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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Aug 26, 2017 16:07:22 GMT
Seems pretty accurate to me. And if enough people hold that opinion, then maybe there is something to it... (snip) Companies evolve and tastes evolve with it too. You're both right. Of course Bioware is a sell-out. Successful businesses get successful by following the money, and if that means abandoning the early adopters that made them successful in the first place, so be it. This is an evolution that has been repeated over and over again in just about every business segment that has early adopters. Correspondingly, holding on to the abandoned past is futile. Cherish the memory and move on. If you can't stomach supporting what Bioware has become, that's fine, go help a Kickstarter or indie studio that is doing something nostalgic (there's no shortage of those). It won't make the slightest difference to the juggernaut that Bioware/EA have become. As I noted before, even if 100% of MEA purchasers boycott Anthem, it will still outsell the week 1 unit numbers of any of Bioware's previous 1.0 offerings, most likely. The heretofore untapped market, wrt to Bioware's traditional market, is just that large.
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I actually specifically only want Tyranny. The other three Obsidian games do not have the settings that are interesting enough and are too long. Tyranny sounds like me2 sort of like a bunch of short stories you can resolve one way or another + Bronze Age setting. Unfortunately, it is isometric, so I do not know if I can manage it, so I am waiting for them to release the last DLC and put it on sale. I would say that I am certainly not a shooter fan target audience, but I am a sucker for good visuals, but Anthem disappointed me in that respect because the landscape and suits just do not capture my imagination. The Remnant stuff did in Andromeda, and some of the planets... but Anthem... well, it was very vanilla I guess. Nothing super-cool, nothing novel, nothing blow my face off... the new assassin creed took the cake for me in that respect, that stuff looks like I want it in my dreams and fantasies. To be fair to Tyranny it is easy to pick up and play..considering the developers who follow a "4E" paradigm with the mechanics it is balanced and tactical in that regard. The magic system is damn good too for what it's worth. Honestly, give it a shot, just be ready for it to be a short experience, and depending on things...a kind of bland one. Short is actually a pro in my books because I really dislike the modern way, way, way too long games. I will pick it up once they bundled all the DLCs in one good package and put it on-sale. No hurry now. I've already tried to do something different with Prey, and now will have to spend many months trying to finish the thing. Darn, it was so engaging in the beginning and grew so boring after a few hours.
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Post by OdanUrr on Aug 28, 2017 2:38:12 GMT
"We totally promise to support this game even if it doesn't sell well. You can trust us. After all, it has multiplayer." From an anonymous source who wishes to stay alive.
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Post by Qolx on Aug 28, 2017 22:45:27 GMT
(snip) Companies evolve and tastes evolve with it too. You're both right. Of course Bioware is a sell-out. Successful businesses get successful by following the money, and if that means abandoning the early adopters that made them successful in the first place, so be it. This is an evolution that has been repeated over and over again in just about every business segment that has early adopters. Correspondingly, holding on to the abandoned past is futile. Cherish the memory and move on. If you can't stomach supporting what Bioware has become, that's fine, go help a Kickstarter or indie studio that is doing something nostalgic (there's no shortage of those). It won't make the slightest difference to the juggernaut that Bioware/EA have become. As I noted before, even if 100% of MEA purchasers boycott Anthem, it will still outsell the week 1 unit numbers of any of Bioware's previous 1.0 offerings, most likely. The heretofore untapped market, wrt to Bioware's traditional market, is just that large. I agree. Anthem will sell a lot. The test will be its staying power within the genre.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Aug 29, 2017 21:47:15 GMT
I'd love to say that a Fall '18 release date would be far enough away from MEA's "tepid" reception that it would not taint it's launch. However, seeing that we are 5 months out from MEA's launch, and some people on this forum who had never even played MEA still post almost daily about their disdain for the game, it's questionable as to if Bioware can overcome the bad publicity. I think the fact that it is aimed at a different crowd, and that there is still plenty of time for a good E3 showing and a fantastic marketing campaign, that people who think it looks good will buy it without second thought.
I think the very best thing for Anthem would be if they did a series of Betas and Tech Tests far before launch so that players can get a hold of it and see that it's a good, well-made game (if it is, of course), and that it's free from glitches, animation problems, etc. If it's a great game and can showcase it before launch, then I think it can overcome MEA's reception. If it is a lackluster Destiny clone, as some say it will be, then MEA's reception will doubly hurt any tepid reception Anthem would get.
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Post by fchopin on Aug 29, 2017 23:41:35 GMT
People will never forget the abandonment of Mass Effect. The only reason i went to the Bioware forums was because of ME1.
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Post by Qolx on Sept 2, 2017 1:16:34 GMT
fchopin Yes, people won't forget the abandonment of ME but I think they can get over it if BW delivers a solid win. Victory tends to pardon sins.
