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Post by anarchy65 on Jan 10, 2019 13:50:09 GMT
Another series of games that is very overrated: Assassin's CreedA lot of people say that Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag is the best in the series, but I thought it was too repetitive. Too many missions that were 'clear this camp of enemies', or 'steal this', or 'follow this guy'. It was an okay game, but I expected more after all the praise Yeah, I stopped just before Black Flag, I still intend to play it someday. The naval battles were the only good thing in AC3, so maybe at least that is nice on AC 4
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Post by Tittus on Jul 19, 2020 3:59:58 GMT
Journey. It's worse than walking simulators, since it doesn't tell a clear story.
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Post by FireAndBlood on Jul 19, 2020 17:23:36 GMT
Shadow of Mordor.
On paper it’s sounds like a game I would be very much into but it never clicked for me.
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Post by michaeln7 on Jul 21, 2020 5:53:54 GMT
The Last of Us, and The Last of Us 2.
I'm not knocking story-driven games, as I was advocating FOR them before it was cool.
But seeing some of the surrounding news articles, regarding the second one especially... It just seems... excessive.
I know the zombie-genre is not a happy one (no kidding) but the story seems to focus so much on "man's inhumanity to man" that the Cordyceps mutation feels more like a tacked-on: "oh, by the way, while everyone is being terrible, this mold went bonkers and 'shroomed everybody".
It's why I don't consider myself a "fan" of anything anymore, because the word is derived from "fanatic" and that never goes in a good direction.
Too many are getting too attached to something that's technically fantasy and it bleeds over into real life in the worst possible ways.
It's sad when programmers, designers, and voice-actors get death-threats because they're just trying to do their job so they can support their family.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 1:34:41 GMT
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I've had a couple just recently- Outer Worlds and FF7 remake. Both very popular and well-received, but I just couldn't get into them. I felt like they butchered FF7- making an entire game out of a tiny portion of the original felt like a naked cash-grab to me, and the extra plot/story they added was mostly bad, and at times downright nonsensical. Which is a shame because the combat was quite good and the graphics were downright gorgeous. There is a good game there somewhere, hiding beneath the crap. I'll probably force myself to go back and finish it, but... ugh. Hopefully the next one is MUCH better.
And Outer Worlds just felt boring, a lazy Fallout clone, only this time in outer space! The characters felt blah, the environments felt blah, the combat and weapons felt blah, the story felt blah. It was a chore getting myself to play even a few hours of it. I doubt I'll ever play another minute of it.
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Post by LogicGunn on Jul 30, 2020 9:33:07 GMT
Greedfall. It got sevens to eights on reviews and a high score on Steam, but honestly I found that game to be a total chore to complete. I get how everyone was excited to have a dragon-age-esque RPG to play, and the story and setting were solid, but the gameplay and execution left a lot to be desired.
Also The Outer Worlds. I played a quarter of the game then gave up. I was hyped for it because Obsidian made my favourite ever Fallout game, but it was just too repetitive and dull in the end.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jul 30, 2020 11:29:13 GMT
Yeah, Outer Worlds was ultimately disappointing. I was afraid this was going to happen since the hype was so big. So I wasn't surprised.
Still. The most disappointing aspect was the hit and miss writing. Felt a lot like Andromeda sometimes which is NOT a good thing for me. Goofy socially awkward identity politics. Not you too, Obsidian... sigh.
And the replay value is a joke. I actually went ahead and played a second time as a corporate psycho up until reaching Byzantium. And it was 99% the same game. Most quests play out exactly the same way. I guess I quit from boredom right before the part where there might be the most differences, like ratting out the professor. I might finish it eventually. But that was all a big waste of time.
That said, despite my gripes I had a ton of fun the first time. I guess I was so starved for a nice old school RPG that anything half decent is acceptable. It's not a bad game at all. And for a AA game, it looked really good and was super polished and smooth as hell. I liked the art style a lot.
