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Post by Pounce de León on Nov 13, 2017 16:35:46 GMT
It is never too late, Interplay* is selling it on Steam... *I can't believe that company still exist, living only via their old games For me it is, tbh. There are a couple of games that just got out of date too much for me to play. I can't play with pixilated graphics. You're spoilt. M.U.L.E. is still one of the best games of all times and I don't shy away from loading it up in an emulator to play.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Nov 14, 2017 4:11:00 GMT
For me it is, tbh. There are a couple of games that just got out of date too much for me to play. I can't play with pixilated graphics. You're spoilt. M.U.L.E. is still one of the best games of all times and I don't shy away from loading it up in an emulator to play. Master of Magic (DOS Simtex/Microprose version) for me. That game is still awesome af. I mean, just look at it. And listen -- the midi soundtrack set a new standard, and sounded phenomenal on a Roland MT-32. Dungeon Keeper is also another timeless classic. The sequels never quite matched the original in total evil glee.
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Post by Pounce de León on Nov 14, 2017 9:22:09 GMT
You're spoilt. M.U.L.E. is still one of the best games of all times and I don't shy away from loading it up in an emulator to play. Master of Magic (DOS Simtex/Microprose version) for me. That game is still awesome af. I mean, just look at it. And listen -- the midi soundtrack set a new standard, and sounded phenomenal on a Roland MT-32. Dungeon Keeper is also another timeless classic. The sequels never quite matched the original in total evil glee. That game was a masterpiece. Some tried to surpass. All of them failed to do. Just like with MoO2. Simtex just nailed it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 14:16:58 GMT
Oh, boy. I am afraid I just can’t play games that look like this. I also see a lot of modem games that do not have appealing graphics as well, like Tides of Numeneria and even Inquisition. I am very picky about it.
I did not mind Anthem’s look, so that’s a plus.
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Post by Toy Soldier Ken on Nov 30, 2017 6:09:09 GMT
I say it depends on how they market the game and how it initially appeals to people. If they make a lazy game, they will get lazy results.
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Post by invisibleman on Jan 9, 2018 19:50:01 GMT
being a hardcore fan of kotor & kotor 2, i was waiting for knights of the old republic 3... i was expecting a story & character driven single player rpg with depth, rich in detail and content, and i hoped that it would continue the stories of revan & the Jedi exile. when the old republic was announced i went "wait... you're making what? seriously?". the reason swtor will never really work is the fact that knights of the old republic setup the idea that a single jedi at the right place, at the right time can change the entire galaxy, your character actually felt like he or she had some impact (or that's how i felt), like the galaxy shifted by your whim. you can't simulate that in an mmo, no matter how you try to do it, or how hard you try period. honestly, i've never tried swtor, and as my friends have described it to me, the gameplay sounds interesting enough, though the game as a whole doesn't interest me at all, so i haven't played it, nor do i intend to. and i still kind of feel resentment that the old republic killed kotor 3, and i may or may not hold all mmos accountable for it. i can't tell. though i do hold swtor specifically responsible.
however, i have played world of warcraft, i've picked it up in 3 separate occasions (though it's been a few years since i've last played, like around burning crusade there abouts), and played it for about a year stretch on all 3 occasions. i've played guildwars 2 (liked that there wasn't a monthly subscription cost), and runescape, and excluding GW2, i've never played multiplayer in a full priced game with microtransactions, though mainly for specific reasons... in me3 i couldn't stand the fact that galactic readiness could only be influenced by playing multiplayer. every time i looked at that incessant 50% plastered all over the war map, my immersion died. it felt like i was being pushed into playing multiplayer against my will, so i put my foot down and decided no... i'm not playing me3's multiplayer, and i'm not filling ea's pockets with microtransactions. as far as me3 goes... i'm going to ignore multiplayer all together, no matter how good it was. in andromeda i was already weary, and when i actually saw the multiplayer i was automatically turned off by that damned loot box system in particular (i'd heard about me3's loot boxes, this seemed worse by far), and the multiplayer gameplay held no real interest for me, i even tried it out a little, for fairness sake.
i suppose multiplayer games hold no real interest for me, nor do multiplayer game modes, less so with microtransactions, and loot boxes lower still. so i doubt anthem will hold my attention for long. but, we shall see. does anyone think the loss of kotor 3 spoiled my interest in MMOs? or have i just never really liked them to begin with?
