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Post by Sanunes on Jan 9, 2018 21:16:22 GMT
I would've agreed up until 2017. They're having to deal with political donors and investors that have helped wreck it's image. The lawsuits are a symptom of it and I only see it getting worse before it gets better because it takes a long time to unwind all that investor money. That is true, not to mention all the changing staff as well since they have taken the stance of a crunch developer. If people were forecasting the doom and gloom of BioWare when someone leaves BioWare, it is far worse employee turnover there especially when it comes to developers that have experience elsewhere in the industry. The response from CDPR about crunch is what really bothers me and the lack of response from their fans. I can only imagine what the internet would do if EA made a comment like "This approach to making games is not for everyone" like CDPR did. Now I am not a fan of Glassdoor since it is pretty much a rumor mill, but if a person believed everything posted there about BioWare then you should read everything posted there about CDPR and give it the same credibility. Personally I don't consider it credible so its all a grain of salt to me.
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Post by rras1994 on Jan 9, 2018 21:23:46 GMT
I would've agreed up until 2017. They're having to deal with political donors and investors that have helped wreck it's image. The lawsuits are a symptom of it and I only see it getting worse before it gets better because it takes a long time to unwind all that investor money. That is true, not to mention all the changing staff as well since they have taken the stance of a crunch developer. If people were forecasting the doom and gloom of BioWare when someone leaves BioWare, it is far worse employee turnover there especially when it comes to developers that have experience elsewhere in the industry. The response from CDPR about crunch is what really bothers me and the lack of response from their fans. I can only imagine what the internet would do if EA made a comment like "This approach to making games is not for everyone" like CDPR did. Now I am not a fan of Glassdoor since it is pretty much a rumor mill, but if a person believed everything posted there about BioWare then you should read everything posted there about CDPR and give it the same credibility. Personally I don't consider it credible so its all a grain of salt to me. I considered the Glassdoor reviews credible when in their PR statement about it CDPR didn't deny it was true and basically said if you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen. That and the fact the Glassdoor reviews have doubled since that inciddent with even the ones being positive towards CDPR saying they work long hours and that it's cus they are so passionate about games (sounds suspiciously like their PR statement) and some were out and out calling out people for saying things behind CDPR's back. It seems very off to me - considering Ask a Game Dev also mentioned they were a constant crunch culture, and I find most of what they write seems to be very accurate, I'm going with there's some credibility in the Glassdoor rumours - specially as it wasn't the first time it was rumoured. I'll admit that I'm prob biased as their PR statement made me very mad as I found it very blase in dealing with a very serious issue.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 9, 2018 21:40:41 GMT
That is true, not to mention all the changing staff as well since they have taken the stance of a crunch developer. If people were forecasting the doom and gloom of BioWare when someone leaves BioWare, it is far worse employee turnover there especially when it comes to developers that have experience elsewhere in the industry. The response from CDPR about crunch is what really bothers me and the lack of response from their fans. I can only imagine what the internet would do if EA made a comment like "This approach to making games is not for everyone" like CDPR did. Now I am not a fan of Glassdoor since it is pretty much a rumor mill, but if a person believed everything posted there about BioWare then you should read everything posted there about CDPR and give it the same credibility. Personally I don't consider it credible so its all a grain of salt to me. I considered the Glassdoor reviews credible when in their PR statement about it CDPR didn't deny it was true and basically said if you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen. That and the fact the Glassdoor reviews have doubled since that inciddent with even the ones being positive towards CDPR saying they work long hours and that it's cus they are so passionate about games (sounds suspiciously like their PR statement) and some were out and out calling out people for saying things behind CDPR's back. It seems very off to me - considering Ask a Game Dev also mentioned they were a constant crunch culture, and I find most of what they write seems to be very accurate, I'm going with there's some credibility in the Glassdoor rumours - specially as it wasn't the first time it was rumoured. I'll admit that I'm prob biased as their PR statement made me very mad as I found it very blase in dealing with a very serious issue. I should have been more clear, I just need something besides just Glassdoor for me to completely trust what is being distributed there. CDPR pretty much confirmed all the accusations against them.
