[Day/Night Game] Trouble on the Citadel - round "LE Part 2: Why Cerberus Is Right For You"

Yeah I'll vote Dadi too since he's trying to pile on me.

Untrue. I participated in questioning already (which just happened to take place during the night round because some of us weren't paying attention), and speculated as to why the spies might be trying to frame me by eliminating gervaise rather than taking the opportunity to get rid of someone with a deactivated ability. Unfortunately, no one else joined in this speculation, and I don't have any more ideas on that myself. There are just too many variables, depending one which of the deactivated roles (if any) are spies.

You then made two claims that I have been trying to understand your justification for: 1) Jacob is not in the game, and 2) I am Conrad. Pushing back on claims is part of this game, which you ought to know by now, especially if you are accusing said player of being a spy  The pushback can help show the rest of the players why the accusation is not true, and it can help other players to follow the reasoning of the accuser. This sort of discussion happens every game, and a player's responses to that pushback can provide better information than just role hints, since some players just lie about the hints anyway.




I explained why I chose to vote for you specifically, and I waited overnight for more input before voting. 

As far as not getting caught in a non-voter tiebreaker, do you seriously expect other players to not vote at this point? After pela's stunt, if anyone doesn't turn up to vote, I'm going to worry that something happened to them irl, or that they've simply lost interest in the game. Would you rather potentially lose multiple heroes in a non-voter tiebreaker?


They are if that person makes claims that they can't actually back up  Before, when you and reed were the ones fishing for more information, you both were slightly suspicious to me (not very), but there wasn't much to go on, which is why I didn't actually place my vote at that time. I waited for more discussion and the insight it could bring.



But why do you think this? What is telling you that space lied and seven told the truth? I don't get it.



Please don't put words in my mouth I said that because of the danger of a non-voter tiebreaker (see above the possibility of losing multiple heroes), that I would be voting soon, and you and reed were my choices at that time, but that I wanted more info first. On the other hand, seven is actually voting for reed, and yet you think seven is innocent. I don't get this.


If anyone else is seeing something here that I'm missing, please chime in. I looked over dadi's possible roles to see if he could possibly have extra information, but even if he's Mordin, he wouldn't necessarily know anything unless someone managed to save themselves overnight using one of his devices, and I don't think that has happened.

I can guarantee you this pattern is either coincidental or pela made a mistake. If you're actually a hero, then please, let go of this whole Dragon-is-Conrad thing for just a moment and think about what I'm trying to tell you.

And once again, to really drive the point home, my strategy of wanting people to not give out any more role information makes no sense if I am Conrad. None. If I were Conrad, I would have gone along with your strategy of asking more questions, under the guise of gathering more information about who the spies are, just like you're doing.



Interesting how you are ignoring the context. My post was directly in response to gervaise saying they targeted me for elimination as Khalisah and how the spies are probably trying to frame me, so yeah, my speculation was about me. However, since I am in the small group of players whose ability is currently deactivated, it's possible this information could have been used to speculate: why wouldn't the spies take this opportunity to eliminate a role while it was unable to hurt them? Could the spies own roles have led them to think this wouldn't be a helpful strategy? I don't know, and I brought it up in hopes people would discuss that.

Instead, I'm stuck explaining over and over again why I'm not Conrad, and trying to get you to explain your seemingly baseless assertions. You have finally done so only now (the pattern above). 



The rest of your paragraph is only true if the pattern you see is actually what pela is doing, and again, it isn't (or pela messed up). By now, you ought to be able to figure out what role I'm claiming, Conrad be damned. At least your piling on Space no longer seems random. I still think you're wrong about this pattern, but I'm willing to believe that you are just a very mistaken hero instead of a spy causing chaos, so I would need an alternative voting target. Whether that target is space or reed depends entirely upon whether the pattern was intentional but pela messed up, or whether you are wrong about the pattern.

We still have 9 hours, so hopefully there will be time for you to respond. I'll think about the other players in the mean time. I may need to just switch to reed since he's potentially Conrad.

Damn it, now I have to read things

I suppose I'll do as I said I would and switch my vote from dadi to reed. Reed can then come in and at least put himself in a tiebreaker. I do have one vote change left, so I'll try to check in again before time runs out.

So I read the posts since last time I was here and I'd just like to add that a lot of this is based off of you all believing everything that everyone has said when asked a question. How are we to know if everyone is telling the truth about their roles especially if they are a spy?

To answer the question asked of me by dadi, I am actually unsure of the answer regarding alliance service.

Regarding me being suspicious for trying to find more information. To be honest, it was a simple case of not thinking through how it would make me look. It was day time and I was like well, how am I going to vote with nothing to go on? This lets me to my next thought and something that dadi I believe brought up:

Considering the game has gone so well for the spies, would it not potentially behoove the spies to instead of looking for info and shooting themselves in the foot/getting suspicions brought upon them to sit back and be rather quiet? Considering this, I'm actually leaning more toward perhaps Seven/Space being the spies and laughing it up as the heroes attack each other for trying to find reasons to vote. If gervaise was correct in their assumption of a spy being caught in the tiebreaker then I would honestly be leaning toward that person being seven.

But would a spy vote first? This makes me unsure. Or maybe I'm biased because he voted for me? lmfao

As I've also noticed it seems I'm in the lead with 2 votes? (Dragon and Seven) and Dadi and Space have exchanged votes.

So barring any change of heart the best I can do is another tie breaker. Meaning I could tie myself with either Dadi or Space. I think that Dadi is just being misinterpreted and is actually innocent and space has been rather quiet, thus

I think I shall vote for Space

I need a drink after this round

Not long after she landed on Omega, Aria gave Shepard much needed information on where Archangel is and how to reach him. She also gave her the necessary information on where to reach Mordin as well. It seems all Shepard had to do was join a local mercernary recruitment job in order to find her next recruit. So after sniffing around to catch her trail and a few deceptive tricks, Shepard has finally reached Archangel and his hideout in Omega. There's only one problem though: Archangel has managed to piss off every major mercernary group in Omega, and they are not intending on keeping him alive for very long. So now it's up to Shepard to fight her way out of the hideout and Omega with her old friend intact.

This is where you two come in, Space and reed. Along with Shepard and her newest (well, oldest) recruit, you two are essentially surrounded by the mercenary groups intending to kill Archangel and anyone who is helping him. After quickly disposing the Eclipse, now it's the Blood Pack gang who wants blood. Right after Shepard closed the necessary shutters to prevent any more Blood Pack mercs from spilling in, it seems Garm has had enough and wants the vigilante for himself.
Before Shepard makes it back, he spots you two and doesn't seem like he simply wants to chat. On top of this, he has two deadly vorcha right behind him. Meanwhile, Garrus is currently occupied with sniping incoming Blood Packs closing in on the hideout, so it seems it's just the two of you versus the leader of the gang. Garm has a big shotgun, and he seems well protected. What will you two do to survive this deadly encounter?


1. Fist Fight Garm and his vorcha head on.
2. Convince Garm and his vorcha that you're actually a merc trying to Kill Archangel as well.
3. Unload countless grenades and rockets on Garm and his vorcha.