. It felt much more natural for him to do this at this point in the story. As time has progressed and especially with the guidance of Wynne who reminds him of his keeper esp when she talks about what it means to be a grey warden and being the protector of all people he starts to realise his duty and the fact that not all humans are bad. He really regrets redcliffe so when he eventually went back he did everything in his power to save Connor, Isolde and Eamon
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Post by deadlydwarf on Sept 23, 2016 13:35:03 GMT
The last time I played as a Dalish elf, I resolved "Nature of the Beast" the same way. My first priority was to help a clan very much like my own, though I was open to listening to the Lady of the Forest, especially after talking to Danyla. The Lady said that she thought Zathrian could lift the curse. When I asked what if Zathrian can't lift the curse, that angry idiot Swift Runner shouted "We kill the Dalish!" Needless to say, the "parley" ended rather harshly. I've never abandoned Redcliffe since my Wardens always figured that would be necessary to win Arl Eamon's favor. Of course, your Warden was in a relationship with Morrigan and might have taken some of her recommendations too seriously! (I wonder how your Warden will react to Morrigan's comments when you meet with the Tevinter slavers in the alienage? ) lol Just curious how Redcliffe played out. I've heard when you return to "ruined Redcliffe," you run into zombie versions of the villagers you met as opposed to the generic undead.
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Post by forgetmenot on Sept 23, 2016 15:51:14 GMT
It wasn't nice when we returned. When i said that i wouldn't help them, Morrigan and Sten were like "very sensible, lets continue our journey and find aid else where" so my dalish warden figured that they'd just go round up all the allies using the treaties never really intending to go back to redcliffe since it seemed like a lost cause (of course i knew you have no choice but to save Eamon) so once id finished Orzammar we were heading in that direction anyway to get Shale so i decided in my head that Alistair had asked if we could go into redcliffe since we were passing anyway to see what had happened to the village and if the arl still lives etc and my warden had starting to regret his decision by this time anyway so agreed. I felt awful. Teagan shouted at us for abandoning everyone and i just wish there was an option to *hang head in shame*. And then we went into the castle and most of the villagers were zombies. Managed to save the blacksmiths daughter though! Haha yes i wish there would have been a response to morrigans agreement with the sacrifice of elves for more power just something like "seriously, my love, are you f*cking kidding me? I'm an elf!" and also when Alistair comments on our eating and calls us savage i would've loved to have been able to call him out on it! Its a comment you get with any race but there should've been a special comment for a Dalish haha
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