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Post by LogicGunn on Jan 9, 2018 21:48:57 GMT
Can't help but wonder how much more productive CDPR could be combining their ideas with a larger parent company's resources at it's fingertips...it's a double edged sword all this EAesque malarkey. I agree, we do not know. But I just wanted to point out in my OP that CDPR's development strategy and productivity is not compatible with what BioWARE was going for when they went looking for backing. Bio was always about multiple parallel IPs and trying to produce games more frequently rather than less. And tbh, I hope they stay with that idea, because while some folks are ready to wait for many years for a release, I am not big on either polish or tons of content, I want to see more worlds, meet more characters, and play through more stories. Oh, no I totally agree. One well received game isn't comparable to multiple successful franchises in the least. And a dev cycle with no clear endpoint isn't a good way to go. I'm not a fan of the "dev crunch" idea, but not having a close enough finish line makes things sloppy. The pursuit of perfection kills the passion IMHO.
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Post by goishen on Jan 9, 2018 22:15:05 GMT
That's one of the things about upper management. They can sure push shit downhill at an individual, but when it comes to their asses being on the line? They love to spread shit around everywhere so that if it anybody gets fired? It ain't them. I very highly doubt that any upper management jobs have been lost, besides Aaryn Flynn.
I dunno though. I'm hoping that it will be a huge hit, I'm just expecting another turd though.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 9, 2018 22:42:30 GMT
That's one of the things about upper management. They can sure push shit downhill at an individual, but when it comes to their asses being on the line? They love to spread shit around everywhere so that if it anybody gets fired? It ain't them. I very highly doubt that any upper management jobs have been lost, besides Aaryn Flynn. I dunno though. I'm hoping that it will be a huge hit, I'm just expecting another turd though. Upper management would only take a hit if they directly had an impact on the game's development. EA is pretty much the financial backer from what I have read over the years where they would give money for the games and ask for certain features to be implemented such as mtx. To me a lot of the problems were at the management level of BioWare Montreal and not within EA where they lost focus of the game itself and didn't understand when things needed to be cut or redesigned combine with what sounds to be HR problems.
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Post by Guts on Jan 10, 2018 10:05:57 GMT
Honestly, I think gaming journalism and the free-for-all cesspit of youtube clickbait is going to kill off all kinds of creativity and independent thought. Mob mentality in action. No one is allowed to enjoy anything any more. Devs have to make a game to an exacting list of preferences of the masses and god help them if they deviate. There is this toxic strain of thought at the moment that Indie is good and Corp is bad, and that kind of black and white mentality is going to crumble everything. LogicGunn! You said it. I'm not going to attract large audiences like Sterling or AJ or anyone that does that for a living. My focus is to do 6-10 minute videos of specific content and avoid bashing, cursing and melodrama. I want to be friendly for an entire audience of 7-8 years old and up. Some games with their mature content rating will cause me to prompt the video with a warning, but I want to ENJOY the product. I want to share the experience and get others to do the same with me (maybe a Twitch stream... I can hear the loud chorus of "git gud." That may be my anthem.) I want to bring developers who know and trust I won't crap all over them or ask them questions that would jeopardize their NDA. It's fluff and softball, but it's... what I want.Speaking of Jim Fucking Sterling Son (Man I love saying that), two things: 1. Did you see that pink Darth Vader armor mod? 2. I looked at his video where an analyst predicted that Anthem would have "Cosmetic-Only" lootboxes, and I think Jim Sterling said the same thing I said about EA, at this point, even if EA does start to show some good behavior, it's only a matter of time before they fall back into their shitty old habits. (Buying out studios like Respawn Entertainment, closing down beloved studios, even though Visceral was actually a studio formed from EA and not a company that got bought out, it's the same deal, and their shitty micro-transaction practices, like what we got in BattleFront 2, a combination of Pay-2-Win AND in an already $60 game.) I'm kinda surprised that EA screwed the pooch by making Pay 2 Win even worse, but then again, it's EA. *Rant over*
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Post by Guts on Jan 10, 2018 10:14:17 GMT
That's one of the things about upper management. They can sure push shit downhill at an individual, but when it comes to their asses being on the line? They love to spread shit around everywhere so that if it anybody gets fired? It ain't them. I very highly doubt that any upper management jobs have been lost, besides Aaryn Flynn. I dunno though. I'm hoping that it will be a huge hit, I'm just expecting another turd though.Same mindset here. I won't buy Anthem because I already got Destiny 1, but at this point Bioware NEEDS to make at the very least, isn't a disappointment to a lot of people. (Otherwise there's a risk, possibly a very big one, that the d EAvil will shut them down)
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Post by vhiran on Jan 10, 2018 22:44:08 GMT
Everywhere I go I see people say 'i won't buy the game because Bioware / EA sucks, i hope it does well but i won't support it even if it's good.'
