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Post by wright1978 on Mar 6, 2018 13:19:49 GMT
Given DAI provided hetro women & lesbians an elven romance, i'm hoping for a bi beautiful Elven seductress this time round. I'm guessing despite my antipathy for her Harding will be back & an option for those into dwarves.
Personally i hope there aren't any other companions that come in either from past games or from the comics.
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Post by copper on Mar 6, 2018 15:18:18 GMT
Personally i hope there aren't any other companions that come in either from past games or from the comics. Given that there's been one returning companion in each installment (Awakening had Oghren, DA2 had Anders, and Inquisition had Varric), I'd be surprised if we didn't have one in DA4. But I do feel that a lot of the cameos felt hamfisted in previous games. Hopefully the writers only include cameos that really make sense, such as seeing Dorian in Tevinter since he returns there no matter what after Inquisition.
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Post by Sah291 on Mar 6, 2018 17:55:37 GMT
A male or female mage, who will have some kind of cause, duty, or personal mission that takes them where you can't follow... but not before they dump you, try to trick you, or lie about something. Because everybody knows Bioware can't make a DA game without this trope. Personally as much as I liked those characters/romances, I'm hoping they break from this trope and the next mage romance is a little bit different this time around.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 6, 2018 18:07:06 GMT
A male or female mage, who will have some kind of cause, duty, or personal mission that takes them where you can't follow... but not before they dump you, try to trick you, or lie about something. Because everybody knows Bioware can't make a DA game without this trope. Personally as much as I liked those characters/romances, I'm hoping they break from this trope and the next mage romance is a little bit different this time around. Yeah. So far the only exception to this trope in the series is Merrill.
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Post by Walter Black on Mar 6, 2018 18:30:07 GMT
If we get any romanceable female elves in DA4, I hope at least one is older and wiser than Merrill and Sera. Late 30s to early 40s at least, but preferably an awakened Arlathan elf. Sera and Merrill were good for those who enjoyed them, but both represented alternate takes on the "young pixie" elven stereotype. Let's have a little more reserved mystery this time, like Galadriel or Titania.
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Post by helios969 on Mar 6, 2018 21:57:21 GMT
Eliminated?
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Post by saMoorai on Mar 7, 2018 2:08:39 GMT
A male or female mage, who will have some kind of cause, duty, or personal mission that takes them where you can't follow... but not before they dump you, try to trick you, or lie about something. Because everybody knows Bioware can't make a DA game without this trope. Personally as much as I liked those characters/romances, I'm hoping they break from this trope and the next mage romance is a little bit different this time around. Yeah. So far the only exception to this trope in the series is Merrill. I'm going to be really pissed if Merrill shows up in 4 just to reveal she joined up with Solas.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Mar 7, 2018 2:23:42 GMT
I'm going to be really pissed if Merrill shows up in 4 just to reveal she joined up with Solas. Not going to happen. She's Dalish. She actively respects the Creators, and hates Fen'Herral. It would make about as much sense as Leliana joining Corypheous because "Well, hes powerful, so he must be the new God." Frankly it doesn't make sense for ANY dalish to join Solas, short of the ones that are little more than bandits. Certainly not ones that are as pious as Merrill. That, and after having finally played Trespasser, I'm pretty convinced DA2 party + Hawke are firmly in retirement. We aren't seeing them again, and I think I'm ok with that. I'd also just like to add that despite the aforementioned trope existing, there is only one complete Bioware romance I know of that actually ends with the player character being "dumped". Jacob from Mass Effect 2, who was possibly the least popular LI (if not least popular character) they have ever made. Solas, I'd argue, isn't really complete until he's "redeemed" or his body hits the floor, so we will see.
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Post by saMoorai on Mar 7, 2018 2:29:04 GMT
I'm going to be really pissed if Merrill shows up in 4 just to reveal she joined up with Solas. Not going to happen. She's Dalish. She actively respects the Creators, and hates Fen'Herral. It would make about as much sense as Leliana joining Corypheous because "Well, hes powerful, so he must be the new God." Frankly it doesn't make sense for ANY dalish to join Solas, short of the ones that are little more than bandits. Certainly not ones that are as pious as Merrill. That, and after having finally played Trespasser, I'm pretty convinced DA2 party + Hawke are firmly in retirement. We aren't seeing them again, and I think I'm ok with that. Oh don't get me wrong, I don't think it will happen. Just a fear of the writers giving a middle finger to Merrill fans. Personally, I'd like to see Merrill back just to see her reaction to the Eluvian network and Solas, but that can probably be shown without her making an appearance; Like a letter or something.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Mar 7, 2018 2:42:17 GMT
As far as predictions, here are mine. Im not getting into sexual preferences, because that's an angry wasps nest I have no interest in sticking my fleshy bits in.
