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Post by BamBam the Destroyer on Jan 19, 2018 12:16:06 GMT
EA's Loot box route is undeniable. They love the damn things to the point of idiocy.
So what would you not shed any tears about if it were behind loot boxes in Anthem?
Vote and comment!
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jan 19, 2018 13:33:01 GMT
Dump RNG and I couldn't care less about loot boxes. Give exactly what people pay for if you're using microTs, I'm not spending 70$ to get a god damn helmet skin when a game like warframe outright lets me buy it at 5$.
Cosmetics are tolerable to me, I can even tolerate crafting materials and some in game currency so long as it's viable to also get in game. Don't make them hard to get, and then try to aggravate the player to where they're encouraged to just buy them from a store.
🤔 Never did like romance in games anyways 🤷🏻♀️ so make people pay 50$ to smooch 👍
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 14:04:57 GMT
I clicked off all the cosmetic options. While I did not click off "companions", I think that companion visual customizations are a fair game as well, i.e. just changing their looks. Premium companions like Treek is okay too imo, as long as you just pay for it, not just RNG.
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Jan 19, 2018 21:05:44 GMT
Nothing at all. Lootboxes should be removed from the gaming industry.
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Post by Fogg on Jan 19, 2018 21:16:17 GMT
I really, really hate any kind of lootbox. They are designed to seduce you in spending a few bucks here, and then there and then some more. Even the cosmetic ones. It's crack dealing.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 19, 2018 21:59:35 GMT
Hah, RNG romance loot.
[cracks open crate]
[deep gasping] "Oh my god thank you for freeing me! We'll bang, OK"
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 19, 2018 22:01:12 GMT
I really, really hate any kind of lootbox. They are designed to seduce you in spending a few bucks here, and then there and then some more. Even the cosmetic ones. It's crack dealing. Nah it's just gambling. With crack dealing, at least you know it's crack, otherwise you're in for a bad time. "Oh shit this ain't crack it's flakka!"
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Post by BamBam the Destroyer on Jan 19, 2018 22:11:00 GMT
Hah, RNG romance loot. [cracks open crate] [deep gasping] "Oh my god thank you for freeing me! We'll bang, OK" A while back I speculated that romances would be unlocked via microtransaction.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 19, 2018 22:22:41 GMT
Hah, RNG romance loot. [cracks open crate] [deep gasping] "Oh my god thank you for freeing me! We'll bang, OK" A while back I speculated that romances would be unlocked via microtransaction. Gotta earn that Biggest John achievement so the publisher can keep their pimp hand strong.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jan 19, 2018 23:03:29 GMT
Absolutely 100% NOTHING. After all the bad the PR and possibly bringing politicians into a glorified gambling scheme, and finally seeing their stock tank are the morons running EA want to go out of business?
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jan 19, 2018 23:52:14 GMT
Dump RNG and I couldn't care less about loot boxes This. So much this.
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Post by coldsteelblue on Jan 20, 2018 0:48:31 GMT
I checked the bugger all box, if I pay full price for a game, is it ok for me to actually have a full game?
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 20, 2018 3:49:47 GMT
I really wouldn't want anything "hidden", its why I am willing to accept what BioWare has released with Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect: Andromeda or at least the spirit of its design. Its just an alternate way to get the same items, now I would greatly prefer a system where I had more choice in what I am paying for.
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Post by tacsear on Jan 20, 2018 13:13:18 GMT
if there is any kind of loot boxes EA might as well pull their own plug
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Post by Fredward on Jan 20, 2018 13:54:26 GMT
They're definitely not gonna drop the RNG element, it's what makes it so addicting in the first place. It's not like they haven't tried "Get what you pay for" microtransactions before, this is just more effective.
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Post by simit on Jan 20, 2018 14:44:15 GMT
Wasn't BioWare one of the first to put everything into lootboxes in me3 mp an noone blinked a eye an lapped it up? Is the only difference required earning enough credits to buy said lootboxes in game? Or the fact that there was a sp campaign an mp was optional plus coop, i mean me3 mp reportedly a surprise huge success so i wouldn't be at all surprised if Anthem wasn't in answer to that success tbh
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jan 20, 2018 15:21:12 GMT
Wasn't BioWare one of the first to put everything into lootboxes in me3 mp an noone blinked a eye an lapped it up? Is the only difference required earning enough credits to buy said lootboxes in game? Or the fact that there was a sp campaign an mp was optional plus coop, i mean me3 mp reportedly a surprise huge success so i wouldn't be at all surprised if Anthem wasn't in answer to that success tbh www.pcgamer.com/the-evolution-of-loot-boxes/Bioware was hardly the first. as for why it wasn't such a big deal in ME3: I'd sum it up to it still being a SP focused game, it's easy to ignore things on the multiplayer side if more than half the playerbase doesn't even touch it. Furthermore it was easy to get credits to buy the crates without spending money, it wasn't very predatory as what's out now. I honestly can't remember if they were even RNG based as I haven't played ME3 MP in years, I know for sure that I could get a crate or two after every platinum game. I think that might also be part of it, games today have extended how long you play before getting enough in game currency to buy. Halo 5 requires 5-10 arena games and about 3-4 warzone games to get a gold pack (they're really the only thing that has good gear). Gears of war 4 requires a dozen games to get elite packs (same case here, if you want the "good" stuff, you've got to play a lot to get it. Even if ME3 did have RNG based crates (cause again, I honestly can't remember) I don't recall it being as bad as what games are now.