It was never going to beat NV. The scope of OW is so much smaller. But I dunno, the story needed to have more bite, I guess. I'm down with this being a comedy basically. I love that kind of humor. But somehow it was a lot blander than I hoped. Some of the companions were a snorefest... This game just made me want to replay FO4 and Mass Effect tbh. Made me realize there just is nothing else as awesome as Bioware's storytelling used to be. Or Bethesda's environmental design.
Outer Worlds is a solid 8/10 AA title for me that I wanted to be something amazing that would make me not cry over BioWare and Bethesda anymore. Ended up making me wonder if the Obsidian that made NV is dead too. Sigh.
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Post by bladefist on Aug 1, 2020 20:07:20 GMT
Easily the Witcher2 & 3. I'll never forget coming to the old forums to talk discuss DA2 and Skyrim only to read about how the Witcher does so and so better. I purchased both Witchers and I still can't finish them. However, I have 6 Hawkes and thousands of hours in Skyrim.
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Post by SassaMFG on Aug 2, 2020 13:52:21 GMT
Easily the Witcher2 & 3. I'll never forget coming to the old forums to talk discuss DA2 and Skyrim only to read about how the Witcher does so and so better. I purchased both Witchers and I still can't finish them. However, I have 6 Hawkes and thousands of hours in Skyrim. I couldn't agree more. It took me three years to finish TW3 GOTY, I will pick Andromeda over it any time.
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 3, 2020 15:09:03 GMT
Well I finished TW3 and not DA2. I honestly don't get what people find so hot with DA2. The story doesn't take off. You fight in the ever same dungeons. You backtrack a lot and end up having to rack up some amount of gold before the stroy continues. I quit playing it before the Deep Roads. TW1+2 I didn't finish either - they both had their own special flaws.
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Post by SassaMFG on Aug 3, 2020 17:50:06 GMT
Every game has its pros and cons. Dragons Dogma, for example has shitty story, but excelent combat, so it will push you through the story. Kingdoms of Amalur is almost the same thing. As for TW games, I enjoyed TW1, then they totally put white frost aside in TW2 and untill the wery end in TW3. DA2 did same thing as TW2, just to setup conclave at the start of DAI like TW2 did with Nilfgard invasion; ME2 did almost same thing, but didn't strayed to much from first game.
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Post by Gwydden on Aug 3, 2020 20:04:59 GMT
Being primarily a strategy gamer, I wondered for an instant what Total War has to do with anything. Which makes for a nice segway! As far as I can tell, TW is one of the most popular strategy franchises around. I have friends who adore the series. But, though I've tried to get into it multiple times (with Medieval 2, Shogun 2, and Empire), I just don't care for it. I guess I never got over the Dune 2 style of RTS. Why would you ditch the base building? Why would you make battles so messy and sluggish? *sigh*
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Post by SassaMFG on Aug 3, 2020 21:31:33 GMT
Being primarily a strategy gamer, I wondered for an instant what Total War has to do with anything. Which makes for a nice segway! As far as I can tell, TW is one of the most popular strategy franchises around. I have friends who adore the series. But, though I've tried to get into it multiple times (with Medieval 2, Shogun 2, and Empire), I just don't care for it. I guess I never got over the Dune 2 style of RTS. Why would you ditch the base building? Why would you make battles so messy and sluggish? *sigh* TW shortened for The Witcher. And since you mentioned Total War series, I like them, but they are time consuming, especially if you play every battle in real time.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 4, 2020 3:13:33 GMT
Quicker to list the games that aren't overrated, surely?
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Post by Vortex13 on Aug 4, 2020 15:43:43 GMT
Being primarily a strategy gamer, I wondered for an instant what Total War has to do with anything. Which makes for a nice segway! As far as I can tell, TW is one of the most popular strategy franchises around. I have friends who adore the series. But, though I've tried to get into it multiple times (with Medieval 2, Shogun 2, and Empire), I just don't care for it. I guess I never got over the Dune 2 style of RTS. Why would you ditch the base building? Why would you make battles so messy and sluggish? *sigh* Have you tried out Total War: Warhammer? I was of a similar opinion as you concerning the historical titles, but a fantasy TW is far more engaging (IMHO). Each of the different factions/race feels unique and offers a distinct style of play that helps with replayability. As for a game I feel is overrated? Apex Legends. Sad to see the developers of Titanfall reduced to making battle royale title.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Aug 4, 2020 18:53:26 GMT
Mass Effect.
