[Day/Night Game] Trouble on the Citadel - round "LE Part 2: Why Cerberus Is Right For You"

The best weapons in regards to highest damage for Mass Effect 2;

Assault Rifles -
M-96 Mattock, base dmg 50.

Shotgun -
M-300 Claymore, base dmg 50

Sniper Rifles -
M-92 Mantis, base dmg 263
M-98 Widow, base dmg 368, slower firing rate

Submachine Guns -
M-4 Shuriken, base dmg 20
M-12 Locust, base dmg 25 ( only available via Kasumi DLC)

Heavy Pistols -
M-5 Phalanx, base dmg 109

Heavy Weapons -
M-100 Grenade Launcher, base dmg 500
M-490 Blackstorm, base dmg 500
M-920 Cain, base dmg 10 000

Mass Effect 3 is another story since they ramped up biotics and introduced more powerful weapons.

Well now, I can sit back and shake a leg.

I must humbly beg for Garromice's forgiveness. 




We may well be screwed at this point. If there were initially two spies, then we've got three heroes and one spy in play.

If there were initially three spies, then we're 2-2. Even if the heroes successfully vote off a spy, the remaining one will eliminate one of the heroes, and then we'll be left with a coin flip to decide this game.

If there were initially four spies, then I'm sharing this day round with three of them, and no matter what I do, they're going to get me tonight. That will be...different 



My remaining suspicion was fylimar, but every one of my votes has been wrong this game, so I'm not ready to vote for her (or anyone).


For future rounds, you all seem to want Liara to be automatically good, but any other role could be good or evil. Are you sure about that? It means that no one will be able to "prove" themselves by using their ability.

Unless we restrict ability usage to only help one's own side, eliminating some of the confusion. So, bad Garrus can only shoot a hero, bad Kasumi could maybe use her powers to identify the actual role of another hero, bad Miranda could save a fellow spy from Garrus. There is still the issue of Tali and Legion, that if Tali is bad and Legion is good, the spies will know immediately who Legion is.


Which actually brings up a good point regarding fylimar. If fylimar is evil and smiles is good, then why didn't smiles die early in the game? Are they both spies? Or is fylimar actually a hero?

That's so true. Although to be honest, in DAO I misjudged the tone of dialogue options even more tham with the wheel. I got me in trouble with Ali a lot in my first playtrough



You're forgiven
I have made some bad choices in the beginning and trying to fix them only dug my grave further.


Good luck heroes (or hero)! You might actually need it.

Romice, I am truly sorry and ask forgiveness too. I really thought the evidence was strong but clearly I was wrong. It would seem that none of the established means of identifying spies seem to work this time round and the confusion of the first round set the tone for the rest of the game. I shall have to think long and carefully before doing anything this round.

Nah, don't feel hurt. We do better in Skyhold because roles can actually prove themselves without being second guessed. I think allowing that is too extreme. I kept thinking the spies were being much trickier than they were, other than adonniel.

Pela seems to suggest that either gervaise21 or I am a spy. Gervaise fell off my suspect list due to trying so hard to find the spy, or so it appeared. I have further thoughts here, but I don't want to pluck them out on a phone, so I'll explain tonight.

If fylimar is a spy, than so is smiles due to their roles and smiles still being alive (assuming the Legion claim isn't false). If fylimar is a hero, then that says nothing about smiles. If smiles is really Legion, then there is no point voting for him since he won't allow himself to be voted off. If he's evil, then he might as well use his ability this round to eliminated a/the remaining hero.

Any known heros have thoughts?

Dragon: I really don't know at the moment. I will be away a few hours, maybe, I have some idea, when I#m back. It is really hard to figure things out, if everyone might be a spy. It's fun, but hard.


But the good news is : I finished the archangel mission and future MR. Shepard is save . I managed the garage in the first try and died once in the fight against that krogan merc, because I couldn't get my Shep to move again. But the second try went smoothly and we destroyed the ship and saved Garrus

I do like Mordin, the nerdy doctor. He is kind of cute in his very warped strange way. I think my future dreamteam might be Mordin and Garrus

For me he is a tie in with Varric. At least Garrus is romanceable

So is Cullen btw.

Got to love the type.

Paragon and renegade are organized like that yes. I don't think there a relationship meter so I doubt you can screw up a romance. Don't quote me on that.

But yes it makes sense even for a renegade to be nice to their love interest.

Except I haven't the foggiest which one of those answers = flirt option. I wish they'd make our life easier in this aspect DA2 and DAI style.

I'm also worried about accidentally triggering something with Jacob. He keeps trying to hit on Shep. I was mean to him, but the last conversation didn't even give a mean option - guessing the meanest one was 'they've lost a good man' and the rest looked entirely like flirting. Good thing I didn't have a thing with anyone in ME1.

I generally avoid talking to him after the initial questions about his background but definitely, after Mordin comes aboard, I will ask him about the Normandy upgrades. If Shep continues to talk to him in later stages, he will ask Shep what are her intentions; if her questions are leading somewhere. That is the point where you have to choose to romance him or not. Even if you talk little to him, he will ask to speak to Shep about his loyalty mission later.

Btw, please talk to all your companions about Normandy upgrades after Mordin comes aboard. VERY IMPORTANT!