I'm going to predict it will be the Blade Runner 2049 of gaming. Outside of their small core fanbase Bioware is despised and I don't think they're aware of it.
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Post by Heimdall on Jan 11, 2018 0:16:39 GMT
Everywhere I go I see people say 'i won't buy the game because Bioware / EA sucks, i hope it does well but i won't support it even if it's good.' I'm going to predict it will be the Blade Runner 2049 of gaming. Outside of their small core fanbase Bioware is despised and I don't think they're aware of it. I don’t see it. Yeah, it’s popular to hate on EA and I’ve seen a few posts like that, but outside of comment sections for clickbait doomsaying videos catering to that crowd I don’t really see that sentiment much.
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Post by bshep on Jan 11, 2018 1:27:24 GMT
Everywhere I go I see people say 'i won't buy the game because Bioware / EA sucks, i hope it does well but i won't support it even if it's good.' I'm going to predict it will be the Blade Runner 2049 of gaming. Outside of their small core fanbase Bioware is despised and I don't think they're aware of it. I don’t see it. Yeah, it’s popular to hate on EA and I’ve seen a few posts like that, but outside of comment sections for clickbait doomsaying videos catering to that crowd I don’t really see that sentiment much. I say it's the other way around. Most gamers don't care about going on the net making clickbait youtube videos and gaming articles spreading hate or even going to see then. Most only care about playing and enjoying the games they bought. And if they don't they will simply re-sale/return the game or let it lie in their library and buy something else.
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Post by Heimdall on Jan 11, 2018 1:34:31 GMT
I don’t see it. Yeah, it’s popular to hate on EA and I’ve seen a few posts like that, but outside of comment sections for clickbait doomsaying videos catering to that crowd I don’t really see that sentiment much. I say it's the other way around. Most gamers don't care about going on the net making clickbait youtube videos and gaming articles spreading hate or even going to see then. Most only care about playing and enjoying the games they bought. And if they don't they will simply re-sale/return the game or let it lie in their library and buy something else. That’s basically what I’m saying. Most gamers won’t care that EA is publishing Anthem either. They’ll make up their minds on Anthem based on Anthem, not Battlefront II.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 11, 2018 2:03:45 GMT
I don’t see it. Yeah, it’s popular to hate on EA and I’ve seen a few posts like that, but outside of comment sections for clickbait doomsaying videos catering to that crowd I don’t really see that sentiment much. I say it's the other way around. Most gamers don't care about going on the net making clickbait youtube videos and gaming articles spreading hate or even going to see then. Most only care about playing and enjoying the games they bought. And if they don't they will simply re-sale/return the game or let it lie in their library and buy something else. I agree with both of you, there are always going to be very loud people that say they talk for everyone. Looking back people were claiming that Mass Effect 3 would cause EA to close BioWare and it turns out it was their best selling game according to analysts. People claimed that Battlefront 2 would be a failure, but during December sales were higher then the estimates after the internet took a temper tantrum and EA's stock raised by 4%. Right now there is the clickbait going around, but in reality only a small portion of the player base will even see this clickbait garbage and its why developers don't really listen closely to what the internet says, because it doesn't represent enough people. According to AskAGameDev developers have calculated that only 5% of players will contribute to forums like this and an additional 15% will read these articles. So even if all of these people feel the same way which we can see here its fairly divided it is a max of 20% of players that will ever see the clickbait. Anthem can stand well on its own just like the DC movies if they make a good game people will move to see it, but if it is a bad game people will avoid it.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jan 12, 2018 19:41:53 GMT
