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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 19:43:15 GMT
So, good folks, how long the SP campaign need to be for you to purchase Anthem?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 20:00:32 GMT
I think I will buy it if (or when) the campaign reaches half the length of the ideal just SP game length for me (in other words 15 to 20 hrs).
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Nov 20, 2017 20:44:22 GMT
Since I'd buy it with 0 hours of SP, I voted for any length. But obviously more is better.
BTW, 30+ seems low as the large choice. 40 is the usual AAA standard for "full length" SP campaigns.
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Post by Heimdall on Nov 20, 2017 20:46:25 GMT
20-30 is my ideal range, but I wouldn’t be upset at a 15+ hour campaign. But Bioware will need a solid endgame of repeatable activities if they want to retain the Destiny audience.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 20:52:38 GMT
Since I'd buy it with 0 hours of SP, I voted for any length. But obviously more is better. BTW, 30+ seems low as the large choice. 40 is the usual AAA standard for "full length" SP campaigns. For a full SP campaign on a mainly SP game. I do understand that nowadays if it's not 50+ hours, it ain't a game, but I assume that the filler OW part is farmed out to the end-game and MP mode or whatever solo-substitute for MP is going to be, and the SP campaign is linear instanced like in SWTOR.
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Post by Sanunes on Nov 20, 2017 21:07:03 GMT
I don't care about the length, I would just want a good campaign. Padding out good content to hit some arbitrary mark to make people happy just ruins the game. That is what happened to me with both Dragon Age: Inquisition and Mass Effect: Andromeda. They padded both of those games out to give the mythical long play time. With Inquisition I can at least skip all the annoying padding to make the game more enjoyable, but with the planet hopping and exploration of Andromeda it felt like a near impossible task to try and make a shorter game out of that game design.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 21:25:24 GMT
I don't care about the length, I would just want a good campaign. Padding out good content to hit some arbitrary mark to make people happy just ruins the game. That is what happened to me with both Dragon Age: Inquisition and Mass Effect: Andromeda. They padded both of those games out to give the mythical long play time. With Inquisition I can at least skip all the annoying padding to make the game more enjoyable, but with the planet hopping and exploration of Andromeda it felt like a near impossible task to try and make a shorter game out of that game design. Right, the length I am asking about is the linear, story-only, instanced length without the OW/MP component. At least with Anthem being an openly MP title, there will be no need to do the solo-MMO portions that plague the Inquisition. It will be (one would hope) appropriately delegated where it belongs, in MP. So, think the story portions of SWTOR, Andromeda and Inquisition, or ME2/DA2 style content only. How many hours of it you need to buy the game? Mainly asking because BF2 has only 6 or so hours at $80, then the MP and like-MP stuff.
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Post by Sanunes on Nov 20, 2017 22:43:00 GMT
I don't care about the length, I would just want a good campaign. Padding out good content to hit some arbitrary mark to make people happy just ruins the game. That is what happened to me with both Dragon Age: Inquisition and Mass Effect: Andromeda. They padded both of those games out to give the mythical long play time. With Inquisition I can at least skip all the annoying padding to make the game more enjoyable, but with the planet hopping and exploration of Andromeda it felt like a near impossible task to try and make a shorter game out of that game design. Right, the length I am asking about is the linear, story-only, instanced length without the OW/MP component. At least with Anthem being an openly MP title, there will be no need to do the solo-MMO portions that plague the Inquisition. It will be (one would hope) appropriately delegated where it belongs, in MP. So, think the story portions of SWTOR, Andromeda and Inquisition, or ME2/DA2 style content only. How many hours of it you need to buy the game? Mainly asking because BF2 has only 6 or so hours at $80, then the MP and like-MP stuff. Gotcha. For me I don't think I have a real expectation of length, I just want to have fun with it. I am also one of those strange people that would be willing to see the prices of games to go up if it mean the removal of microtransactions and lootboxes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 23:21:18 GMT
Right, the length I am asking about is the linear, story-only, instanced length without the OW/MP component. At least with Anthem being an openly MP title, there will be no need to do the solo-MMO portions that plague the Inquisition. It will be (one would hope) appropriately delegated where it belongs, in MP. So, think the story portions of SWTOR, Andromeda and Inquisition, or ME2/DA2 style content only. How many hours of it you need to buy the game? Mainly asking because BF2 has only 6 or so hours at $80, then the MP and like-MP stuff. Gotcha. For me I don't think I have a real expectation of length, I just want to have fun with it. I am also one of those strange people that would be willing to see the prices of games to go up if it mean the removal of microtransactions and lootboxes. I feel you. I am in the “can I just pay subscription and have a fun experience rather than attempting to calculate which piecemeal stuff I need to buy to avoid grinding what I don’t want to, but have gear for what I want to do.” I have no quarrel for different rewards reserved for different types of activities, and for people being able to buy whatever cosmetics they want. But I am really against making the games grindy to force purchases of gear or rare mats. As long as each way of playing (solo, mp pvp, mp pvp) readily supplies gear good enough to succeed in this very mode, and each mode is easy to start in a gear set available to all, without being trashed, but the topmost gear is earned through grinds, I am fine.
