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Post by pixiqui on Sept 22, 2016 16:55:46 GMT
Just was curious about everyone's opinions. My favorite is the illusive man. I really like his character, I felt like he wasn't the typical cliche villain but i hated what they did to him in mass effect 3. I felt like the goal of cerberus was noble but their methods were definitely wrong. One thing i really liked about him was in mass effect 3 at cronos station when you look at the holotape videos of him talking to kai leng, he says he still respects shepard which made me like him even more especially because my shep pretty much told him to go f*ck himself in mass effect 2. I didn't dislike many villains in the trilogy, I just liked some more than others, but if i had to pick my least favorite was kai lang. I didn't like him or dislike him, he was just... there. He was a minor annoyance but i didn't really care about him much but i felt like i should of. I think they should of made me hate him more or like him more idk but ultimately i think he was incompetent. I really didn't like that salarian dalatrass either. The only one i really hated was the catalyst. ugh i hate that kid with a passion! So who are your favorite villian(s) also your least favorite? Also if you picked other/not listed please explain. Also i added the council just for lols
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Post by CHRrOME on Sept 22, 2016 17:04:11 GMT
It's hard to decide, but I'll go for Saren. Also he's a Turian, so bonus point there. TIM did everything from behind his chair, which I kinda respect; but Saren did more "field" work which I respect much more.
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Post by pixiqui on Sept 22, 2016 17:11:23 GMT
It's hard to decide, but I'll go for Saren. Also he's a Turian, so bonus point there. TIM did everything from behind his chair, which I kinda respect; but Saren did more "field" work which I respect much more. yea saren was also great you can really tell he was struggling with being indoctrinated. I felt a little bad when he committed suicide in mass effect 1 but idk he didn't actually seem like a particularly good person before anyways.
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Post by Sondergaard on Sept 22, 2016 17:11:42 GMT
Never saw Aria as a villain. She might have been to others but not to Shep.
And where's Darius? More a comic interlude than a villain I suppose but I really tried not to kill him. 'Say please'. Oooh, big mistake.
As for the worst? The ME3 bad guys. TIM (so good in ME2), Kai Leng (just get lost), Clone (wasted opportunity).
Oh, and Harbinger in ME2. 'You feel this'. Just embarrassing that he/it would stoop so low.
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Post by pixiqui on Sept 22, 2016 17:16:27 GMT
Never saw Aria as a villain. She might have been to others but not to Shep. And where's Darius? More a comic interlude than a villain I suppose but I really tried not to kill him. 'Say please'. Oooh, big mistake. true, i was debating on if i should of put aria but i guess she can be a villain depending on your perspective, and also i never encountered darius so i forgot about him. I knew i was missing others but that's what the other/not listed vote is for
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 17:16:36 GMT
I really like Oleg Petrovsky. I found him a likeable villain, he was a strategist, a charismatic commander and in some way a gentleman who cares for his men and showed mercy to Aria. He certainly stands out of the average indoctrinated Cerberus thugs. I wished we had more villains like him, non-indoctrinated and with a code of honor. Tela Vasir was also good.
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Post by pixiqui on Sept 22, 2016 17:21:59 GMT
I really like Oleg Petrovsky. I found him a likeable villain, he was a strategist, a charismatic commander and in some way a gentleman who cares for his men and showed mercy to Aria. He certainly stands out of the average indoctrinated Cerberus thugs. I wished we had more villains like him, non-indoctrinated and with a code of honor. Tela Vasir was also good. I agree i think he at least had some honor, I always spare him and yes i love vasir!