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Post by linksocarina on Sept 4, 2017 19:14:06 GMT
fchopin Yes, people won't forget the abandonment of ME but I think they can get over it if BW delivers a solid win. Victory tends to pardon sins. You're underestimating the spears people are pointing out there, methinks. I feel like people have had it in for BioWare for a while now, regardless of quality of their products, just because they feel slighted or cheated in some way, going back to my "sell out" analogy. The purists don't like the changeover from tabletop mechanics to more "abstract" design because it's more video-gamey (MDA design philosophy for role-playing games in general in a AAA environment) The hardcore video game crowd don't like the fact that BioWare is owned by EA, see no value in them as an EA brand because of old (and in a few cases, unfounded) grudges from over 20 years ago, and simply want EA and it's subsidiaries to crash and burn because of it. You have the BioWare loyalists who hate the fact that the Doctors are gone and that the games are "dumbing down" for outsiders out there. They want old BioWare games back, not new BioWare games essentially. Then you have the trolls out there who hate BioWare because of things like "forced politics" and such asinine notions. They want the company to die because they think they are playing socio-political games with their products... That is a lot of spears at their throat at this point, and most of it is unwarranted, conspiratorial, or frankly petty bullshit. Problems with game aside, these kind of notions to me annoy me the most because of how irrational they can be; if you are not a fan of the product created, don't play it then and save your money. It's not hard to judge a product when it's marketed to you, especially with how most marketing now shows direct video of their games instead of weird commercials and we see gameplay demos all the time of said products out there. Just cut out the commentary and make a choice, good fandom does that. They don't burn bridges over minutiae or salt the earth with manufactured outrage.
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Post by Iakus on Sept 4, 2017 23:01:07 GMT
fchopin Yes, people won't forget the abandonment of ME but I think they can get over it if BW delivers a solid win. Victory tends to pardon sins. You're underestimating the spears people are pointing out there, methinks. I feel like people have had it in for BioWare for a while now, regardless of quality of their products, just because they feel slighted or cheated in some way, going back to my "sell out" analogy. The purists don't like the changeover from tabletop mechanics to more "abstract" design because it's more video-gamey (MDA design philosophy for role-playing games in general in a AAA environment) The hardcore video game crowd don't like the fact that BioWare is owned by EA, see no value in them as an EA brand because of old (and in a few cases, unfounded) grudges from over 20 years ago, and simply want EA and it's subsidiaries to crash and burn because of it. You have the BioWare loyalists who hate the fact that the Doctors are gone and that the games are "dumbing down" for outsiders out there. They want old BioWare games back, not new BioWare games essentially. Then you have the trolls out there who hate BioWare because of things like "forced politics" and such asinine notions. They want the company to die because they think they are playing socio-political games with their products... That is a lot of spears at their throat at this point, and most of it is unwarranted, conspiratorial, or frankly petty bullshit. Problems with game aside, these kind of notions to me annoy me the most because of how irrational they can be; if you are not a fan of the product created, don't play it then and save your money. It's not hard to judge a product when it's marketed to you, especially with how most marketing now shows direct video of their games instead of weird commercials and we see gameplay demos all the time of said products out there. Just cut out the commentary and make a choice, good fandom does that. They don't burn bridges over minutiae or salt the earth with manufactured outrage. And where do you pigeon hole those who are angry at: The games becoming more and more centered on multiplayer? The addition of microtransactions? The loss of freedom to create your own character? The general lackluster nature of the stories of late?
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Post by linksocarina on Sept 5, 2017 14:44:27 GMT
You're underestimating the spears people are pointing out there, methinks. I feel like people have had it in for BioWare for a while now, regardless of quality of their products, just because they feel slighted or cheated in some way, going back to my "sell out" analogy. The purists don't like the changeover from tabletop mechanics to more "abstract" design because it's more video-gamey (MDA design philosophy for role-playing games in general in a AAA environment) The hardcore video game crowd don't like the fact that BioWare is owned by EA, see no value in them as an EA brand because of old (and in a few cases, unfounded) grudges from over 20 years ago, and simply want EA and it's subsidiaries to crash and burn because of it. You have the BioWare loyalists who hate the fact that the Doctors are gone and that the games are "dumbing down" for outsiders out there. They want old BioWare games back, not new BioWare games essentially. Then you have the trolls out there who hate BioWare because of things like "forced politics" and such asinine notions. They want the company to die because they think they are playing socio-political games with their products... That is a lot of spears at their throat at this point, and most of it is unwarranted, conspiratorial, or frankly petty bullshit. Problems with game aside, these kind of notions to me annoy me the most because of how irrational they can be; if you are not a fan of the product created, don't play it then and save your money. It's not hard to judge a product when it's marketed to you, especially with how most marketing now shows direct video of their games instead of weird commercials and we see gameplay demos all the time of said products out there. Just cut out the commentary and make a choice, good fandom does that. They don't burn bridges over minutiae or salt the earth with manufactured outrage. And where do you pigeon hole those who are angry at: The games becoming more and more centered on multiplayer? The addition of microtransactions? The loss of freedom to create your own character? The general lackluster nature of the stories of late? The loss of freedom I feel is a bit of a stretch, you never had much freedom from a plot sense to create your character in a BioWare game. You only had freedom of their actions narratively. The rest are more legitimate complaints.