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Post by coldsteelblue on Nov 21, 2017 0:26:59 GMT
Voted for between 20 & 30 hours for some solid SP gaming, just hope there's actually some variance in the gameplay though & not just go from point A to point B & kill a boat load of enemies (looking at you the yawnfest that is Density 2).
Any variance & decent story is what will ultimately sell me the game, or not.
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Post by Cyonan on Nov 21, 2017 1:02:20 GMT
Generally for a SP campaign I expect around 15-20 hours at least(I also tend to go through story games faster than most people), though since I'm more going to be interested in this game for the MP side of things I went with any length.
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Post by Gandalf the Fabulous on Nov 21, 2017 3:03:14 GMT
So do we currently know anything about plans for a single player campaign? I know it has been stated that you CAN play the game solo but you can also play Destiny or Guild Wars Solo as well as many other multiplayer focused titles.
Kind of thought the focus with Anthem was mostly on the multiplayer aspects of the game with any single player option mostly being watered down instances of the standard gameplay one would expect to find in the multiplayer portions.
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Post by PillarBiter on Nov 21, 2017 7:42:31 GMT
Well I'm probably buying it (holding fast on not preordering.... currently). But I would hope for at the very least 40 hours. If not, why even call it an rpg?
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Post by Pounce de León on Nov 21, 2017 10:44:41 GMT
I don't think it will have a remarkable SP. I expect strong MP focus with rather tacked-on SP. FPS shooter style.
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Post by Heimdall on Nov 21, 2017 12:23:56 GMT
Well I'm probably buying it (holding fast on not preordering.... currently). But I would hope for at the very least 40 hours. If not, why even call it an rpg?I don't think EA is calling it an RPG But Bioware has repeatedly referred to it as an RPG, so I don’t know what to think.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Nov 21, 2017 12:37:33 GMT
I don't think EA is calling it an RPG But Bioware has repeatedly referred to it as an RPG, so I don’t know what to think. Their calling it a "Shared-world RPG" whatever the hell that means. I think there trying to spin it without making people compare it to Destiny. Any length really I'm more concerned with how I'm going to play the game then length issues.
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Post by Pounce de León on Nov 21, 2017 12:50:47 GMT
I don't think EA is calling it an RPG But Bioware has repeatedly referred to it as an RPG, so I don’t know what to think. When the head honcho says it's not an RPG - don`t expect an RPG.
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Post by Heimdall on Nov 21, 2017 14:41:33 GMT
But Bioware has repeatedly referred to it as an RPG, so I don’t know what to think. When the head honcho says it's not an RPG - don`t expect an RPG. When it’s the word of the developers working on the game versus the CEO who’s more concerned about which description will make it marketable to a larger audience, I think the word of the developers (not to mention the official description on the website) deserves some weight.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 14:44:40 GMT
Well, my whole premise is that we do not know, but to ask one own self: how long of an SP will be good enough for me to purchase it.
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Post by Pounce de León on Nov 21, 2017 14:46:30 GMT
When the head honcho says it's not an RPG - don`t expect an RPG. When it’s the word of the developers working on the game versus the CEO who’s more concerned about which description will make it marketable to a larger audience, I think the word of the developers (not to mention the official description on the website) deserves some weight. Head honcho has the last say and the minions will comply. That's how it works.
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Post by Heimdall on Nov 21, 2017 14:51:47 GMT
When it’s the word of the developers working on the game versus the CEO who’s more concerned about which description will make it marketable to a larger audience, I think the word of the developers (not to mention the official description on the website) deserves some weight. Head honcho has the last say and the minions will comply. That's how it works. Then why would the “minions” and the official description contradict him? It seems more likely he doesn’t want the game to be trapped in the more niche RPG audience and insisted it was an action game.
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Post by Pounce de León on Nov 21, 2017 14:54:22 GMT
Well, my whole premise is that we do not know, but to ask one own self: how long of an SP will be good enough for me to purchase it. That's not the point. SP length doesn't determine its quality. If I believe the MP might be fun I might buy for the MP. If I am convinced there is a good campaign I buy it for SP. I wouldn't want to play something less than a Alien Isolation playthrough takes. Or Doom 2016. Then again I don't always finish playthroughs if I get to develop the character enough and can climb mountains or check off my own challenges I impose.
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Post by Pounce de León on Nov 21, 2017 14:57:58 GMT
Head honcho has the last say and the minions will comply. That's how it works. Then why would the “minions” and the official description contradict him? It seems more likely he doesn’t want the game to be trapped in the more niche RPG audience and insisted it was an action game. No it doesn't seem more likely. He just said that it isn't an RPG. Maybe he has no idea of games, but then again he's CEO of a multi-billion video game publisher.
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Post by Heimdall on Nov 21, 2017 15:00:34 GMT
Then why would the “minions” and the official description contradict him? It seems more likely he doesn’t want the game to be trapped in the more niche RPG audience and insisted it was an action game. No it doesn't seem more likely. He just said that it isn't an RPG. Maybe he has no idea of games, but then again he's CEO of a multi-billion video game publisher. Which still doesn’t explain why everyone except the CEO is calling it an RPG. The classification difference strikes me as mostly a marketing one.
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