Everywhere I go I see people say 'i won't buy the game because Bioware / EA sucks, i hope it does well but i won't support it even if it's good.' I'm going to predict it will be the Blade Runner 2049 of gaming. Outside of their small core fanbase Bioware is despised and I don't think they're aware of it. That's my gaming group. There are about 16 people who game on table tops (I might do a video on that, but that's 16 agreements I have to make them sign. So much legal stuff I wasn't aware of when I started this...) who all own BioWare-related products outside of games. Lots of N7 shirts/sweats and a dude that has a silver grey warden ring. (I'm going to get one myself. It's dope.) They all hate EA and BioWare lost all of its love at DA2, ME3, Inquisition (yes, Game of the Year, blah, blah) and Andromeda. Only one other gamer and myself still loved BioWare up until they killed Andromeda. Now, I still like BioWare, but EA has muddled the name so much with a revolving door of talent that BioWare isn't the storyteller master anymore. They can still make an awesome game of Anthem, but if it's loot-box happy, I'm not going to play it. I hate random loot (it only works in WoW.) and I'd rather build and modify my armor and weapons than just hope for an OP weapon. There is so much wrong with EA and the AAA industry that I'm willing to bet that backlash is only going to be worse in 2018. BioWare is on the chopping block because if EA can't make a buck, then it's the studio's fault. It's only speculation and I've been wrong before.
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Post by rras1994 on Jan 12, 2018 20:08:54 GMT
Everywhere I go I see people say 'i won't buy the game because Bioware / EA sucks, i hope it does well but i won't support it even if it's good.' I'm going to predict it will be the Blade Runner 2049 of gaming. Outside of their small core fanbase Bioware is despised and I don't think they're aware of it. People said that about Battlefront II and it got the top selling digital game for Playstation in Europe for December, no. 3 for digital for Playstation for December in the US and was the no.5 for the whole year in games sold for Physical in the UK. It sold well despite the news telling people it encouraged gambling in children and despite gamers constantly calling for a boycott. Most people who buy games don't really care who the publisher is, I doubt most care who the developer is. It's only the hardcore gamers who care about these things and in all honesty, considering what most gamer forums consider "popular" games, you'd think that the top selling games were garbage that noone would buy. The gamer community rarely alligns with what the general buying public thinks about games.
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Post by Tuchanka Love on Jan 12, 2018 20:47:35 GMT
Well, one thing we know for sure is that it's going to be better than ME:A, since they gave the production to their A team.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 13, 2018 6:19:37 GMT
Everywhere I go I see people say 'i won't buy the game because Bioware / EA sucks, i hope it does well but i won't support it even if it's good.' I'm going to predict it will be the Blade Runner 2049 of gaming. Outside of their small core fanbase Bioware is despised and I don't think they're aware of it. People said that about Battlefront II and it got the top selling digital game for Playstation in Europe for December, no. 3 for digital for Playstation for December in the US and was the no.5 for the whole year in games sold for Physical in the UK. It sold well despite the news telling people it encouraged gambling in children and despite gamers constantly calling for a boycott. Most people who buy games don't really care who the publisher is, I doubt most care who the developer is. It's only the hardcore gamers who care about these things and in all honesty, considering what most gamer forums consider "popular" games, you'd think that the top selling games were garbage that noone would buy. The gamer community rarely alligns with what the general buying public thinks about games. Even though EA is still being paid and it is a choice consumers are making. They bundled Battlefront 2 into PS4 consoles so you are going to see a lot of people using that as the only reason why it sold as well as it did. Its just like all the internet buzz when EA's stock took a hit because of the lowered sales expectations for Battlefront 2, when the numbers started to release about game sales in December EA's stock went up by 4%, but somehow all the places that used the drop to cement their stance on lootboxes failed to report on that.