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Post by Iakus on Sept 5, 2017 14:49:46 GMT
And where do you pigeon hole those who are angry at: The games becoming more and more centered on multiplayer? The addition of microtransactions? The loss of freedom to create your own character? The general lackluster nature of the stories of late? The loss of freedom I feel is a bit of a stretch, you never had much freedom from a plot sense to create your character in a BioWare game. You only had freedom of their actions narratively. The rest are more legitimate complaints. "Narratively" is still important in a game with a strong narrative
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Post by linksocarina on Sept 5, 2017 14:56:40 GMT
The loss of freedom I feel is a bit of a stretch, you never had much freedom from a plot sense to create your character in a BioWare game. You only had freedom of their actions narratively. The rest are more legitimate complaints. "Narratively" is still important in a game with a strong narrative But it's not total freedom. And BioWare still provides narrative freedom to their players, so the point is kind of moot.
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Post by Iakus on Sept 5, 2017 15:03:29 GMT
"Narratively" is still important in a game with a strong narrative But it's not total freedom. And BioWare still provides narrative freedom to their players, so the point is kind of moot. No, it's not total freedom, but the degree has gotten more and more restrictive, with binary responses, or tepid ones that all feel pretty much the same. Or being restricted from taking logical or reasonable actions because it would knock the already-weak story off the rails.
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Post by linksocarina on Sept 5, 2017 15:38:34 GMT
But it's not total freedom. And BioWare still provides narrative freedom to their players, so the point is kind of moot. No, it's not total freedom, but the degree has gotten more and more restrictive, with binary responses, or tepid ones that all feel pretty much the same. Or being restricted from taking logical or reasonable actions because it would knock the already-weak story off the rails. BioWare has always provided binary responses and tepid ones that feel pretty much the same. Been that way since Baldur's Gate. That is their style in keeping up the illusion of choice. Everyone does it, for that matter. The thing is, is BioWare really not doing it well when compared to the rest? That part I find debatable.
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Post by PillarBiter on Sept 6, 2017 7:11:47 GMT
You're underestimating the spears people are pointing out there, methinks. I feel like people have had it in for BioWare for a while now, regardless of quality of their products, just because they feel slighted or cheated in some way, going back to my "sell out" analogy. The purists don't like the changeover from tabletop mechanics to more "abstract" design because it's more video-gamey (MDA design philosophy for role-playing games in general in a AAA environment) The hardcore video game crowd don't like the fact that BioWare is owned by EA, see no value in them as an EA brand because of old (and in a few cases, unfounded) grudges from over 20 years ago, and simply want EA and it's subsidiaries to crash and burn because of it. You have the BioWare loyalists who hate the fact that the Doctors are gone and that the games are "dumbing down" for outsiders out there. They want old BioWare games back, not new BioWare games essentially. Then you have the trolls out there who hate BioWare because of things like "forced politics" and such asinine notions. They want the company to die because they think they are playing socio-political games with their products... That is a lot of spears at their throat at this point, and most of it is unwarranted, conspiratorial, or frankly petty bullshit. Problems with game aside, these kind of notions to me annoy me the most because of how irrational they can be; if you are not a fan of the product created, don't play it then and save your money. It's not hard to judge a product when it's marketed to you, especially with how most marketing now shows direct video of their games instead of weird commercials and we see gameplay demos all the time of said products out there. Just cut out the commentary and make a choice, good fandom does that. They don't burn bridges over minutiae or salt the earth with manufactured outrage. And where do you pigeon hole those who are angry at: The games becoming more and more centered on multiplayer? This is fine by me, as long as you don't need 20000 'friends' to actually get the best experience, but can just jump in with strangers.The addition of microtransactions? Horrid. But as long as they don't receive gameplay advantages on me through paying, Im fine with it.The loss of freedom to create your own character? Meh. If it offers me a better narrative, I'm perfectly fine with an established character.The general lackluster nature of the stories of late? Whachu talkin' bout Willis? I haven't had any issues with stories of late. Sure they're a bit more streamlined, but 99% of the people they sell the game to aren't oxford literary professors, so it shouldn't be catered to them. Also, if you want an actual good story, read a book. Just my opinion, no need to go spreading it around or anything.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 17:50:54 GMT
I honestly have no problems with any of it, as long as I get to create my own character, not a premade one. I would rather play a really dumb story in a MMO where I can make an interesting (to me) lead, than the best-ever story in a videogame with Jon Johnson, the guy who looks like this, speaks like that & wuves Jane Jackson.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Sept 8, 2017 3:50:55 GMT
Also, if you want an actual good story, read a book. Now that is about the last thing I expected to read in a BSN forum. Even the ME fandom wouldn't go that far. Very refreshing. Categorically incorrect, but very refreshing nonetheless.