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Post by thats1evildude on Jan 9, 2018 20:26:08 GMT
What's even a BiOWARE fan? Someone who played one of their games before? Three? Two last franchises? All their games including Shattered Steel and SWTOR? That someone enjoyed Baldur's Gate 2 does not mean that s/he won't like Anthem. Good point. People tend to refer to "BioWare fans" as people who have played Baldur's Gate, SWTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect and Dragon Age. But I've only played the DA series. So I count as a "BioWare fan"?
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 9, 2018 20:32:20 GMT
in me3 i couldn't stand the fact that galactic readiness could only be influenced by playing multiplayer. every time i looked at that incessant 50% plastered all over the war map, my immersion died. it felt like i was being pushed into playing multiplayer against my will, so i put my foot down and decided no... i'm not playing me3's multiplayer, and i'm not filling ea's pockets with microtransactions. as far as me3 goes... i'm going to ignore multiplayer all together, no matter how good it was. I was initially wary about the ME3 multiplayer, which was my first multiplayer and I found it awesome. I put over 1,000 hours in and my hope for Anthem is in no small part down to my positive experience with MEMP.
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Post by rras1994 on Jan 9, 2018 20:32:56 GMT
What's even a BiOWARE fan? Someone who played one of their games before? Three? Two last franchises? All their games including Shattered Steel and SWTOR? That someone enjoyed Baldur's Gate 2 does not mean that s/he won't like Anthem. Good point. People tend to refer to "BioWare fans" as people who have played Baldur's Gate, SWTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect and Dragon Age. But I've only played the DA series. So I count as a "BioWare fan"? You like Dragon Age, therefore you count as a person with good taste!
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Post by LogicGunn on Jan 9, 2018 20:56:53 GMT
Think about it, Anthem is not going to appeal to the standard Bioware fan who enjoys SP experiences backed by a strong supporting cast of characters. So in theory, Anthem should be DOA but is that really the case? Destiny 2 will sell well and way more than MEA and DAI combined. Perhaps Bioware will take a hit with Bioware fans, but the Destiny crossover fans and general shooter/online fans which all out number Bioware fans will be well enough to support and sustain Anthem. Thoughts? I think it is going to need both fans and newbies to be a success. Some Bioware fans will dig it, others not so much, and that's cool either way, but to be a major success on par with ME and DA, and to have a vague hope of favourable comparisons to Destiny it's going to need new blood to fill in those indifferent gaps. It's not like Bioware fans only ever play and enjoy Bioware games, no matter how heated things get on here we all have other interests other than Bioware. Whatever happens it will be interesting to see.
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Post by LogicGunn on Jan 9, 2018 20:59:57 GMT
A company can make whatever game they want but if you're after what is going to make the most money it makes sense to make the kind of game that has a high amount of consumer demand. Though as I said before I think BioWare might end up struggling if they attempt to have a go of it based purely on how good a MP shooter they can make, so it's probably not the worst idea to have a hook for their traditional target market of story heavy singleplayer. Especially because it appears that Destiny 2 which is considered Anthem's biggest competition has stumbled on the story aspect and done something that's simply serviceable rather than really good. Throw linear there with the story heavy SP, and I think there is a potential to please more folks, with a good central linear story with traditional good/evil choices, and the OW for the MP folks to do the looter-shooting for a couple of years. Maybe it will work to get likes BioWare needs. If they can bring the best of both worlds, that'd be a larger target audience, though there is always the risk of spreading resources too thin and diluting the potential of everything.
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Post by vhiran on Jan 10, 2018 4:04:08 GMT
Absolutely they do.