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Post by rras1994 on Jan 13, 2018 10:59:05 GMT
People said that about Battlefront II and it got the top selling digital game for Playstation in Europe for December, no. 3 for digital for Playstation for December in the US and was the no.5 for the whole year in games sold for Physical in the UK. It sold well despite the news telling people it encouraged gambling in children and despite gamers constantly calling for a boycott. Most people who buy games don't really care who the publisher is, I doubt most care who the developer is. It's only the hardcore gamers who care about these things and in all honesty, considering what most gamer forums consider "popular" games, you'd think that the top selling games were garbage that noone would buy. The gamer community rarely alligns with what the general buying public thinks about games. Even though EA is still being paid and it is a choice consumers are making. They bundled Battlefront 2 into PS4 consoles so you are going to see a lot of people using that as the only reason why it sold as well as it did. Its just like all the internet buzz when EA's stock took a hit because of the lowered sales expectations for Battlefront 2, when the numbers started to release about game sales in December EA's stock went up by 4%, but somehow all the places that used the drop to cement their stance on lootboxes failed to report on that. The bundles would be physical disks so wouldn't be included in the digital playstation data and the UK physical sales chart doesn't include bundles in its data- so people can say it but those numbers don't include the bundles at all. I agree there's a lot of people wanting to ignore how well BF 2 actually is selling, and a lot of people seem to misunderstand EA's stock fall which was not due to the lootbox controversy but because they removed the lootboxes. I still think EA will be careful how they implement lootboxes in now as they'll want to be careful with a new IP. But the top 5 selling games in the UK had lootboxes and I'd say it's similar around the world - Gamer's have likely already lost the fight over lootboxes.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 13, 2018 12:48:39 GMT
Even though EA is still being paid and it is a choice consumers are making. They bundled Battlefront 2 into PS4 consoles so you are going to see a lot of people using that as the only reason why it sold as well as it did. Its just like all the internet buzz when EA's stock took a hit because of the lowered sales expectations for Battlefront 2, when the numbers started to release about game sales in December EA's stock went up by 4%, but somehow all the places that used the drop to cement their stance on lootboxes failed to report on that. The bundles would be physical disks so wouldn't be included in the digital playstation data and the UK physical sales chart doesn't include bundles in its data- so people can say it but those numbers don't include the bundles at all. I agree there's a lot of people wanting to ignore how well BF 2 actually is selling, and a lot of people seem to misunderstand EA's stock fall which was not due to the lootbox controversy but because they removed the lootboxes. I still think EA will be careful how they implement lootboxes in now as they'll want to be careful with a new IP. But the top 5 selling games in the UK had lootboxes and I'd say it's similar around the world - Gamer's have likely already lost the fight over lootboxes. Ah, its different here for most of the time the free games are digital versions of the game and are pre-loaded on the console iteself so I incorrectly thought it was the same everywhere. I think EA will be more careful for a couple of years until they become comfortable again and make the same mistake and to me its the same with what is currently happening with Steam. Valve got in trouble with CS:GO and gambling, but now people have moved onto exploiting Steam's systems again and have started gambling with PUBG. While Valve left the APIs so people can take advantage of their system to cash out or remove items from their ecosystem. I am not sure if gamers have really lost the battle for we are just fighting with ourselves for the primary reason why lootboxes are successful is because people were buying them. I know people said they like full price expansions and how DLC ruined it, but if people were buying expansions to the point they made financial sense for a publisher they would still have made them. Looking back on it we are partially responsible for how much of the market has become acceptable to lootboxes for the gaming community took "its okay, its only cosmetic" and "its okay, the game is free to play". The people that oppose lootboxes still say those things so there really will never be change until we unify and looking at Battlefront 2 sales we still haven't.
