Wynne thread - "Stop... talking about my bosom"

Deep-down?My love for our dear Wynne is pretty much above surface

It's been said many times,but yes,she is indeed the cool grandma we all want!

I think i've posted this in another thread,but i always find it alienating when she refers to me as "friend".
Friend?But...aren't you my grandma?

Wynne? That old lady that lets you get away with sacrificing people with blood magic but tries to kill you over some ashes on a pot?

Yeahh... not my favourite one. Sadly, she is too useful to pass up, so I put up with the preaching.

shame of a character, we will never get a chance to visit her tomb.

Cassandra is 40 by trespasser?
WTF? I always thought she was 30ish by that timeframe, the DA timecount is weird

Timeline is a mess, indeed, but Cassandra is around her 40 at Trespasser.
Here is a list of characters age.

There's some banter in Origins between Leliana and Wynne where she comments that Leliana is perhaps 30 years younger than her, only for Leliana to reply that she thinks she looks younger than she actually is.

If Leliana was around 26 in Origins and Wynne about 50, that fits with those dates rather nicely, with Wynne mistaking Leliana was in her late teens, rather than mid-twenties. As most people do enter the Chantry at a young age or in their teens (Nathaniel, Cullen and Alistair etc), it's not an unreasonable conclusion to draw, to think that she was only around 16 when she entered the Chantry, rather than 23.

Don't think I've ever played a Warden who didn't get at least some useful advice or confidence out of her sermons. Her banter with both Zevran and Loghain is very amusing as well.

Have been trying to rely less on her in these last few playthroughs though, as I think the game feels darker and more visceral without a Spirit Healer making the party nigh-immortal. And I like Morrigan and her Entropy spells better. What with Wynne's age, it's pretty easy to justify letting her stay back at camp or at an inn to rest her weary bones while the party heads into the Deep Roads or climbs the Frostbacks. Or just to baby Alistair while the PC goes out to avoid both remaining Grey Wardens getting killed or captured at the same time.

I'm always a little uncomfortable with her dirty stories too, considering the environment in which she's spent her life. I keep getting this sense of her having "earned the Templars' trust" by sleeping around a lot, and then growing old and preaching to younger novices about accepting their lot and seeking advancement through good behavior and obedience without realizing that she only had it easy because all the important templars had, uh, fond memories of her, and not everyone can or wants to go that route. Which would be a pretty sick little insight into the culture of the Circle towers.



There's also the simple question of lifestyle. Loghain is a nobleman and a warrior who keeps his skills sharp, eats well and presumably exercises regularly, keeping himself strong. I can easily see someone living their life in a dank tower that must smell like a college dorm with no natural light poring over books all day while being actively discouraged from exercising or training their body ending up comparatively frail and feeble and vulnerable to their advancing age. In reality, a 50-yearold man can be a stooped wreck or a regular Adonis depending on how he's lived his life.

One might also imagine that mages have a tendency to smooth over physical discomforts like aches and fatigue and disease with healing and rejuvenation spells rather than by changing their behavior and addressing the causes like everyone else has to, and their physical health just doesn't really get to develop normally because they fundamentally don't learn to take care of themselves?

Of course, you could say that a trained healer would obviously realize if they were sabotaging their own health like that. But both Wynne and Anders have a clear tendency towards recklessness with their own bodies when they think something more important is at stake. I can totally see Wynne spending whole nights working in the infirmary without eating or sleeping properly, relying on spells to keep herself energetic and alert. There's no way that wouldn't take its toll on her body.