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Post by uirebhiril on Feb 23, 2017 15:28:11 GMT
I don't hate Solas at all. I romanced him and want to see where that story goes. He is an incredibly complex and well-written character that I can appreciate for his role in the narrative so far. But given a chance, I'll still kick him, just once, for all the things. He'd probably understand. Of course, most of the people here like Solas just the same, and those that don't have mostly been respectful. That's as much a valid opinion as loving him. And you have to admit his snarky reply to an unliked Inquisitor in Trespasser is pure gold. Solas can hate with the best of them, and I still watch the clip from time to time when I need a giggle.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 23, 2017 19:15:08 GMT
Personally I swing backwards and forwards over Solas and am equally happy both to defend him against detractors and yet condemn him when people seem too willing to forgive him for his actions. I suppose that's what makes him such a great character, that he can engender such extreme reactions in people towards him.
I don't know about hatred but my male Lavellan is really angry with him and his plans for the world, plus the knowledge that all the time they were together and Solas was saying how much he respected him, he was really planning on recovering his orb and carrying on where he had left off. Had the Inquisitor not destroyed the orb in sealing the second breach, the world would apparently already be burning.
I think the reason people seem more willing to forgive Morrigan was that she never claimed to be anything other than a survivalist and in DAO she constantly disapproved of helping people who were too weak to help themselves. She was always looking after number one and so it comes as little surprise that she has been concealing things from you. You cannot accuse her of hypocrisy or disloyalty.
What comes as such a shock with Solas is that he seemed a genuinely caring person; he gives approval when you do small acts of kindness for people as well as the bigger things. When Cassandra asked him what he believed in he said "the inherent right of all free willed people to exist". One reason I so loved Solas on my first run was that he was saying things to other companions that I wanted to say but wasn't allowed to. Every time he pointed out something to a companion that I agreed with (which was pretty much everything), I was silently cheering him on.
That is why my character (and myself if I am honest) feel that it is a betrayal, not just of my PC personally but of everything that Solas claimed to believe in. What was the point of lecturing people and encouraging them to do differently if he was planning on ending it all anyway? That is why I think some people show such hatred towards him. It is the hypocrisy of all his noble speeches that earns their ire. Solas would actually understand this. He says that whilst an enemy can attack you, only a friend can betray you and betrayal is always worse. Which is why he is so pragmatic towards his former friend if they say they are going to stop him because he would probably feel the same in their shoes.
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Post by Julilla on Feb 23, 2017 19:36:07 GMT
The thing I personally feel betrayed about is that he had spies up in my Inquisition from Day 1. To the point where I had to disband because I was too compromised. I don't know why that bothers me so very much, but it really does.
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Welcome @ghostpants ! --- Art Post. Gorgeous art of concept!Solas. is it hot in here or is it just me?
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Post by javeart on Feb 24, 2017 8:10:53 GMT
I don't hate him at all, I can understand the secrecy and why he needed to leave (leaving without saying a word wasn't cool though, that's the thing that bothers me the most ). But listening to him talking about his plan, was definitely heartbreaking, when Lavellan says that never thought of him as someone who would do that, that summed up well my feelings... it's not anger, it's more disappointment... But I don't think he was pretending the whole time, I think he really is the kind, caring person he seemed to be, so even if he's not really trying to end the blight or something like that, once we know the whole story, I'm expecting that it all will be more understandable. And there's also the redeem option I'd say that in fact I'm more worried about him than anything else. I don't know why he's doing this, but I think he's actualy a good guy and probably he's not even doing it for himself, so it's really sad thinking about what this could mean for him too
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 24, 2017 9:23:49 GMT
The people who hate Solas for the most part of those people who never really liked him in the first place. Hence the videos of people punching him and the far less regretful Dread Wolf that they meet in Trespasser as a result.
It is also far easier to be sympathetic once you have had the chance to calm down and reflect on everything. This is why I say that my reaction the first time I encountered him (which was with a friend not a lover) was more than disappointment; it was outrage. There was also the feeling of betrayal, coupled with the fact that there had been times when conversations had seemed a little "off" and I had sensed that he was being evasive with me, which had not been the case to the same extent with my romanced Lavellan because of having to take the heart option instead of something else. So my friend Lavellan was aware of all those times when they questioned him on something or pointed out he was changing the subject and got a "Solas disapproves" as a result, which would equate to him frowning, being a bit curt or simply seeming evasive. Which would only feed into the idea that his claim to respect Lavellan had never been genuine. So at the time there was anger but as the months have passed and he has had time to reflect on things, the sympathy and concern have returned. He feels that there has to be more to it than simply recovering the world of the elves at the expense of everyone else.
