The Blanketfort (crying and throwing up) - The Official Solas Thread [Spoilers]

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Hey Renmiri glad you found a beacon!

If Solas was the guardian of Mythal... does that mean that all of the Evanuris had guardians? Perhaps Dirthamen wasn't a god, but the guardian of Falon'Din - it would explain why they seem to have been inseparable and also why Dirthamen was known for being the god of secrets (perhaps he was spying on Falon'Din's enemies?). Something that would contradict this, however, is the fact that we can visit a temple dedicated to Dirthamen (I can not recall whether the temple dates back to the time of the Evanuris or if perhaps it is of a later date).

Hey Garnet glad you made it. Welcome Mel, lol loving and hating Solas at the same time is my favorite hobby hi opuspace! elfy discussion of all kinds is welcome here

On RDF, it is a lovely forum with a welcoming community and friendly admin. There are plus points to RDF that BSNb lacks and vice versa, it's just the nature of multiple different communities and their different traits. I totally encourage you all to participate in RDF's community if you so desire, nothing precludes people from posting in both places. I did my best to express my sincere apologies and heartfelt gratitude on the Blanketfort's behalf to RDF & AW btw, both in public and in private. AW is a very sweet and genuine person. Certainly I hope to be somewhat active on RDF in the future in my capacity as an individual because I have enjoyed my time on RDF thus far.

On the original thread, I'd probably have it open for longer, maybe even til right up near the end, to continue to post links, encourage people, answer queries/concerns, etc. just be a case of reiterating the link/move. folk who are gonna move later rather than now will move with the official closure. in the meantime be assured you don't all have to keep checking and reading that thread (I mean you can if you want to, obviously!), I keep an eye on it you wont miss anything

Back to lore stuff,

On Eleni's prophecy since it was mentioned.

My thoughts on who betrayed and murdered Mythal: A combination of Elgar'nan* and Falon'Din** working in tandem, with Falon'Din's own involvement being possibly being supplemented by his brother/twin soul/lover/alter ego/split personality/guardian/whatever your opinion is Dirthamen particularly if the statue is Dirthamen***.

* His threatening nature and power seemed to me to be highlighted in Trespasser. Further, betrayal by the husband mirrors closely human!Flemeth's experience with Conobar, which is important and notable. The Mythalfragment crawled to Flemeth specifically for a reason, not coincidence. Some mortals blaze brighter in the Fade in terms of their attractiveness as hosts to demons e.g. mages. I'm not saying the fragment is a demon specifically but that there's some precedent for brighter beacons/more attractive host-targets for Fadey-type creatures as it were in the lore. Flemeth was crying out for a specific kind of vengeance for a specific kind of wrong and Mythal answered. It's like two magnets or a moth to a flame, that probably assisted their close fusion also. To add, some even speculate that Mythal may have had a lover other than Elgar'nan (sometimes they speculate that it was Solas). Further mirrors with the poet that won Flemeth's heart. And if she did, another motivation for Elgar'nan to kill her beyond and in addition to general "I'm a terrible asshole and she keeps trying to keep me in line" power-hungry reasons.

** Mythal in the past rallied the others against him and bloodied him in his own temple. He sounds bloodthirsty, I don't think he forgave her for that. To add, he had a lust for power and adulation, and Mythal will have gotten in the way of that in a more general sense as she tried to keep the Evanuris in line/from doing the worst of their nonsense. It's ironic given that at least once in the past Elgar'nan and Falon'Din had a problem with each other and Mythal intervened (the duel of champions) but recall that the Evanuris' dominion probably lasted hundreds of years or more. Their rule probably consisted of a never-ending Gameofthroney bloody and deceit-filled chessgame where things went back and forth, alliances formed and dissolved, disagreements happened, plotting against each other in one decade while allying in the next, only for it to change again, on and on until the Fall. They were dicks and immortal beings have time to kill, add that to their desire for power/dominion and you see what happens. Why then the issue with trust in 'her' friends if they were such dicks? 1) Elgar'nan is a husband, that's a close person 2) in a sick way like kind of despite all the infighting I feel like they were kind of .. not friends, but sometimes loved each other, or had respect for each other 3) suspect the orchestrators (Elgar'nan and co) recruiting/turning some of Mythal's real friends in their plan/against her, using them as tools to get close to her, whatever, 4) before the Evanuris BECAME the false god-king Evanurises, they maybe WERE actual friends - remember they were generals together in a great war against some unknown enemy, before they 'ascended' and became corrupt.

*** The two figures are so closely tied in the lore/according to what we know that I don't see Falon'Din doing such a thing without the assistance/knowledge of his 'brother'. Which finally ties to the possibly-Dirthamen statue in the Fade. He was one of the backstabbers. It's not perfect because the statue shows 'him' (if it is him) being stabbed not DOING the stabbing, but whenever does the Fade perfectly recreate the real world/history with its representations? Never.

So those three, possibly ALSO with the involvement of some of the others (Andruil for example you could see a reason for her dislike) in an overarching conspiratorial 'we're sick of Mythal keeping us in line/acting like she's in charge/stopping us from doing things we want to do/how dare she/she's in the way' feel.

I know that the proliferation of wolf statues is sometimes assigned to reuse of art assets, as you showed by the weekes quote. But surely the giant one in the foyer of Dirthamen's Temple means something. Also the wolf's statue in the waterfall at Watcher's Reach, specifically mentioned in a codex about how it must be magically maintained cus it hasn't eroded. And the watcher above Watcher's Reach seems deliberately put there (again, codex entry referencing it) and seems a lot like a Dirthamen statue (though I admit I thought maybe it was meant to be a Solas statue at one point in my playthrough).

There is a connection btwn Dirthamen and Fen'Harel that we have not had elaborated. Not sure *what*, but it's something.

That's a very good point.

Anything which is referenced by dialouge or codex entries is completely deliberate.  It's other things - the large number of wolf statues - that we can't read too much into.

I'd love to see a remake of DAO so it's actually using proper elven art assest rather than Tevinter stuff in the ruins.

fixed discord link in OP because I'm dumb and put a temp one there and forgot that I had done that and then it expired lolol

I just noticed what you put under your profile pic  *snicker*.

I noticed the sig, but I don't think I understand it. The bit below the profile pic is amusing, though.

Yaaay! I finally made it. Andaran Atish'an lethallins and lethallans! I know I'm late but I needed a little rest after my long journey to our new home!
Hopefully I'll stop lurking and be more active here.

I was listening to a character banter video and it occured to me. Vivienne is from Wycome. And she speaks highly of the place. Though she prolly left as a child, I wonder if she has established connections there and those can be used to Clan Lavellan's advantage if you are friends with her.

Don't really see it that way - it's not uncommon for conquered lands or places to be marked with statues/flags/whatever of the conqueror.

It could be the same with Evanuris temples and Fen'Harel statues. Basically every spot taken by rebels could have be adorned by Fen'Harel's statues, either as sign that the place has been conquered or it's under protection of Fen'Harel (we see in Trespasser that many of these statues are magical). You know... kinda like every spot where Inquisitor is marked by flags and signs that say "under protection of Inquisition".

Heck, it could even have been how the tradition to put Fen'Harel statues around Dalish camp has started...

Ooookay...It looked fine in the previews...I dunno..friggin' coding.

Edit: Ok I fixed it..hehehe