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Post by PillarBiter on Sept 8, 2017 6:15:12 GMT
Also, if you want an actual good story, read a book. Now that is about the last thing I expected to read in a BSN forum. Even the ME fandom wouldn't go that far. Very refreshing. Categorically incorrect, but very refreshing nonetheless. inorite? Gotta stay true to the bioware fan spirit, after all.
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Post by darkdoz on Sept 9, 2017 0:21:55 GMT
Sorry Bioware but with the way you have treated Mass Effects Andromeda, how do we know you will not do the same to Anthem
Until I see a DLC for Mass Effects Andromeda. I will not buy anything from Bioware and that mean no Anthem.
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Post by brandoftime on Sept 10, 2017 21:27:25 GMT
Rolling out the announcement for this title while MEA was undergoing a slow death spiral was a crappy PR choice. It looks like Bioware wants to get rid of their original fan base and start over with the online gaming community. Cancelling DLC was the final finger to all of us out there they teased with the Quarian Ark in game. Several times. Like random loot picked up in game says 'Quarian chipset' or 'Quarian --' and the tease by the NPC after winning the game. Not cool, EA, not cool.
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Post by Heimdall on Sept 13, 2017 18:23:09 GMT
Rolling out the announcement for this title while MEA was undergoing a slow death spiral was a crappy PR choice. It looks like Bioware wants to get rid of their original fan base and start over with the online gaming community. Cancelling DLC was the final finger to all of us out there they teased with the Quarian Ark in game. Several times. Like random loot picked up in game says 'Quarian chipset' or 'Quarian --' and the tease by the NPC after winning the game. Not cool, EA, not cool. That is a vast oversimplification. The devs working on Anthem had nothing to do with the decisions made for MEA for the most part. When it comes down to it, MEA just didn't do as well as they had hoped and thus they decided to shelves the franchise for a bit. I know the game has its fans and I liked it overall, despite its great flaws, but deciding not to produce DLC after all the other studios effectively had to bail Bioware Montreal out of the hole they dug for themselves is not a middle finger to the fans. I expect this was a resource decision, the more I think about it, the time Edmonton and Austin personnel put into Andromeda was time not spent on other projects. Anthem and the next DA effectively had to have their schedules pushed back to some degree so most of Andromeda could be built in a year and a half. Montreal's dissolution is unsurprising from this perspective, as EA probably didn't trust them to helm more projects after how badly Andromeda's development was mismanaged. So their choice was to dedicate more resources to a project that wasn't as successful as they had hoped by continuing to siphon personnel and resources from the other projects or they could refocus on their other properties while shelving Mass Effect for later reevaluation. The choice they made, while disappointing for fans, was entirely reasonable. I also suspect the plan to unveil Anthem at this year's E3 was in place for some time. Bioware isn't trying to get rid of their old fanbase, though they probably aren't too fond of the portion of that fanbase who treats every deviation from old games as a personal slight.
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Ah, I wish they'd start marketing. In a wake, after the wake, whatever. I still want news. Even if I am saying how I am not gonna play it.
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Post by Iakus on Sept 13, 2017 21:21:09 GMT
Ah, I wish they'd start marketing. In a wake, after the wake, whatever. I still want news. Even if I am saying how I am not gonna play it. After MEA, I'm pretty sure any marketing they did would be absolutely savaged. They p*ssed off a lot of people, both with how MEA was handled and the apparent style of Anthem. The audience is not exactly receptive atm. Heck I'm not sure how much more receptive they'll be next year either
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 21:28:23 GMT
Ah, I wish they'd start marketing. In a wake, after the wake, whatever. I still want news. Even if I am saying how I am not gonna play it. After MEA, I'm pretty sure any marketing they did would be absolutely savaged. They p*ssed off a lot of people, both with how MEA was handled and the apparent style of Anthem. The audience is not exactly receptive atm. Heck I'm not sure how much more receptive they'll be next year either Ah, I suppose I have fast bounce back cycle.
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Post by Iakus on Sept 13, 2017 21:33:06 GMT
After MEA, I'm pretty sure any marketing they did would be absolutely savaged. They p*ssed off a lot of people, both with how MEA was handled and the apparent style of Anthem. The audience is not exactly receptive atm. Heck I'm not sure how much more receptive they'll be next year either Ah, I suppose I have fast bounce back cycle. I'm still salty about ME3
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