This is why I am a bit concerned at being asked to make a decision about whether you want to kill or redeem him at the end of Trespasser and whether you will be held to that in the future as Lavellan or a new PC will have greater difficulty in convincing Solas if the former PC did not choose redeem. What someone says in the heat of the moment may not be how they truly feel at a later stage. The fact that my Lavellan is determined to stop him from destroying the world, even if that means killing him, does not mean that he would not choose to redeem him if he could. However, the priority for him is the fate of millions of people, including the elves, not Solas. Being forced into choosing at that point, when Solas has admitted that there is more to it than he has revealed, was pre-judging your reaction when more became known. Also the prompt was somewhat misleading when the actual dialogue was revealed. "I'm going to prove you wrong" is not the same as redeeming someone. In religious terms of saving someone's soul, redeeming them means paying the debt of their sins for them; it is saving them through taking the debt on yourself. In this case, it would be taking whatever obligation that Solas feels he is under and fulfilling it instead of him, walking the path of death instead of him, which is what he specifically says he wants you to avoid. Alternatively, if he is under some sort of geas to someone else, like Mythal for example, then you would redeem him by persuading them to release him from the obligation. Proving him wrong is not the same thing at all unless you are getting him to admit that his plan is morally wrong, which in a way you already have but he is still going ahead with it anyway. Otherwise you are just showing him that his plan won't achieve his aims and so he doesn't go through with it as a result. That's restoring his wisdom, not redeeming his soul.
So as far as my male Lavellan is concerned I still cannot make up my mind how I want to leave things. I'm hoping the writers will make the decisions more nuanced in the way they pan out. After all it is recorded in the Keep whether you were a friend of Solas as well as whether you chose to kill or redeem. So I imagine there has to be more ways of resolving this than redeem = like Solas, stop at all costs = hate him.
I'm also mindful of the fact that PW said that Solas was originally going to be much more like the trickster that the Dalish depict (hence how he is shown in Masked Empire), but then decided to change this and make him less shifty and they included Solas as a romance to make him a more sympathetic character to those people, so it would seem they expected people to have a negative reaction to him when all was revealed and wanted us poor Solas romancers to defend him.
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All the ME:A stuff must have made this thread go quiet. You could almost say its.... DREAD Quiet? linkSide Note: FUUUUUUUU!!!! Shit just got real! 4 days..... *cue heavy breathing*
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Not sure if this has been mentioned in this thread yet, but any good fanfic recommendations for our lovely Wolf?
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Not sure if this has been mentioned in this thread yet, but any good fanfic recommendations for our lovely Wolf? Pref AU I'm currently in the middle of some work but off the top of my head, Feynite on AO3 creates some very beautiful stories. She has enough works that there would certainly be one or two that would strike your fancy . As for some other AU authors, I haven't delved deeply enough into that pool to know (I try not to read other people's work when I write to avoid undue influences ). But I believe many of the writers in here actual have stories posted in the BSN Blanketfort Collection on AO3 so there is another lengthy list to shift through
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I'm sorry that pun was positively....dreadful Here have a hilarious hero smell generator that popped over in the Jaal thread!: Your Hero Smells LikeSolas: Wax and Chance
Dread Wolf: Cotton and Safety
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Post by unicornfarts on Feb 25, 2017 18:35:04 GMT
I'm sorry that pun was positively....dreadful Here have a hilarious hero smell generator that popped over in the Jaal thread!: Your Hero Smells LikeSolas: Wax and Chance
Dread Wolf: Cotton and Safety
Lavellan: Wolves and Prowess. Seriously.
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Lavellan: Wolves and Prowess. Seriously. Please...PLEASE, say your going to make your profile picture rainbows....