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Post by Sondergaard on Sept 22, 2016 17:23:25 GMT
I really like Oleg Petrovsky. I found him a likeable villain, he was a strategist, a charismatic commander and in some way a gentleman who cares for his men and showed mercy to Aria. He certainly stands out of the average indoctrinated Cerberus thugs. I wished we had more villains like him, non-indoctrinated and with a code of honor. Tela Vasir was also good. He also experimented on civilians to create those Cerberus/Reaper creatures whose name escapes me and then unleashed them. Code of honour my arse. I let Aria strangle him without hesitation.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 22, 2016 17:31:47 GMT
Harbinger. ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL. Too bad he couldn't talk smack to my Shepard in ME3 like he did in ME2
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Post by Ahriman on Sept 22, 2016 17:39:46 GMT
Sovereign for his sexy voice and over-the-top ego. Tela Vasir for being one of most believable of them all.
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Post by pixiqui on Sept 22, 2016 17:44:46 GMT
Harbinger. ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL. Too bad he couldn't talk smack to my Shepard in ME3 like he did in ME2 haha! i would always look forward to hearing him talk when i was killing collectors, it made the battle seem more intense or fun I guess. I liked that he was so vocal and that we got to talk to him a little in the arrival dlc, I think that's why i liked him a bit more than sovereign although i do think sovereign was more competent. I was hoping we would actually get to fight him in me3. Missed opportunity
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Post by Hunter on Sept 22, 2016 18:04:06 GMT
Saren and Vasir are definitely the best. I liked the idea of the Thorian, in a lot of ways it was the embodiment of evil. And Brooks was perfect in that cheeky villain trope that fit perfectly for the Citadel DLC.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Sept 22, 2016 18:10:18 GMT
Sovereign of course. Everything he was and did was magnificent. Too bad it was systematically ruined step by step in the sequels. Saren is a close second. Thorian's the third. The others don't even come close.
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Post by Toledo wombat on Sept 22, 2016 18:18:38 GMT
4 votes, thank god... TIM, Sovy, Harby and a vote for Henry Lawson. I think Lawson's spectacularly evil and yet convinced of his own brilliance and right to behave as he does. Clearly very clever, very charming, very manipulative and thus probably a psychopath. TIM tries to be reasonable, you can even just about see things from his point of view (well, if he wasn't indoctrinated, which i think he is), he's a misguided, ok VERY misguided, idealist, and the Reapers are just big bad space monsters (where's the Leviathans? Now those guys scare me...) but Henry doesn't need to be reasonable, he thinks he is, it's all about him. Plus he's voiced by Jim from Neighbours (you may need to be a member of the Old fogeys thread to remember Alan Dale in Neighbours... he was Jason Donovan's dad. How can someone who played Jason Donovan's dad in a soap opera be evil? Henry manages).
Also forgot to mention that Sovy has the best speech writer, but I love the way you can totally misconstrue Harbinger to the point where he sounds positively flirty.
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Post by AIS-Sona_v7 on Sept 22, 2016 19:25:17 GMT
Easily have to commend Oleg Petrovksy. He, unlike every other villain, deserves respect. Him being a high ranking officer is not the reason, he is a true man ! In a galaxy of wanna-be edgy superkillers, brutes on brutes conflicts, he sits among the waste of the galaxy not on a golden throne but a tall wooden chair. He knows when he is defeated and he doesn't taunt his enemies, he accepts all who challenge him as equal players of the battle. His combat skills are that of a veteran who does not let anger move his hands, but those of a person (ironically) playing a long game of chess. The voice he uses remains neutral even in loss, the posture he holds is that of a proud leader who will remain focused until the end. Unlike other Cerberus front-liners, he knows one thing nobody else did, he knows to not fight until the last man dies. Oleg Petrovsky is a honorary enemy whom I will spare from Aria no matter what, he has challenged my skill as a leader in fair combat and I shall respectfully accept his surrender.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Sept 22, 2016 20:26:05 GMT
The Illusive Man. Aria and Maya i wanted to have sex with and the rest i didn't care about. Mass Effect is a series where i liked the main character and the companions more then the villains.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Sept 23, 2016 3:33:38 GMT
4 votes, thank god... TIM, Sovy, Harby and a vote for Henry Lawson. I think Lawson's spectacularly evil and yet convinced of his own brilliance and right to behave as he does. Clearly very clever, very charming, very manipulative and thus probably a psychopath. I think you and I played very different games. The Henry Lawson I saw was a pathetic failure of a weakling, not the least bit intimidating, let alone charming or manipulative. The whole time I'm thinking "this is what Miranda's been running from for decades? Nope, does not compute." When I saw a trailer (or was it leaked footage?) of Miranda biotically throwing someone through a window I thought that was some hapless bureaucratic intern who got in her way. When I played the game, there wasn't much to dispel that notion. There were much bigger issues in the ending and Miranda's sidelining but those aside, Henry Lawson remained one of the most disappointing things in ME3.