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Post by rras1994 on Jan 13, 2018 13:08:57 GMT
The bundles would be physical disks so wouldn't be included in the digital playstation data and the UK physical sales chart doesn't include bundles in its data- so people can say it but those numbers don't include the bundles at all. I agree there's a lot of people wanting to ignore how well BF 2 actually is selling, and a lot of people seem to misunderstand EA's stock fall which was not due to the lootbox controversy but because they removed the lootboxes. I still think EA will be careful how they implement lootboxes in now as they'll want to be careful with a new IP. But the top 5 selling games in the UK had lootboxes and I'd say it's similar around the world - Gamer's have likely already lost the fight over lootboxes. Ah, its different here for most of the time the free games are digital versions of the game and are pre-loaded on the console iteself so I incorrectly thought it was the same everywhere. I think EA will be more careful for a couple of years until they become comfortable again and make the same mistake and to me its the same with what is currently happening with Steam. Valve got in trouble with CS:GO and gambling, but now people have moved onto exploiting Steam's systems again and have started gambling with PUBG. While Valve left the APIs so people can take advantage of their system to cash out or remove items from their ecosystem. I am not sure if gamers have really lost the battle for we are just fighting with ourselves for the primary reason why lootboxes are successful is because people were buying them. I know people said they like full price expansions and how DLC ruined it, but if people were buying expansions to the point they made financial sense for a publisher they would still have made them. Looking back on it we are partially responsible for how much of the market has become acceptable to lootboxes for the gaming community took "its okay, its only cosmetic" and "its okay, the game is free to play". The people that oppose lootboxes still say those things so there really will never be change until we unify and looking at Battlefront 2 sales we still haven't. I looked again just to make sure: linkAnd it says includes blue ray disk of Battlefront II so not digital. And those bundles did seem to be selling heavily as well. The thing is I think this is a transition period were publishers are trying to find new ways of monetisation due to the increasing dev costs. Some systems get it right and some don't. I think Valve are getting it to murky territory cus what they are doing is floating on the edge of a lot of countries gambling law, specially with the grey sites associated with their products were you can actually gamble with in-game items and money to earn money. They don't really seem to be coming down on them enough. I'll admit though I don't play those games so I have an understanding of those systems second hand and could be misinterpretating them.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 13, 2018 14:17:06 GMT
And those bundles did seem to be selling heavily as well. I think those bundles were selling well because they were cheap (particularly on Black Friday). I added a PS4 to my Xbox at that time because the BFII bundle was 25% off the cheapest I can pick up a base console now.
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Post by rras1994 on Jan 13, 2018 14:23:47 GMT
And those bundles did seem to be selling heavily as well. I think those bundles were selling well because they were cheap (particularly on Black Friday). I added a PS4 to my Xbox at that time because the BFII bundle was 25% off the cheapest I can pick up a base console now. As I mentioned in the above post, the figures that show Battlefront II selling well don't include the bundles. So the bundle sales doing well mean more sales in addition to the regular sales seemingly doing well. Though yeah it was a good deal, though I think COD WW2 also had a bundle going for the same price but the Battlefront II was more popular. Of course Star Wars had a film out in the biggest shopping month so that definetly helps Though PS4 did have a deal for $199 during Black Friday for just the console, so I'm admittedly assuming that most people who just wanted the PS4 and don't want Battlefront II bought it during that time.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Jan 13, 2018 14:56:49 GMT
Anthem is EA's beast. The mechanics, the way the game is built is BioWare but its systems and direction will largely be superceded by EA's capitalist mandates and this time it will DOMINATE the product.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jan 31, 2018 9:30:15 GMT
To all the developers with talent, artists, writers, designers, audio and any other talent that isn't involved with management: NO ONE IS STICKING UP FOR YOU. POLISH YOUR RESUMES because things aren't what they are and you KNOW it. There has to be resources in Edmonton to help transition you into another job or you better start collecting favors. If you're stuck, then POLISH YOUR RESUME for inspiration. It's coming.
The only people that will benefit from 2018 are the same A$$**** who made all those decisions going back to 2012. It's coming to an end even if Anthem sells.
It's speculation, but use some common sense and take care of yourselves.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Jan 31, 2018 15:25:04 GMT
OMG. It's already started on YouTube. I thought for sure it would be a while, but no... they're all doubling down that EA is:
1. Shutting down BioWare no matter what. 2. Microsoft will buy out EA and BioWare will be revived, but goodbye Andromeda team. Get some professional advice on polishing your resume because EA will never accept the blame.
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