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Post by Wynne on Feb 26, 2017 6:34:59 GMT
And about the romance, well Patrick Weekes is head writer now, and has expressed a desire to give closure on Solas's romance. Nothing's concrete, but its a good sign. If I don't get closure I will kick Patrick Weekes in the shins Welcome ghostpants. * goes back into lurk mode* O_O Theneras's avatar for love interest, omg. cowoline--I don't really hate him. I want to get in his face and have a long yelling conversation that ends in angry sex, though.
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Post by Wynne on Feb 26, 2017 6:54:10 GMT
Personally I swing backwards and forwards over Solas and am equally happy both to defend him against detractors and yet condemn him when people seem too willing to forgive him for his actions. I suppose that's what makes him such a great character, that he can engender such extreme reactions in people towards him. I don't know about hatred but my male Lavellan is really angry with him and his plans for the world, plus the knowledge that all the time they were together and Solas was saying how much he respected him, he was really planning on recovering his orb and carrying on where he had left off. Had the Inquisitor not destroyed the orb in sealing the second breach, the world would apparently already be burning. I think the reason people seem more willing to forgive Morrigan was that she never claimed to be anything other than a survivalist and in DAO she constantly disapproved of helping people who were too weak to help themselves. She was always looking after number one and so it comes as little surprise that she has been concealing things from you. You cannot accuse her of hypocrisy or disloyalty. What comes as such a shock with Solas is that he seemed a genuinely caring person; he gives approval when you do small acts of kindness for people as well as the bigger things. When Cassandra asked him what he believed in he said "the inherent right of all free willed people to exist". One reason I so loved Solas on my first run was that he was saying things to other companions that I wanted to say but wasn't allowed to. Every time he pointed out something to a companion that I agreed with (which was pretty much everything), I was silently cheering him on. That is why my character (and myself if I am honest) feel that it is a betrayal, not just of my PC personally but of everything that Solas claimed to believe in. What was the point of lecturing people and encouraging them to do differently if he was planning on ending it all anyway? That is why I think some people show such hatred towards him. It is the hypocrisy of all his noble speeches that earns their ire. Solas would actually understand this. He says that whilst an enemy can attack you, only a friend can betray you and betrayal is always worse. Which is why he is so pragmatic towards his former friend if they say they are going to stop him because he would probably feel the same in their shoes. I fully agree on all of this. The only things that give me pause are these haunting thoughts: - What if, before the Orb was destroyed, he had more compassionate holistic plans which involved its power?
- What if the Orb's destruction is the reason he leaves, desolate, and makes crueler plans, rather than having intended betrayal all along?
- And even if the two previous assumptions are wrong, it may be that he wishes there to be as little suffering on this world while it still exists as possible.
- Alternately, perhaps he simply admires the intention. The attempt to do good.
- Maybe in the end, he feels this world is already doomed and a reboot is the only chance it has to avoid a total apocalypse.
- As you mentioned, there might be some sort of geas on him as well.
- I'm unsure whether Asha'Bellanar/Flemeth is actually dead. Are those petrified petrified forever? I don't know. He might have had to trap the soul she took from Kieran before it could cause mischief. Maybe she even knew that herself. If he was a willing host for Mythal, but not the other, then perhaps only one soul would be transferred.
- He may be plotting his OWN destruction as well. Maybe he has to die to accomplish his plans. That would be a lot less hypocritical, if he is willing to pay that high a price.
And I don't feel betrayed about the spies, personally. In the beginning, he doesn't know you. You could be an epic dick (and sometimes the Inquisitor truly is.) Power could be wrested away from you somehow. You could die and the Inquisition be threatened. Then he would need those spies to have any chance. I don't know. I oddly have a lot of faith in Solas. I found something very sympathetic in him and in Cole. I feel like I can *feel* the good intentions in them both. Solas is probably the character I identify with the most in all of Dragon Age; even more than Wynne, Dagna, and Cole. And yet, he's also the one I want to grab by the arms and yell at in frustration the most. Ugh, what does that say about me? He's just... fantastic. Both wise and unwise, both a traitor and intensely loyal, both ethical and cruel. I feel so angry at him sometimes, and yet I could defend him to the death. I am skeptical, and wary, and yet I somehow I trust that this is not what he wants and that if I can present a better alternative, he'll take it the moment he's truly convinced.
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I fully agree on all of this. The only things that give me pause are these haunting thoughts:
- What if, before the Orb was destroyed, he had more compassionate holistic plans which involved its power?