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Post by cribbian on Jan 20, 2018 15:22:11 GMT
Nothing unless the base game is free.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 20, 2018 16:54:49 GMT
nothing
cut the crap with the loot boxes
if you REALLY NEED IT then maybe just freaking cosmetic things
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 20, 2018 17:52:41 GMT
if there is any kind of loot boxes EA might as well pull their own plug Understand the sentiment, but why would they roll-back from an economy that was implemented in Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age Inquisition and Mass Effect Andromeda? If they included a similar system would they not reasonably be able to argue that they are simply doing what they did before?
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Post by tacsear on Jan 20, 2018 18:03:06 GMT
if there is any kind of loot boxes EA might as well pull their own plug Understand the sentiment, but why would they roll-back from an economy that was implemented in Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age Inquisition and Mass Effect Andromeda? If they included a similar system would they not reasonably be able to argue that they are simply doing what they did before? Before SWBF2 disaster this would've been acceptable but people's tolerance to EAs greed is at an all time low, I just cannot see gamers being cool about any microtransaction in an EA game now.
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Post by Wulfram on Jan 20, 2018 18:03:51 GMT
if there is any kind of loot boxes EA might as well pull their own plug Understand the sentiment, but why would they roll-back from an economy that was implemented in Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age Inquisition and Mass Effect Andromeda? If they included a similar system would they not reasonably be able to argue that they are simply doing what they did before? In those games the multiplayer was something additional to the core of the game, which was single player. That's not true in Anthem, which changes things a bit. Also, sentiment on lootboxes has shifted recently.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 20, 2018 18:56:30 GMT
Before SWBF2 disaster this would've been acceptable but people's tolerance to EAs greed is at an all time low, I just cannot see gamers being cool about any microtransaction in an EA game now. For some that may be true, but I see no logic in something being acceptable before but not now. I understand that the predatory pay2win economy of BFII was unreasonable, but to then reject the mechanism out of hand in all circumstances on the basis of specific flawed instances is as illogical as boycotting all of EA because some of the games have stuffed up. It's akin to not liking broccoli and therefore rejecting all vegetables, that might make sense to a 6-year old, but I think most people can exercise a little more nuance than that. If microtransactions are non-predatory, are genuinely optional (don't create an unreasonable grind) and are used as game 'short-cuts' that fund ongoing free content, then I'm not troubled by those out of a point principle. In those games the multiplayer was something additional to the core of the game, which was single player. That's not true in Anthem, which changes things a bit. As the core game will be different, those who want a traditional single-player experience may not want to play at all. Those who are already accustomed to multiplayer may be more forgiving of such an economy implemented well. I'm not defending predatory economies, but I don't find the view that they cannot exist under any circumstances to be very practical.
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Post by Sartoz on Jan 20, 2018 19:51:03 GMT
Before SWBF2 disaster this would've been acceptable but people's tolerance to EAs greed is at an all time low, I just cannot see gamers being cool about any microtransaction in an EA game now. For some that may be true, but I see no logic in something being acceptable before but not now. SnipIf microtransactions are non-predatory, are genuinely optional (don't create an unreasonable grind) and are used as game 'short-cuts' that fund ongoing free content, then I'm not troubled by those out of a point principle. -(_ANTHEM_)-
Hmm... agreed. But we are talking about EA with their recent BF2, Need for Speed and UFC.... all with predatory and aggressive mechanics. A clear move to ratchet up MT income. This is a clear pattern and with Bio's Anthem next in the development conveyor belt the logical conclusion is obvious.
At this point it's EA and Bio to prove otherwise. Mind, I admit Bio's past MT implementations have been rather benign in comparison. Yet, I can't help but think that in some fashion, EA needs continuous income to finance the ongoing 10-year live service model. A timid MT design won't cut it. With D2 players leaving because the game got "stale" adds additional pressure on Bio to somehow be more creative and keep players.... a difficult task when players complete the initial maps quickly.
Slowing the speed of progression is a two-edged sword, as Bungie is finding out.
I'm about to play WARFRAME. I think it will give me an appreciation of what to expect with Anthem with (hopefully) a benign LB/MT implementation. 🌸
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 20, 2018 20:38:56 GMT
At this point it's EA and Bio to prove otherwise. Yes, absolutely it is down to them to prove it. And yes, it's a really difficult balance to get right. I don't see it being either 'no microtransactions' (because the numbers won't add up), nor BFII style microtransactions (as most players won't countenance it). I don't see it being possible for everyone to be happy, and those that aren't will be noisy. It's going to be a game development and a marketing challenge.
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