Generic Human Female - Generic. Human. Female.
Generic Human Male - ''. ''. Male.
Female Tal Vashoth - Borderline barbarian. Hates the qun. The thing Iron Bull would kill.
Male Elf - Former Slave. Trying to understand freedom. Unfortunate power dynamic that will be addressed.
The Weird One - Written by Patrick Weekes. At least one character will comment "How does that... work?".
Dwarf - So people will finally shut up about it.
The one everyone wants to be a romance option, but isn't one, and at best you'll get one or two flirt options and a vague reverence in a dlc - That one.
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Post by Walter Black on Mar 7, 2018 3:00:54 GMT
As far as predictions, here are mine. Im not getting into sexual preferences, because that's an angry wasps nest I have no interest in sticking my fleshy bits in. Male Elf - Former Slave. Trying to understand freedom. Unfortunate power dynamic that will be addressed. Fenris ?
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Mar 7, 2018 3:10:57 GMT
Fenris ? I have never accused Bioware romances of originality. But I was thinking much much less anger, and much more confusion. More Orana than Fenris.
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Post by davkar on Mar 7, 2018 7:29:59 GMT
If we get any romanceable female elves in DA4, I hope at least one is older and wiser than Merrill and Sera. Late 30s to early 40s at least, but preferably an awakened Arlathan elf. Sera and Merrill were good for those who enjoyed them, but both represented alternate takes on the "young pixie" elven stereotype. Let's have a little more reserved mystery this time, like Galadriel or Titania. With ancient magical shits popping up all over the map I wouldn't be surprised if the sweet elven lass we're banging in DA4 would turn out to be murderlady Andruil who's using us to get revenge on fenny/free the others/become the only god walking thedas. Actually, I'd be okay with that.
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Post by Brannegan on Mar 7, 2018 11:26:56 GMT
hmmm...
Male City Elf non-mage - We've had a romanceable martial city elf in each game. We'll likely see another one. This could be a female too. I'm biased cos I'm hoping for Reyes the DA edition.
Generic Male Warrior - I mean... after how popular Alistair and Cullen were, they'll propably stick another one in as the 'safe' option. Could be a pro-tevinter templar to spice things up a bit.
Generic Human Female - gotta have that 'safe' option for dem CoDbros.
Maevaris - Not having her would be a waste of an amazing opportunity to have a trans romance in their games.
Female Saarebas - Someone like Hissera from DAIMP. The ultimate tsundere option.
Female Dwarf Warrior - After 4 games maybe it's time for some fan service.
There'd likely be a 3rd male option but I can't think of one right now xD
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Post by davesin on Mar 7, 2018 12:01:25 GMT
I'm not going to predict sexual orientations (expect for one character), but as for general characterizations:
Male Dwarf Warrior: I'm hoping he will be a bit of Kavorka man. I'm curious if Bioware manages to pull that one. Female Qunari: Because Qun demands it. And you should all be grateful! Male Human KISA: It seems to be popular among local gays and people interested in this kind of romance options. I have a feeling Bioware might fulfil their wishes finally. Female Human: Preferably rogue and someone who is more of foil to Isabela, Leliana and Rogues in general. Someone who defends Tevinter and its system. Male Elf: Warrior, but not like Fenris. I can imagine some kind of bandit king or criminal boss of some sort. Or one of these radical Dalish. Female Dwarf: Because we won't shut up until we get our little waifu. Male Qunari: A mage with thirst for power that put Tevinter magister to shame. Female Elf: Probably an ex-slave. We need at least one.
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Post by copper on Mar 7, 2018 16:30:29 GMT
Maevaris - Not having her would be a waste of an amazing opportunity to have a trans romance in their games. I thought Maevaris was already in a relationship? I haven't read any of the books or comics though, so maybe she is single at this point? I agree she should show up though. From what I've heard of her she seems pretty cool.
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Post by copper on Mar 7, 2018 17:04:01 GMT
I don't think I ever made my own predictions here. Let's see...
Plot important male human: because every game had one, with the exception of Solas being an elf
Plot important female human: again, every game had one. Either this character or the one above will have a chance to betray your character, especially if they're a mage.
Male KISA character: they're always popular
Male Dwarf AND a Female Dwarf: because I'm optimistic. Bonus if they're from Kal-Sharok or something.