- What if the Orb's destruction is the reason he leaves, desolate, and makes crueler plans, rather than having intended betrayal all along?
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I have wondered if there was more behind that sad and despondent expression Solas initially makes when he gathers the Orb fragment. To me it always gave me that skeptic impression as though something was lost when the Orb was destroyed, and not necessarily just his power that he had stored within it. More like something more if that makes sense? Its entirely possible that perhaps Inquisitor in their ignorance actually unleashed or wasted that special thing when they closed the Breach a second time and this is why the Orb breaks and Solas' words of 'it cannot replace what was lost' are said. Every time I have gone through DAI and then when Trespasser was finally released it only made the assumption grow, but I believe that before the Orb's destruction that the initially plan for the Veil's removal was much less traumatic and/or would have been a more organic merging of the two worlds. Perhaps it would have dissolved the Veil in such a way that even if the waking world was going tits up from sudden Fade introduction, the people would have been largely blind to it because Solas' Orb/Power made it that way (a simple kindness and all that ) or maybe everything would be over and done before the people of Thedas even knew that something was happening. Either way, his dialogue and tone in Trespasser when he reveals he was going to removal the Veil with the Orb was fishy.
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Post by midnight tea on Feb 27, 2017 5:49:16 GMT
The thing I personally feel betrayed about is that he had spies up in my Inquisition from Day 1. To the point where I had to disband because I was too compromised. I don't know why that bothers me so very much, but it really does. ... Do we really know if Solas had spies within Inquisition since day 1?
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I fully agree on all of this. The only things that give me pause are these haunting thoughts:
- What if, before the Orb was destroyed, he had more compassionate holistic plans which involved its power?
- What if the Orb's destruction is the reason he leaves, desolate, and makes crueler plans, rather than having intended betrayal all along?
- SNIPPED FOR SPACE
I have wondered if there was more behind that sad and despondent expression Solas initially makes when he gathers the Orb fragment. To me it always gave me that skeptic impression as though something was lost when the Orb was destroyed, and not necessarily just his power that he had stored within it. More like something more if that makes sense? Its entirely possible that perhaps Inquisitor in their ignorance actually unleashed or wasted that special thing when they closed the Breach a second time and this is why the Orb breaks and Solas' words of 'it cannot replace what was lost' are said. Every time I have gone through DAI and then when Trespasser was finally released it only made the assumption grow, but I believe that before the Orb's destruction that the initially plan for the Veil's removal was much less traumatic and/or would have been a more organic merging of the two worlds. Perhaps it would have dissolved the Veil in such a way that even if the waking world was going tits up from sudden Fade introduction, the people would have been largely blind to it because Solas' Orb/Power made it that way (a simple kindness and all that ) or maybe everything would be over and done before the people of Thedas even knew that something was happening. Either way, his dialogue and tone in Trespasser when he reveals he was going to removal the Veil with the Orb was fishy. Following that line of reasoning, Solas' sad despondent expression may have been not at the Inquisitor but at himself. If he had been able to trust the Inquisitor, he could have explained why the Orb was so important, and prevented its destruction by an Inquisitor left ignorant by Solas' inability to trust. Solas does seem to assume responsibility for the loss of the Orb with one of the post-final-battle dialogues with him (the italics are how it is presented in the original game, too): Inquisitor: Solas? Solas: The orb.
Option 1: Inquisitor: I know you wanted the orb saved. I’m so sorry. Solas: It is not your fault.
Option 2: Inquisitor: Are you sure? We could take the pieces, try to… Solas: That would not recover what has been lost.
Option 3: Inquisitor: Corypheus is dead. That’s the important thing. Solas: Yet so much has been lost.
Inquisitor: There’s more, isn’t there? Solas: It was not supposed to happen this way.
Given the in-game knowledge we have, it seems to me unlikely that Solas blames the Inquisitor for destroying the Orb and is therefore making more cruel plans than necessary for the restoration of the elves. From what he says in Trespasser, his original plan was not less violent. When he tells you about tearing down the Veil and restoring the world of the elves as the modern world burned in the raw chaos, he is answering your question about what was meant to happen, not what he is planning now: “What was meant to happen?”
Inquisitor: What would have happened if Corypheus had died and you’d recovered the orb?