Mosey over to Reddit and look at the thousands who actively want this game to fail and Bioware to be shut down. For no other purpose than to piss on their grave or be able to stick it to evil EA.
Their is a sizable community that outright hates Bioware from a negative experience they had once, the fact they made some open-world games, "SJW practices" or the Mass Effect 3 ending, or Andromeda being merely average (or the worst game ever, lmao to that). These fellows went in overdrive when Andromeda didn't live up to the expected le witcherino 3 quality (a game i love btw) and many youtube videos were created bashing Bioware. These fellows carry their hate and display it as strongly as possible. Worst of all, they are ill-informed. Unaware that there are multiple studios with the name 'Bioware' accusing Anthem devs of malicious practices that have actually been patented by a completely different company, Activision, etc.
I think Bioware is in for a very, VERY rude surprise when Anthem is released. Regardless of it's quality (it will probably be good, with a ok-to-cool story and a very engrossing world, like most first-in-the-series Bioware games) I don't think those guys are aware how much the hiveminds of the internet actively hate them for the mentioned reasons and their association with EA.
It's going to be quite sad to see them react to the massive hate-fest that i guarantee is coming. People will scream don't buy, don't preorder, and then, months later, "Hey was that game any good?"
Only Bioware's fanbase will prop them up and help them survive the initial hate-fest until the game is revealed to be a quality effort.
That's what my crystal ball says. It's a dark scenario.
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Post by invisibleman on Jan 10, 2018 23:48:00 GMT
Actually, when I bought XCOM 2 War of the Chosen recently I helped to create a demand for turn based strategy games on PC because demand is used in marketing to note how good or bad something is selling. We say there is a higher demand for MP focused games because those have a tendency to sell better right now than SP focused games. Things like Skyrim and The Witcher 3 are the exception here rather than the rule, because that statement never said that SP only games couldn't sell well. It doesn't really apply to gifts in this context because if EA offers me a free game on Origin I'm probably going to take it since it's free, even if I end up not playing it. Though I stand by my argument that unless BioWare is really going to step up their game in making a shooter(I would say ME3/Andromeda are pretty good, not amazing), they're still going to want their main target market they have a reputation for making games for. Obviously if they could step it up to amazing it wouldn't be needed. Blizzard had never made a FPS game before Overwatch and we all know how that worked out for them. The quantity of sales does not equate to demand. Demand for example was after the release of Halo 1. Gamers WANTED to play it online rather than just LAN and thus came Halo 2 with online MP. If ME3 never had MP, nobody would have complained. Cyberpunk 2077 will have MP, but nobody is really talking about it cause it is the SP that people want. if i may... just what are you two arguing about exactly? i was paying attention, though i seem to have lost the plot here. are you guys discussing whether or not multiplayer games in general have a steady demand? or if there's only a demand because they're the games publishers & developers prefer to flog at us? or if there was an equalizing movement of sorts to produce more single-player games to compete with the multiplayer market, there might be less demand for multiplayer titles? ---edit typo
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Post by darkway1 on Jan 11, 2018 10:39:11 GMT
DOES BIOWARE EVEN NEED THE BIOWARE FANBASE FOR ANTHEM?.......well,NO and I think that's kinda the whole point of Anthem,to expand beyond the rpg genre.
The truth is that Bioware exists in name only at this point,they have no real control over what they produce as EA's business model supersedes what ever creative/innovative talent Bioware has.EA has made it clear that it's "online service" is the way forward,a system that can be seen in action in pretty much ALL of EA's latest titles (not just Bioware's up and coming stuff).
EA's motivation and direction just doesn't work with the development of an RPG game.For EA,RPG's cost to much to develop,they takes to long to produce and cater towards a niche audience,Bioware just can't compete with the likes of DICE,who crank out money making games every two years,that effortlessly facilitate EA's microtransaction eco system.
Overall I think Anthem will be a great game,I think it will be a hit and I think it will make money.......will it make enough money for EA after such a long development time,I don't know?......but it's safe to say that Anthem was never intended for Bioware fans,it's for the mainstream masses because that's where the money is.
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