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Post by Robo on Sept 23, 2016 3:49:04 GMT
That one Geth trooper on Eden Prim, you know, the white one? He turns his head and looks at Shepard and co as they arrive on the horizontal elevator? So stoic, so majestic. I want to grow up to be just like him.
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Post by straykat on Sept 23, 2016 4:27:06 GMT
Saren, I guess.. especially if I add the books.
Least favorite? I don't know.. Maybe Vido. He's Zaeed's problem, not mine.
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Post by our_lady_of_darkness on Sept 23, 2016 5:18:04 GMT
I'd say Saren in ME1, later I'd go for Aria (though I agree, she's not really a villain) and Tela Vasir - these two would make a formidable team.
Morinth gets a (dis)honorable mention.
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Post by fraggle on Sept 23, 2016 6:47:31 GMT
My votes went to the Illusive Man and Maya Brooks, both awesome characters in my opinion. And I guess this is a very unpopular opinion, but Saren never really appealed to me thaaat much, and Sovy and Harby do nothing to me except rolling my eyes at their talks
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 8:02:39 GMT
I really like Oleg Petrovsky. I found him a likeable villain, he was a strategist, a charismatic commander and in some way a gentleman who cares for his men and showed mercy to Aria. He certainly stands out of the average indoctrinated Cerberus thugs. I wished we had more villains like him, non-indoctrinated and with a code of honor. Tela Vasir was also good. He also experimented on civilians to create those Cerberus/Reaper creatures whose name escapes me and then unleashed them. Code of honour my arse. I let Aria strangle him without hesitation. Well he is a villain, after all we are not speaking about good guys. I do think he has a code of honor in some way, otherwise Aria wouldn't be there and was already food for the Varren when he caught her the first time.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Sept 23, 2016 11:05:51 GMT
I really like Oleg Petrovsky. I found him a likeable villain, he was a strategist, a charismatic commander and in some way a gentleman who cares for his men and showed mercy to Aria. He certainly stands out of the average indoctrinated Cerberus thugs. I wished we had more villains like him, non-indoctrinated and with a code of honor. Tela Vasir was also good. He also experimented on civilians to create those Cerberus/Reaper creatures whose name escapes me and then unleashed them. Code of honour my arse. I let Aria strangle him without hesitation. I'd stick that code of honor up your ass. That's where it belongs. Said civilians were scum from Omega and deserved what they got anyway. At least Cerberus makes them useful in death.
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Post by Ieldra on Sept 23, 2016 12:00:52 GMT
In no particular order:
Sovereign, for their sheer presence, their speech and for their unambiguous antagonism. "You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it" is probably the best antagonist's line in the trilogy. Oleg Petrovsky, for being a convincing and clear-thinking strategist rather than an incoherent lunatic like so many others.
Least favorite: the Catalyst
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Post by opuspace on Sept 24, 2016 4:49:08 GMT
It's kind of corny, but the clone Shep gave me the most fun to hate them. By the time the final fight came, I was actually looking forward to pounding the snot out of them. Maya, by proxy, I think would be on that same level I guess. The others were...just there. I didn't hate them, didn't admire them...I just didn't care because they would say something that sounded a little too dramatic to take the rest of that conversation seriously. It'd have been more chilling if the encounter had been done with little fanfare, less need for an orchestra and a lengthy speech. Probably a bad sign if I'm tuning out the villain's speech and waiting to shoot them.
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