Solas: I would have entered the Fade, using the mark you now bear. Then I would have torn down the Veil. As this world burned in the raw chaos, I would have restored the world of my time… the world of the elves.
He doesn't ever actually tell us what he plans to do now, although he does indicate that he will use extreme measures to accomplish his goal if necessary: “What happens next?”
Inquisitor: That’s the past. What about the future?
Solas: I lay in dark and dreaming sleep while countless wars and ages passed. I woke still weak a year before I joined you. My people fell for what I did to strike the Evanuris down, but still some hope remains for restoration. I will save the elven people, even if it means this world must die.
He goes on to indicate with a befriended or romanced Inquisitor that he is regretful about what he feels he must do. That doesn't suggest to me that he is making harsher plans since the Inquisitor destroyed the Orb. Option 1: Inquisitor: Why does this world have to die for the elves to return? Solas: A good question, but not one I will answer. You have always shown a thoughtfulness I respected. It would be too easy to tell you too much. I am not Corypheus. I take no joy in this. But the return of my people means the end of yours.
Option 2: Inquisitor: You’re going to destroy this world? Solas: Not happily. Inquisitor: I’ll have to stop you. Solas: I know you will try.
Option 3: Inquisitor: Solas, whatever you want, this world dying is not the answer. Solas: Not a good answer, no. Sometimes terrible choices are all that remain.
Option 4 (Romance option): Inquisitor: Let me help you, Solas. Solas: I cannot do that to you, vhenan. Inquisitor: But you would do it to yourself? I cannot bear to think of you alone. Solas: I walk the din’anshiral. There is only death on this journey. I would not have you see what I become.
TL;DR: I don't think Solas blames anyone but himself for the Orb's destruction, and I don't think its loss provoked him into making harsher plans than he already had. If anything I think we might see him trying to find a less harsh means to his end if he can. Let him steep in his own self-hatred and blame; no need for a befriended or romanced Inquisitor to take on that burden for him. He even says as much.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 17:59:42 GMT
I have wondered if there was more behind that sad and despondent expression Solas initially makes when he gathers the Orb fragment. To me it always gave me that skeptic impression as though something was lost when the Orb was destroyed, and not necessarily just his power that he had stored within it. More like something more if that makes sense? Its entirely possible that perhaps Inquisitor in their ignorance actually unleashed or wasted that special thing when they closed the Breach a second time and this is why the Orb breaks and Solas' words of 'it cannot replace what was lost' are said. Every time I have gone through DAI and then when Trespasser was finally released it only made the assumption grow, but I believe that before the Orb's destruction that the initially plan for the Veil's removal was much less traumatic and/or would have been a more organic merging of the two worlds. Perhaps it would have dissolved the Veil in such a way that even if the waking world was going tits up from sudden Fade introduction, the people would have been largely blind to it because Solas' Orb/Power made it that way (a simple kindness and all that ) or maybe everything would be over and done before the people of Thedas even knew that something was happening. Either way, his dialogue and tone in Trespasser when he reveals he was going to removal the Veil with the Orb was fishy. Following that line of reasoning, Solas' sad despondent expression may have been not at the Inquisitor but at himself. If he had been able to trust the Inquisitor, he could have explained why the Orb was so important, and prevented its destruction by an Inquisitor left ignorant by Solas' inability to trust. Solas does seem to assume responsibility for the loss of the Orb with one of the post-final-battle dialogues with him (the italics are how it is presented in the original game, too): Inquisitor: Solas? Solas: The orb.
Option 1: Inquisitor: I know you wanted the orb saved. I’m so sorry. Solas: It is not your fault.
Option 2: Inquisitor: Are you sure? We could take the pieces, try to… Solas: That would not recover what has been lost.
Option 3: Inquisitor: Corypheus is dead. That’s the important thing. Solas: Yet so much has been lost.
Inquisitor: There’s more, isn’t there? Solas: It was not supposed to happen this way.
Given the in-game knowledge we have, it seems to me unlikely that Solas blames the Inquisitor for destroying the Orb and is therefore making more cruel plans than necessary for the restoration of the elves. From what he says in Trespasser, his original plan was not less violent. When he tells you about tearing down the Veil and restoring the world of the elves as the modern world burned in the raw chaos, he is answering your question about what was meant to happen, not what he is planning now: “What was meant to happen?”