An elven slave of any gender: I would guess female though since we already had Fenris, and for those players who want to romance a female elf as a male elf.
Female Qunari: Maybe a saarebas, maybe not. She'll have a different place in the Qun than Sten or the Iron Bull did.
Some of these might be combined, and I'm not even going to get into sexual orientation and just hope Bioware is smart about it.
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Post by Lazarillo on Mar 7, 2018 17:50:33 GMT
Maevaris - Not having her would be a waste of an amazing opportunity to have a trans romance in their games. I thought Maevaris was already in a relationship? I haven't read any of the books or comics though, so maybe she is single at this point? I agree she should show up though. From what I've heard of her she seems pretty cool. After the level of home they already seem to have built up in Inquisition and MEA can one just imagine the utter explosion that would probably result from Maevaris being one of the "straight" options for male PCs? There's a schadenfreude-y part of me that would really want to see that.
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Post by phoray on Mar 7, 2018 18:15:10 GMT
Generic Human Female - Generic. Human. Female. *laughing* For all our sakes, I hope they go generically pretty as well so I can quit reading all the whining.
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Post by phoray on Mar 7, 2018 18:17:45 GMT
Fenris ? I have never accused Bioware romances of originality. But I was thinking much much less anger, and much more confusion. More Orana than Fenris. Bonus points if he's actually naturally submissive, so he can angst about whether it's what he really wants or it's been trained into him. DAI got a male dom, why can't I play the Female Dom with a male sub? I would be too lucky ^^
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Mar 7, 2018 18:17:53 GMT
*laughing* For all our sakes, I hope they go generically pretty as well so I can quit reading all the whining. When are they not?
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Mar 7, 2018 18:18:55 GMT
Bonus points if he's actually naturally submissive, so he can angst about whether it's what he really wants or it's been trained into him. DAI got a male dom, why can't I play the Female Dom with a male sub? I would be too lucky ^^ Pretty much exactly what I mean, yeah.
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Post by phoray on Mar 7, 2018 18:20:17 GMT
*laughing* For all our sakes, I hope they go generically pretty as well so I can quit reading all the whining. When are they not? Generically pretty is Miranda and AShley from Mass Effect. <- I find neither of these women appealing, they tend to look like the popular girls from my highschool days IF they'd given Cora long hair, she may have fallen into Generically Pretty as well.
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Post by phoray on Mar 7, 2018 18:28:31 GMT
Bonus points if he's actually naturally submissive, so he can angst about whether it's what he really wants or it's been trained into him. DAI got a male dom, why can't I play the Female Dom with a male sub? I would be too lucky ^^ Pretty much exactly what I mean, yeah. A lot of fanfiction regarding Fenris that I've read has him going into the Maledom role. Two reasons: more women trend sub and more women write fan fiction 2nd, people feel uncomfortable putting Fenris in a submissive role after his life of abusive slavery. I have a Female dom Male Sub relationship in my real life, and I find it sad that so many people can't see that abusive REAL slavery is no where close to consensual loving submission. Fenris says "The Future of a Slave is never uncertain." A lot of people who consensually go fully informed into these sorts of relationships remark that it's a relief to leave the final decision about Things to a fully trusted invidual such as a spouse. I sometimes wonder, when he says that, if I don't hear a certain amount of longing in that sentence. An Appeal he feels in that sort of life that he hates himself for feeling. I'd love this to be explored, and also to see this under-served-in-video-games demographic represented. There is no shame in submission, regardless of gender, and that message isn't said to men often enough. Whereas 50 Shades gets sequels.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 7, 2018 18:39:35 GMT
Pretty much exactly what I mean, yeah. A lot of fanfiction regarding Fenris that I've read has him going into the Maledom role. Two reasons: more women trend sub and more women write fan fiction 2nd, people feel uncomfortable putting Fenris in a submissive role after his life of abusive slavery. I have a Female dom Male Sub relationship in my real life, and I find it sad that so many people can't see that abusive REAL slavery is no where close to consensual loving submission. Fenris says "The Future of a Slave is never uncertain." A lot of people who consensually go fully informed into these sorts of relationships remark that it's a relief to leave the final decision about Things to a fully trusted invidual such as a spouse. I sometimes wonder, when he says that, if I don't hear a certain amount of longing in that sentence. An Appeal he feels in that sort of life that he hates himself for feeling. I'd love this to be explored, and also to see this under-served-in-video-games demographic represented. There is no shame in submission, regardless of gender, and that message isn't said to men often enough. Whereas 50 Shades gets sequels.
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