Not that it was overrated (which it kinda is), more like it was overhyped for a mediocre franchise.
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Post by Sharable Horizon on Aug 4, 2020 23:39:55 GMT
Apex Legends. Sad to see the developers of Titanfall reduced to making battle royale title. God I’d kill for a new Titanfall. The amount of hours I sunk into two is insane (Monarch for life! ) As for overrated games, controversial opinion but I’m gonna say both the Mario and Zelda franchises. I’ve tried to appreciate them, but I just can’t connect with either of them! Might be because I was never a SNES kid, but it feels like Nintendo have been pumping out the same game for years and people still lap them up.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Aug 5, 2020 7:16:36 GMT
Apex Legends. Sad to see the developers of Titanfall reduced to making battle royale title. God I’d kill for a new Titanfall. The amount of hours I sunk into two is insane (Monarch for life! ) As for overrated games, controversial opinion but I’m gonna say both the Mario and Zelda franchises. I’ve tried to appreciate them, but I just can’t connect with either of them! Might be because I was never a SNES kid, but it feels like Nintendo have been pumping out the same game for years and people still lap them up. This ^ I played the British sprite monster games with platforming on the ELITE Commodore 64 before NES even existed, and then Mario came. It was meh, except for one reason, movement was done excellently. Before Zelda I played RPG games on C64 and Zelda 1 is still the only game on NES I would recommended on the platform. I think NES/SNES wasnt much here where I live anyway as we got better machines already then with lots of games to choose from. From Nintendo line I think SNES had best games as it had more than just Nintendo games. I checked what was available on Switch and didnt find any game I would actually like to play, yes I am very picky also =)
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 5, 2020 8:03:55 GMT
Being primarily a strategy gamer, I wondered for an instant what Total War has to do with anything. Which makes for a nice segway! As far as I can tell, TW is one of the most popular strategy franchises around. I have friends who adore the series. But, though I've tried to get into it multiple times (with Medieval 2, Shogun 2, and Empire), I just don't care for it. I guess I never got over the Dune 2 style of RTS. Why would you ditch the base building? Why would you make battles so messy and sluggish? *sigh* The campaign map is your base in TW. Not having a base in battle: You make army "builds", work with what you have. Some TW even gave "skill progression" to your armies. It's a bit of RPG mechanics which works well. The late TW WH are greatly detailed and concentrate more on silly fun while still having solid battle mechanics. Here characters integrated into army as units take on the RPG stuff.
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 5, 2020 8:15:37 GMT
Speaking of TW - I tried the latest 3 Kingdoms iteration and it's a very polished, good production, but somehow not very fun game to play. It's got somewhat intriguing "family tree" faction management but in the end the campaign map and faction placement is a big letdown. Unit variety is like 10% of the Warhammer roster and while the heroes in WH were whacky fun, the OP generals just don't work so well outside the fantasy setting.
Also found the army limitations way too excessive and research of new units almost never paid off because the "better" troops were only marginally better while being prohibitively expensive. The TW formula just worked really well with the WH setting, imo.
Edit: And the AI cheats so bad in 3 Kingdoms. AI always cheat, but this one blatantly ignores game rules. I found it annoying that trying to lower morale / approval with agents never worked in other TW games but 3 Kingdoms dials the cheesy cheating up to eleven. It's OK at easiest level, but that isn't much of a challenge. Anything above was just very WTF - level of annoying.