Inquisitor: What would have happened if Corypheus had died and you’d recovered the orb?
Solas: I would have entered the Fade, using the mark you now bear. Then I would have torn down the Veil. As this world burned in the raw chaos, I would have restored the world of my time… the world of the elves.
He doesn't ever actually tell us what he plans to do now, although he does indicate that he will use extreme measures to accomplish his goal if necessary: “What happens next?”
Inquisitor: That’s the past. What about the future?
Solas: I lay in dark and dreaming sleep while countless wars and ages passed. I woke still weak a year before I joined you. My people fell for what I did to strike the Evanuris down, but still some hope remains for restoration. I will save the elven people, even if it means this world must die.
He goes on to indicate with a befriended or romanced Inquisitor that he is regretful about what he feels he must do. That doesn't suggest to me that he is making harsher plans since the Inquisitor destroyed the Orb. Option 1: Inquisitor: Why does this world have to die for the elves to return? Solas: A good question, but not one I will answer. You have always shown a thoughtfulness I respected. It would be too easy to tell you too much. I am not Corypheus. I take no joy in this. But the return of my people means the end of yours.
Option 2: Inquisitor: You’re going to destroy this world? Solas: Not happily. Inquisitor: I’ll have to stop you. Solas: I know you will try.
Option 3: Inquisitor: Solas, whatever you want, this world dying is not the answer. Solas: Not a good answer, no. Sometimes terrible choices are all that remain.
Option 4 (Romance option): Inquisitor: Let me help you, Solas. Solas: I cannot do that to you, vhenan. Inquisitor: But you would do it to yourself? I cannot bear to think of you alone. Solas: I walk the din’anshiral. There is only death on this journey. I would not have you see what I become.
TL;DR: I don't think Solas blames anyone but himself for the Orb's destruction, and I don't think its loss provoked him into making harsher plans than he already had. If anything I think we might see him trying to find a less harsh means to his end if he can. Let him steep in his own self-hatred and blame; no need for a befriended or romanced Inquisitor to take on that burden for him. He even says as much. Ah poorly worded on my part lol. Yes I agree with much of this and I did not mean to imply that Solas blamed the Inquisitor (regardless of his feelings towards them) for the destruction of his Orb. Solas has always been one to lay blame on himself or where it is truly due. I forget sometimes that the 'burn in raw chaos' line is for what would have happened but I still think there was something that would have affected the people (ugh, its perfect in my head but not coming out nearly coherent lol) during the transition. And while he does have new plans now, I am not sold that they are not on the same level of destructiveness. I don't mean that as a hateful thing or anger at Solas, but as an observation of what would realistically happen when you suddenly drastically alter an unsuspecting individual's mind and their perception of reality (not to mention this will be on a global scale). That's raw chaos if I ever smelled it .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 18:15:54 GMT
The thing I personally feel betrayed about is that he had spies up in my Inquisition from Day 1. To the point where I had to disband because I was too compromised. I don't know why that bothers me so very much, but it really does. ... Do we really know if Solas had spies within Inquisition since day 1? Hmm...I only really picture two scenarios that would be in keeping with Solas' character (that is, if we are going under the assumption that the Dev's had that 'my spy's' dialogue for more than simple 'yeah, we just wanted to give an example of how the Inquisition isn't as air-tight as you think', type deal) If there spies when Inquisition is first founded: This would have been because Solas being Solas didn't trust. A way for him to see and determine what was being done throughout the organization. He's part of the Inner Circle yeah, but remember even then he isn't privy and a part of every single thing that is decided and orchestrated. So I don't blame him for being cautious enough and clever enough to keep tabs on an organization that is using a religious symbol (the Herald) to gather followers. Another thing to add; no way do I see him actually meeting with ANY of his contacts. If he had spies during his time in Inquisition, meetings and sharing of information would have taken place within the Fade and without them ever seeing his face (unless one happened to have known him before but Solas is too smart in my opinion to use anyone would could link him to Fen'Harel considering he wanted to be inconspicuous). If after Inquisition: Well, not much that can be put here, I mean, why wouldn't he? He's no longer a part of the Inner Circle or Inquisition. It would be stupid to leave an entity as immense as the Inquisition and not have a means of knowing what their plans are and their mission.
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