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Post by river82 on Aug 5, 2020 21:35:32 GMT
Easily the Witcher2 & 3. I'll never forget coming to the old forums to talk discuss DA2 and Skyrim only to read about how the Witcher does so and so better. I purchased both Witchers and I still can't finish them. However, I have 6 Hawkes and thousands of hours in Skyrim. It's not hard to do "such and such" better than Skyrim - Bethesda have exploring down pat but much of everything else is only okay. And speaking of Bethesda, I put forward Oblivion. A game so terrible it couldn't even do the exploration thing well "you had ONE JOB". Pointless dialogue mini games, easily being able to pick every lock in the game with 5 skill points, empty generic world, bland dungeons, axes as blunt weapons, a central story which gets harder to complete the more you level up, terrible animations, mindless filler dialogue, quests that are not only fetch quests but feel completely disconnected from the world, glitchy and soulless as hell.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 6, 2020 0:24:17 GMT
Easily the Witcher2 & 3. I'll never forget coming to the old forums to talk discuss DA2 and Skyrim only to read about how the Witcher does so and so better. I purchased both Witchers and I still can't finish them. However, I have 6 Hawkes and thousands of hours in Skyrim. It's not hard to do "such and such" better than Skyrim - Bethesda have exploring down pat but much of everything else is only okay. And speaking of Bethesda, I put forward Oblivion. A game so terrible it couldn't even do the exploration thing well "you had ONE JOB". Pointless dialogue mini games, easily being able to pick every lock in the game with 5 skill points, empty generic world, bland dungeons, axes as blunt weapons, a central story which gets harder to complete the more you level up, terrible animations, mindless filler dialogue, quests that are not only fetch quests but feel completely disconnected from the world, glitchy and soulless as hell. With the way that levelling up worked, though, it was easy to break.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 6, 2020 2:54:14 GMT
Gotta be Spec Ops: The Line the game had boring and generic gameplay in which you have to place your back behind chest high walls and shoot a thousand enemy's and watch their heads explode and a shoddily written story in which the game goes meta and yells at you for doing what it asked. Maybe the game's twists and turns would've worked if the writers didn't decide to become self-righteous and condemn you for no reason other than the fact that you are playing a game. Seriously it's like Spec Ops written by Jack Thompson the way it says "DO YOU FEEL LIKE A HERO YET?!" I found the game to be insulting the way it assumed that you're some dumb COD player who mindlessly plays shooters.
Hey game perhaps I like shooters but I like a good story! You know what has a better executed story than yours? The Modern Warfare Trilogy! They got their themes crossed much better than your hypocritical abomination and it didn't make assumptions about what player you are. I mean Black Ops did their dark themes better than Spec Ops. I've heard that the writer said that the best way to prevent that incident which affects the characters is to turn off the game. If that's the case than I want my money back devs, you don't force me to commit that atrocity and then blame me ALL GAME for doing what you ASKED ME TO in a situation that YOU CREATED!
The game to me was less of an examination of violence and more of an examination of people who hate COD because it seems that the people who sing its praises are COD haters. They assume that COD fans are just delusional shooter bros addicted to violence maybe if these COD haters actually played COD they can realize that their stories were actually pretty good unlike Spec Ops.
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Post by cszoltan on Aug 6, 2020 9:41:27 GMT
Easily the Witcher2 & 3. I'll never forget coming to the old forums to talk discuss DA2 and Skyrim only to read about how the Witcher does so and so better. I purchased both Witchers and I still can't finish them. However, I have 6 Hawkes and thousands of hours in Skyrim. Witcher 2 and 3 are among my favourite games...yet I still think Witcher 3 is one of the most overrated game ever. The way people talk about it it's almost like it's the undisputed best game, and nothing comes close, when actually plenty games do. Also they have horrible gameplay, can't fathom how people can overlook that.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Aug 8, 2020 19:17:24 GMT
The Witcher 2 was an over-rated piece of crap.
Greed Fall it tried but the story, characters, and the world was boring and everything else just so bland.
Mass Effect 1 taking off the nostalgia goggles this really isn't that great of a game, Saren is the WORST BioWare villain and all of the squadmates are just walking codex entries explaining how this universe works. Played in 2020 this game would be decried as a horrible game with boring character, lousy gameplay, boring worlds, and annoying fetch quests, and stories that aren't wrapped up in the first game.
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